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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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"Trump gave away 60 foul points while trying to escape from a snooker": maybe this is the way it is phrased, but wouldn't this have to be "from a series of snookers"? And this sounds unusual enough to be worth maybe a sentence of description.
"Matches involving the top four seeds and the two wild card players were held over and played at the main venue": who were those four seeds and the two wild cards? I see there's no (1) or (3) seed in the main draw; is that because they lost in qualifying?
Not quite, it's mentioned a few times, but Robertson and Selby (who would have been first and third) withdrew from the tournament. They were both replaced in the qualifying draw by amateur players. The two local wildcards were both whitewashed (predictably) 5-0 in qualifying, so I didn't deem it notable to mention. Lee Vilenski(
talk •
contribs) 19:03, 10 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Well, if we're going to mention the wild cards at all it seems easy enough to name them, and the fact that they were local adds a touch of colour -- perhaps "...and the two wild cards, local Turkish players Ismail Türker and Enes Bakırcı, were held over..."? For the seeds, I should have realized that the two withdrawals were the reason there was no (1) or (3) seed, but that still doesn't tell me who the four seeds who played in Turkey were. So then I guessed it must be seeds 2/4/5/6, but looking at the four other qualifying matches with an "[nb 1]" against them that doesn't seem right either -- Trump is one of them, and Wilson, but Boiko/Blackwell and Pinhey/Yize don't involve a top seed.
Mike Christie (
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Yeah, I can add something on that. I think there is a small understanding - it wasn't the top four seeds who had their matches postponed, it was the matches that were drawn with those players which were played at the main venue. So, Selby's match was held-over, but was replaced by Pinhay. Lee Vilenski(
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contribs) 19:56, 10 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Earwig reveals no issues. Spotchecks:
FN 30 cites "Trump took a 5–3 lead over Selt in the afternoon session of the final. In the first frame of the evening session, Trump gave away 60 foul points while trying to escape from a series of snookers, but won the frame with an 88 clearance. The players scored a combined 189 points in the frame, just three short of the all-time professional record of 192 set by Peter Lines and Dominic Dale in 2012." Verified.
FN 23 cites "In the round of 16, Graeme Dott defeated Higgins in a deciding frame. Ding also defeated Si in a decider, making breaks of 64, 93, 73, 127, 105, and 97 to reach his first ranking quarter-final since the 2021 German Masters. Selt defeated Thepchaiya Un-Nooh 5–1, making breaks of 72, 80, and 61." Verified.
FN 4 cites "following the Welsh Open and preceding the Gibraltar Open": verified.
Lee, I know you've been busy, so this is just a reminder so this doesn't drop off your to-do list.
Mike Christie (
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contribs -
library) 10:35, 17 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Hi Mike - I did add something similar to the only outstanding point. Did you have anything else that needs addressing? Lee Vilenski(
talk •
contribs) 11:14, 17 September 2022 (UTC)reply
I think we should explain "Matches involving the top four seeds" a bit more clearly -- I wasn't able to figure it out, as you saw above, so I think other readers will have the same problem. Some version of the explanation you gave me above would work.
Mike Christie (
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library) 11:18, 17 September 2022 (UTC)reply
A fact from 2022 Turkish Masters appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 27 March 2022 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Cue sports, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
pool,
carom billiards and other
cue sports on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Cue sportsWikipedia:WikiProject Cue sportsTemplate:WikiProject Cue sportscue sports articles
Internal pages: Something like:
[2][3]). Such pages are not fluff, but can be good places to find recruits for the project, possibly including subject-matter experts, especially if cross-referenced to the project. Also,
Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Cue sports (cf.
[4][5][6]).
Create timelines, both textual and graphical. See link for various guidelines and examples. We need an overall one for cue sports generally, and more specific ones as we drill down into more specific topics (timeline of
nine-ball, timeline of
Willie Mosconi's career, etc.).
Form sections:
Exhibition game needs section on cue sports; could later form a new article with "Main article..." xref to it. What other general articles need cue sports sections?
Images: improve articles with images from commons; create pics and add them to commons as GFDL/CC-by/PD.
Add: {{Sport overview}} to main articles of cue games that are real sports; medal table tags where they apply (see
Ding Junhui for example).
Insert: Cue sports events (tournament results, etc.) into the "year in sports" categories (e.g.
1965 in sports), using {{subst:
Cue sports heading}} if that year doesn't have one yet.
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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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The result was: promoted by
SL93 (
talk) 18:54, 20 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Images are appropriately licensed; sources are reliable.
"Trump gave away 60 foul points while trying to escape from a snooker": maybe this is the way it is phrased, but wouldn't this have to be "from a series of snookers"? And this sounds unusual enough to be worth maybe a sentence of description.
"Matches involving the top four seeds and the two wild card players were held over and played at the main venue": who were those four seeds and the two wild cards? I see there's no (1) or (3) seed in the main draw; is that because they lost in qualifying?
Not quite, it's mentioned a few times, but Robertson and Selby (who would have been first and third) withdrew from the tournament. They were both replaced in the qualifying draw by amateur players. The two local wildcards were both whitewashed (predictably) 5-0 in qualifying, so I didn't deem it notable to mention. Lee Vilenski(
talk •
contribs) 19:03, 10 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Well, if we're going to mention the wild cards at all it seems easy enough to name them, and the fact that they were local adds a touch of colour -- perhaps "...and the two wild cards, local Turkish players Ismail Türker and Enes Bakırcı, were held over..."? For the seeds, I should have realized that the two withdrawals were the reason there was no (1) or (3) seed, but that still doesn't tell me who the four seeds who played in Turkey were. So then I guessed it must be seeds 2/4/5/6, but looking at the four other qualifying matches with an "[nb 1]" against them that doesn't seem right either -- Trump is one of them, and Wilson, but Boiko/Blackwell and Pinhey/Yize don't involve a top seed.
Mike Christie (
talk -
contribs -
library) 19:27, 10 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Yeah, I can add something on that. I think there is a small understanding - it wasn't the top four seeds who had their matches postponed, it was the matches that were drawn with those players which were played at the main venue. So, Selby's match was held-over, but was replaced by Pinhay. Lee Vilenski(
talk •
contribs) 19:56, 10 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Earwig reveals no issues. Spotchecks:
FN 30 cites "Trump took a 5–3 lead over Selt in the afternoon session of the final. In the first frame of the evening session, Trump gave away 60 foul points while trying to escape from a series of snookers, but won the frame with an 88 clearance. The players scored a combined 189 points in the frame, just three short of the all-time professional record of 192 set by Peter Lines and Dominic Dale in 2012." Verified.
FN 23 cites "In the round of 16, Graeme Dott defeated Higgins in a deciding frame. Ding also defeated Si in a decider, making breaks of 64, 93, 73, 127, 105, and 97 to reach his first ranking quarter-final since the 2021 German Masters. Selt defeated Thepchaiya Un-Nooh 5–1, making breaks of 72, 80, and 61." Verified.
FN 4 cites "following the Welsh Open and preceding the Gibraltar Open": verified.
Lee, I know you've been busy, so this is just a reminder so this doesn't drop off your to-do list.
Mike Christie (
talk -
contribs -
library) 10:35, 17 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Hi Mike - I did add something similar to the only outstanding point. Did you have anything else that needs addressing? Lee Vilenski(
talk •
contribs) 11:14, 17 September 2022 (UTC)reply
I think we should explain "Matches involving the top four seeds" a bit more clearly -- I wasn't able to figure it out, as you saw above, so I think other readers will have the same problem. Some version of the explanation you gave me above would work.
Mike Christie (
talk -
contribs -
library) 11:18, 17 September 2022 (UTC)reply