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The section comments on reaction to the length, and the need to waive restrictions, without explicitly saying what the length was and what figures exceeded the restrictions. The info may be available in infobox etc, but would be useful in this section.
PamD08:06, 28 July 2022 (UTC)reply
@
PamD - is this what you mean: "Women's WorldTour races have a maximum stage length of 160 kilometres (99 mi) and a maximum race length of six days"?
Kiwipete (
talk)
09:16, 28 July 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Kiwipete: That and "The overall length of the event was also met with agreement, with some teams noting that they do not "yet have the staff or numbers ... for a three-week event."" - so how long, in distance and days, is this race?
PamD09:19, 28 July 2022 (UTC)reply
Thanks, looks good: I've made one more addition, to provide context for the comment about restriction on stage length (or it could go into that later sentence if you think it makes its current place too cluttered).
PamD13:27, 28 July 2022 (UTC)reply
Finishing up this article
I'll have a go at finishing the race summary later, I think we need a few photos (I think there's one of van Vlueten in the yellow jersey), and I hope there's some references about the event being successful etc.
Turini2 (
talk)
15:58, 1 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Many thanks
Turini2, as I mentioned on the WP Cycling page a lot of the holdup was just getting the account of the race and citing all tables in order and not on the newsworthiness of the article. Let's push to get these done during the race next year for the sake of alacrity.
Omnifalcon (
talk)
15:08, 2 August 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Grnrchst I think that's done - but I might need to do a final run through tomorrow if that's okay - to make sure I haven't missed anything. Take a look at my comments below :)
Turini2 (
talk)
20:37, 11 June 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Turini2: Aye you seem to have addressed everything quite nicely! Thanks for taking the time and being so thorough. Let me know when you've done your final run through and I can pass this. :) Nice work. --
Grnrchst (
talk)
08:09, 12 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Is there any reason that the three best UCI continental teams are specified by name, but none of the other teams are? Consider removing for consistency.
Replace the dash "–" after continental teams with a colon ":".
Maybe move the announcement date of the teams to the beginning? It reads weird to say they were announced after already listing the teams.
Copy edit the final sentence. Something like "At the start of the race, there were 144 riders of 25 different nationalities, the largest percentage of whom were Dutch (20% of the peloton)." or something similar.
1 - To show the three teams that were automatically invited, compared to the teams that were invited by the organiser.
I think you could just say "eight consecutive days of racing" instead of including the bracketed detail about the lack of a rest day.
"(including the longest, stage 5, of 175.6 km (109.1 mi))" I don't think you need to specify the exact length of the stage, given that's already in the table below. Just mentioning it's the longest one is fine.
"The route was welcomed [...]" Why? It doesn't say.
"The overall length of the event was also met with agreement" Cited source says that there was initial disagreement over the length, but that's not mentioned.
It's worth mentioning why the restrictions were criticised as sexist, rather than just saying that they were. Their reasoning that "UCI and ASO still uphold the belief that women cannot complete the same distance as men, and are therefore regulated to shorter distances" is an important detail.
1-2 actioned
3 actioned - slight expansion
4 - My read of that is disappointment that the race isn't three weeks (like the men's race) - and it would be a bit too much info to include.
"final stage of the men's Tour" this was already mentioned in the previous section. Remove one of them, in order to cut down on repetition.
Try to be consistent about language used. This sentence switches between "maillot jaune" and "yellow jersey" without explicitly linking the two. I'd say either use one or the other (preferably the English language version), or at least clarify that "maillot jaune" is French for "yellow jersey". (I'll note "green jersey" is used uniformly)
"rolling terrain" what does this mean?
Move the abbreviation "(GC)" up to the first use of "general classification".
"QOM classification" Needs to be clarified what this classification is, along with "general" and "points". Also worth linking to
Mountains classification in the Tour de France, as per above.
No need to mention "chemin blanc", as it's not used elsewhere in the article. "Gravel" is uniformly used.
"other mechanicals" Is this maybe supposed to say "other mechanical problems" or "other mechanical issues"?
"after a mechanical" Does this mean she was repairing her bike?
"having to abandon" Should this say "having to abandon the race" or something similar?
1 - I think both are useful, if that's okay?
2 - This is common in the Tour de France articles, but I'll clarify
3 - uh, undulating - constantly up and down over gentle slopes? There's no wikipedia article, it's just a geographical description.
4 - done
5 - done
6 - more french language creeping in, as in common with this race. Have amended.
7-8 - "Mechanical - An issue with the bike, which can result in rider abandoning the race if the issue isn't fixed. When a rider throws/drops his or her chain or has their seatpost loosen they have suffered 'a mechanical'." Do I need to reference to the glossary of cycling terms?
Yes, I think referencing the glossary of cycling terms would be best practice. It's just a way to clarify the specialist language for casual readers. Thanks for looking at this. --
Grnrchst (
talk)
08:07, 12 June 2023 (UTC)reply
GA review (see
here for what the criteria are, and
here for what they are not)
Very well made article that I learnt a lot from and enjoyed reading. Seems like most of the issues I have come from unclear specialist language, but these could be fixed with some minor clarifications or wikilinks.
It is reasonably well written.
a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):
Some prose issues here and there, mostly involving clarity, but nothing a little minor clarifications and copy-editing can't fix.
Some of the references (e.g. [7] The Guardian (14 October 2021), etc.) are incomplete, either not referencing the author's name or the date of publication. Double check that the references are all fully cited.
The discussion took place on my talk page, thanks to @
Turini2 for opening it immediately after reverting me. I have explained the grammar rule that should be followed, but just in case you don't want to click through to my talk page, I suggest you take a look at
tussenvoegsel. The relevant passage reads "the tussenvoegsel in a surname is written with a capital letter only when it starts a sentence or is not preceded by a first name or initial". Hope that helps. –
PeeJay23:07, 17 July 2023 (UTC)reply
@
47.149.117.55 Hello, the organisers ASO have referred to this event as the "first Tour de France Femmes" - so that's why the article says that. The article also links to
Grande Boucle Féminine Internationale - which has information on the variety of similar events (some with Tour de France Feminin names) that were run in the 1980s.
Turini2 (
talk)
07:32, 18 July 2023 (UTC)reply
In reply to this - I've added a reference of ASO calling the event "The 1st edition of the Tour de France Femmes avec Zwift"
Turini2 (
talk)
20:44, 19 July 2023 (UTC)reply
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Cleanup : *
Sport governing body (this should-be-major article is in a shameful state) *
Field hockey (History section needs sources and accurate information - very vague at the moment.) * Standardize
Category:American college sports infobox templates to use same font size and spacing. *
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The section comments on reaction to the length, and the need to waive restrictions, without explicitly saying what the length was and what figures exceeded the restrictions. The info may be available in infobox etc, but would be useful in this section.
PamD08:06, 28 July 2022 (UTC)reply
@
PamD - is this what you mean: "Women's WorldTour races have a maximum stage length of 160 kilometres (99 mi) and a maximum race length of six days"?
Kiwipete (
talk)
09:16, 28 July 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Kiwipete: That and "The overall length of the event was also met with agreement, with some teams noting that they do not "yet have the staff or numbers ... for a three-week event."" - so how long, in distance and days, is this race?
PamD09:19, 28 July 2022 (UTC)reply
Thanks, looks good: I've made one more addition, to provide context for the comment about restriction on stage length (or it could go into that later sentence if you think it makes its current place too cluttered).
PamD13:27, 28 July 2022 (UTC)reply
Finishing up this article
I'll have a go at finishing the race summary later, I think we need a few photos (I think there's one of van Vlueten in the yellow jersey), and I hope there's some references about the event being successful etc.
Turini2 (
talk)
15:58, 1 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Many thanks
Turini2, as I mentioned on the WP Cycling page a lot of the holdup was just getting the account of the race and citing all tables in order and not on the newsworthiness of the article. Let's push to get these done during the race next year for the sake of alacrity.
Omnifalcon (
talk)
15:08, 2 August 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Grnrchst I think that's done - but I might need to do a final run through tomorrow if that's okay - to make sure I haven't missed anything. Take a look at my comments below :)
Turini2 (
talk)
20:37, 11 June 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Turini2: Aye you seem to have addressed everything quite nicely! Thanks for taking the time and being so thorough. Let me know when you've done your final run through and I can pass this. :) Nice work. --
Grnrchst (
talk)
08:09, 12 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Is there any reason that the three best UCI continental teams are specified by name, but none of the other teams are? Consider removing for consistency.
Replace the dash "–" after continental teams with a colon ":".
Maybe move the announcement date of the teams to the beginning? It reads weird to say they were announced after already listing the teams.
Copy edit the final sentence. Something like "At the start of the race, there were 144 riders of 25 different nationalities, the largest percentage of whom were Dutch (20% of the peloton)." or something similar.
1 - To show the three teams that were automatically invited, compared to the teams that were invited by the organiser.
I think you could just say "eight consecutive days of racing" instead of including the bracketed detail about the lack of a rest day.
"(including the longest, stage 5, of 175.6 km (109.1 mi))" I don't think you need to specify the exact length of the stage, given that's already in the table below. Just mentioning it's the longest one is fine.
"The route was welcomed [...]" Why? It doesn't say.
"The overall length of the event was also met with agreement" Cited source says that there was initial disagreement over the length, but that's not mentioned.
It's worth mentioning why the restrictions were criticised as sexist, rather than just saying that they were. Their reasoning that "UCI and ASO still uphold the belief that women cannot complete the same distance as men, and are therefore regulated to shorter distances" is an important detail.
1-2 actioned
3 actioned - slight expansion
4 - My read of that is disappointment that the race isn't three weeks (like the men's race) - and it would be a bit too much info to include.
"final stage of the men's Tour" this was already mentioned in the previous section. Remove one of them, in order to cut down on repetition.
Try to be consistent about language used. This sentence switches between "maillot jaune" and "yellow jersey" without explicitly linking the two. I'd say either use one or the other (preferably the English language version), or at least clarify that "maillot jaune" is French for "yellow jersey". (I'll note "green jersey" is used uniformly)
"rolling terrain" what does this mean?
Move the abbreviation "(GC)" up to the first use of "general classification".
"QOM classification" Needs to be clarified what this classification is, along with "general" and "points". Also worth linking to
Mountains classification in the Tour de France, as per above.
No need to mention "chemin blanc", as it's not used elsewhere in the article. "Gravel" is uniformly used.
"other mechanicals" Is this maybe supposed to say "other mechanical problems" or "other mechanical issues"?
"after a mechanical" Does this mean she was repairing her bike?
"having to abandon" Should this say "having to abandon the race" or something similar?
1 - I think both are useful, if that's okay?
2 - This is common in the Tour de France articles, but I'll clarify
3 - uh, undulating - constantly up and down over gentle slopes? There's no wikipedia article, it's just a geographical description.
4 - done
5 - done
6 - more french language creeping in, as in common with this race. Have amended.
7-8 - "Mechanical - An issue with the bike, which can result in rider abandoning the race if the issue isn't fixed. When a rider throws/drops his or her chain or has their seatpost loosen they have suffered 'a mechanical'." Do I need to reference to the glossary of cycling terms?
Yes, I think referencing the glossary of cycling terms would be best practice. It's just a way to clarify the specialist language for casual readers. Thanks for looking at this. --
Grnrchst (
talk)
08:07, 12 June 2023 (UTC)reply
GA review (see
here for what the criteria are, and
here for what they are not)
Very well made article that I learnt a lot from and enjoyed reading. Seems like most of the issues I have come from unclear specialist language, but these could be fixed with some minor clarifications or wikilinks.
It is reasonably well written.
a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):
Some prose issues here and there, mostly involving clarity, but nothing a little minor clarifications and copy-editing can't fix.
Some of the references (e.g. [7] The Guardian (14 October 2021), etc.) are incomplete, either not referencing the author's name or the date of publication. Double check that the references are all fully cited.
The discussion took place on my talk page, thanks to @
Turini2 for opening it immediately after reverting me. I have explained the grammar rule that should be followed, but just in case you don't want to click through to my talk page, I suggest you take a look at
tussenvoegsel. The relevant passage reads "the tussenvoegsel in a surname is written with a capital letter only when it starts a sentence or is not preceded by a first name or initial". Hope that helps. –
PeeJay23:07, 17 July 2023 (UTC)reply
@
47.149.117.55 Hello, the organisers ASO have referred to this event as the "first Tour de France Femmes" - so that's why the article says that. The article also links to
Grande Boucle Féminine Internationale - which has information on the variety of similar events (some with Tour de France Feminin names) that were run in the 1980s.
Turini2 (
talk)
07:32, 18 July 2023 (UTC)reply
In reply to this - I've added a reference of ASO calling the event "The 1st edition of the Tour de France Femmes avec Zwift"
Turini2 (
talk)
20:44, 19 July 2023 (UTC)reply
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