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Isn't it jumping the gun to assume that this election will happen in 2021? The Parliament website says "A new Writ is usually issued within three months of the vacancy. There have been a few times when seats remained vacant longer than six months." In other words, it's possible the election could be next year. It might be better to change the name to "upcoming". In linking this page to other articles I've titled the link "future election" or similar to avoid making assumptions. Blythwood ( talk) 00:22, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
Should an election that doesnt even have a date yet get an article the same day the incumbent dies, esp when he gets killed? The entire article is conjecture, contains no information and to me appears in bad taste. jonas ( talk) 01:55, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved. ( non-admin closure) Adumbrativus ( talk) 01:54, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
2021 Southend West by-election → Future Southend West by-election – Unknown whether the by-election will be in 2021 or 2022. No source says it will be in 2021 and it could easily be in 2022 judging by past by-elections. Prior discussion at the top of this Talk page and on an AfD mostly supported a move. Same reasoning applies to 2021 Old Bexley and Sidcup by-election. I made the move, but it was reverted by PatGallacher who suggested a more formal process. Bondegezou ( talk) 21:36, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
Just as some self-reflection, it does now appear that this by-election will be in 2022, so we were right to be cautious, although the Bexley by-election is in 2021, as is the North Shropshire by-election that was triggered by later events (the politics of that election meant the Conservatives wanted a quick election). Bondegezou ( talk) 10:46, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
You wanna edit check, go ahead. There is still a candidate, no matter how much you want to trim. The newspaper, Southend Echo is part of Newsquest, part of Gannett, so if you want to say their journalist didn't publish rival "libdem and conservative" wikipedia hackers 'erased' candidates, go right ahead. Good or bad, it's what the press say. Enjoy putting it back — Preceding unsigned comment added by KingJames80pc ( talk • contribs) 03:51, 11 January 2022 (UTC) Why don't you check the links, and talk here first. Maybe we can agree some text. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KingJames80pc ( talk • contribs) 03:53, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
Here's main article link.. https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/19828306.southend-west-election-standing-sir-david-amesss-seat/?cmpid=cmt
4 minutes for you all to complete, or let me finish what I was editing, with references... — Preceding unsigned comment added by KingJames80pc ( talk • contribs) 04:37, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
Is the Catherine Blaiklock standing for the English Democrats the Catherine Blaiklock who co-founded The Brexit Party? I presume so, but…? Bondegezou ( talk) 20:15, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
Although the candidate literature in favour of Fransen told people to spoil the ballot. Would be helpful if anyone with knowledge of politics could alter the hatnote with a ref confirming she is indeed on the ballot (unless her name was included there by accident.)-- Phil of rel ( talk) 09:15, 3 February 2022 (UTC) Edit: it appears she's standing as an independent candidate, however.-- Phil of rel ( talk) 09:17, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
I cant edit the article because it is semi-protected. But, total votes have been published at: https://www.southend.gov.uk/elections-registering-vote/election-results-1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by LGHend ( talk • contribs) 01:56, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
The comment in Analysis that it was the lowest turnout since WW2 is inaccurate. The linked BBC article says 'one of the lowest'. Manchester Central, 2012, for example, was lower. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.59.100.28 ( talk) 09:47, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
This morning I heard on radio news there had been a 'record' number of spoilt ballot papers, with some bearing handwritten anti-Boris Johnson messages. Worth mentioning once it is in the published news. Cloptonson ( talk) 07:10, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi, Bondegezou I think it’s better if we return to the wording before you changed it here - https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=2022_Southend_West_by-election&diff=1069845043&oldid=1069843646 . There's no harm in being specific and I think this version better complies with WP:SYNTH. The Sky News report does specifically say "reportedly" and I noted the source because this is the only source I could find coming up with this statement. Having the BBC claim in there helps bolster this as well and doesn't detract from it in my view. Helper201 ( talk) 11:17, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
I'm not sure about this snippet "of which it commented "even the fairly harmless sounding Psychedelic Movement has a nasty edge"". The policy itself is worth including, but the HNH editorial on it seems WP:UNDUE to me. Jdcooper ( talk) 14:08, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
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Isn't it jumping the gun to assume that this election will happen in 2021? The Parliament website says "A new Writ is usually issued within three months of the vacancy. There have been a few times when seats remained vacant longer than six months." In other words, it's possible the election could be next year. It might be better to change the name to "upcoming". In linking this page to other articles I've titled the link "future election" or similar to avoid making assumptions. Blythwood ( talk) 00:22, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
Should an election that doesnt even have a date yet get an article the same day the incumbent dies, esp when he gets killed? The entire article is conjecture, contains no information and to me appears in bad taste. jonas ( talk) 01:55, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved. ( non-admin closure) Adumbrativus ( talk) 01:54, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
2021 Southend West by-election → Future Southend West by-election – Unknown whether the by-election will be in 2021 or 2022. No source says it will be in 2021 and it could easily be in 2022 judging by past by-elections. Prior discussion at the top of this Talk page and on an AfD mostly supported a move. Same reasoning applies to 2021 Old Bexley and Sidcup by-election. I made the move, but it was reverted by PatGallacher who suggested a more formal process. Bondegezou ( talk) 21:36, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
Just as some self-reflection, it does now appear that this by-election will be in 2022, so we were right to be cautious, although the Bexley by-election is in 2021, as is the North Shropshire by-election that was triggered by later events (the politics of that election meant the Conservatives wanted a quick election). Bondegezou ( talk) 10:46, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
You wanna edit check, go ahead. There is still a candidate, no matter how much you want to trim. The newspaper, Southend Echo is part of Newsquest, part of Gannett, so if you want to say their journalist didn't publish rival "libdem and conservative" wikipedia hackers 'erased' candidates, go right ahead. Good or bad, it's what the press say. Enjoy putting it back — Preceding unsigned comment added by KingJames80pc ( talk • contribs) 03:51, 11 January 2022 (UTC) Why don't you check the links, and talk here first. Maybe we can agree some text. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KingJames80pc ( talk • contribs) 03:53, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
Here's main article link.. https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/19828306.southend-west-election-standing-sir-david-amesss-seat/?cmpid=cmt
4 minutes for you all to complete, or let me finish what I was editing, with references... — Preceding unsigned comment added by KingJames80pc ( talk • contribs) 04:37, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
Is the Catherine Blaiklock standing for the English Democrats the Catherine Blaiklock who co-founded The Brexit Party? I presume so, but…? Bondegezou ( talk) 20:15, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
Although the candidate literature in favour of Fransen told people to spoil the ballot. Would be helpful if anyone with knowledge of politics could alter the hatnote with a ref confirming she is indeed on the ballot (unless her name was included there by accident.)-- Phil of rel ( talk) 09:15, 3 February 2022 (UTC) Edit: it appears she's standing as an independent candidate, however.-- Phil of rel ( talk) 09:17, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
I cant edit the article because it is semi-protected. But, total votes have been published at: https://www.southend.gov.uk/elections-registering-vote/election-results-1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by LGHend ( talk • contribs) 01:56, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
The comment in Analysis that it was the lowest turnout since WW2 is inaccurate. The linked BBC article says 'one of the lowest'. Manchester Central, 2012, for example, was lower. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.59.100.28 ( talk) 09:47, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
This morning I heard on radio news there had been a 'record' number of spoilt ballot papers, with some bearing handwritten anti-Boris Johnson messages. Worth mentioning once it is in the published news. Cloptonson ( talk) 07:10, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi, Bondegezou I think it’s better if we return to the wording before you changed it here - https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=2022_Southend_West_by-election&diff=1069845043&oldid=1069843646 . There's no harm in being specific and I think this version better complies with WP:SYNTH. The Sky News report does specifically say "reportedly" and I noted the source because this is the only source I could find coming up with this statement. Having the BBC claim in there helps bolster this as well and doesn't detract from it in my view. Helper201 ( talk) 11:17, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
I'm not sure about this snippet "of which it commented "even the fairly harmless sounding Psychedelic Movement has a nasty edge"". The policy itself is worth including, but the HNH editorial on it seems WP:UNDUE to me. Jdcooper ( talk) 14:08, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
The redirect
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Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 17 § English Constitution Party until a consensus is reached.
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