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The article is without doubt is based on the Armenian POV. I will take the liberty of adding the template myself. Also, the lead section mentions Azerbaijani missile and cluster bomb attack on the city, but the body of the article on mentions aerial strikes and shelling. So, will change the lead accordingly. --► Sincerely: Sola Virum 21:45, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
De jure is not a correct term, considered is more accurate, Wikipedia is not a lawyer to choose what is legal or not. Hemşinli çocuk 00:15, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
Does anyone have accurate number of total deaths and injured and can provide sources reporting on this? So far the provided sources total up to one dead and 16+ injured. Once article says dozens inured, so it is not clear how many that is. Expertwikiguy ( talk) 08:12, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
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Maidyouneed I rephrased the statement you added to the article. Multiple high quality sources confirms that it wasnot Stalin, but Kavbiuro who decided to KEEP Nagorno-Karabakh withing Azerbaijan. Not transfer it to Azerbaijan, but keep it. I referenced all of the sources into the article. The fictions of the minority that Stalin took away Karabakh and gave it to Azerbaijan will not work. Especially considering that even the very decision to leave Karabakh as part of Azerbaijan clearly says what's what. [1] Abrvagl ( talk) 19:54, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
The matter of Karabakh was discussed in the first half of 1921, by the Kavburo. An agreement seems to have been reached on Karabakh in Armenia's favour on 12 June 1921, with the assent of Baku. However, some weeks later the Kavburo was still discussing the future of the territory, which had apparently not been resolved in June. It was proving a contentious issue. There were two more meetings on 4-5 July. Stalin was present at both of them. On 4 July, discussion centred on whether to treat all of Karabakh as a unit, or to treat the mountainous part as separate from lowland Karabakh. The latter option was eventually chosen, and the meeting decided to include mountainous Karabakh in Armenia, and to carry out a plebiscite there. (Those in favour of this resolution included G.K. Ordzhonikidze, A.Miasnikian, Yu. P.Figatner, S.M.Kirov and A.M. Nazaretian; Narimanov opposed, and so, apparently, did Stalin.) The matter was raised again the next day with Ordzhonikidze and Nazaretian dissenting from the resolution agreed upon in the previous meeting, stressing the importance of reaching inter-ethnic peace. The earlier decision was overturned, and, citing the economic linkage between upper and lower Karabakh, the region was declared an autonomous region in Azerbaijan, with Shusha as its administrative capital.
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The article is without doubt is based on the Armenian POV. I will take the liberty of adding the template myself. Also, the lead section mentions Azerbaijani missile and cluster bomb attack on the city, but the body of the article on mentions aerial strikes and shelling. So, will change the lead accordingly. --► Sincerely: Sola Virum 21:45, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
De jure is not a correct term, considered is more accurate, Wikipedia is not a lawyer to choose what is legal or not. Hemşinli çocuk 00:15, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
Does anyone have accurate number of total deaths and injured and can provide sources reporting on this? So far the provided sources total up to one dead and 16+ injured. Once article says dozens inured, so it is not clear how many that is. Expertwikiguy ( talk) 08:12, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
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Maidyouneed I rephrased the statement you added to the article. Multiple high quality sources confirms that it wasnot Stalin, but Kavbiuro who decided to KEEP Nagorno-Karabakh withing Azerbaijan. Not transfer it to Azerbaijan, but keep it. I referenced all of the sources into the article. The fictions of the minority that Stalin took away Karabakh and gave it to Azerbaijan will not work. Especially considering that even the very decision to leave Karabakh as part of Azerbaijan clearly says what's what. [1] Abrvagl ( talk) 19:54, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
The matter of Karabakh was discussed in the first half of 1921, by the Kavburo. An agreement seems to have been reached on Karabakh in Armenia's favour on 12 June 1921, with the assent of Baku. However, some weeks later the Kavburo was still discussing the future of the territory, which had apparently not been resolved in June. It was proving a contentious issue. There were two more meetings on 4-5 July. Stalin was present at both of them. On 4 July, discussion centred on whether to treat all of Karabakh as a unit, or to treat the mountainous part as separate from lowland Karabakh. The latter option was eventually chosen, and the meeting decided to include mountainous Karabakh in Armenia, and to carry out a plebiscite there. (Those in favour of this resolution included G.K. Ordzhonikidze, A.Miasnikian, Yu. P.Figatner, S.M.Kirov and A.M. Nazaretian; Narimanov opposed, and so, apparently, did Stalin.) The matter was raised again the next day with Ordzhonikidze and Nazaretian dissenting from the resolution agreed upon in the previous meeting, stressing the importance of reaching inter-ethnic peace. The earlier decision was overturned, and, citing the economic linkage between upper and lower Karabakh, the region was declared an autonomous region in Azerbaijan, with Shusha as its administrative capital.