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Support I propose the merger because I do not believe the article on Hienadz Shutau satisfies WP:BLP1E, but once Draft:Hienadz_Shutau is merged, would have sufficient information to be helpful to this article, possibly under the deaths section. Halfadaniel ( talk) 17:49, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: good start.
North8000 ( talk) 00:43, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
I am a bit concerned about the impartiality of the edit made by the 6-days-old account Itsmeant, some of which seem to be impartial, based on some vague interpretation of "vandalism" or just without clear context. See here and here. Any other thoughts? Ivario ( talk) 10:58, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
response to Ivario I'm not sure if you are concerned more about my edits or the date duration of my account? Anybody can start contributing since day 1 here. please be specific about vandalism. Itsmeant ( talk) 04:17, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
I believe Itsmeant has deleted on 1 August the internet polls conducted by government parties which showed a very different poll results to the non-government polls the reason give:- remove information about government sponsored polls as the cite was referred to the twitter url. Ânes-pur-sàng wiki 12:00, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
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There is a number of polls quoted in the article, but their validity is highly questionable. A poll is supposed to be conducted by randomly selecting respondents, yet the polls quoted are based on voluntary contributions, possibly of aggrieved Belarusians. I am not sure how much value can be attached to such polls. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.121.197.97 ( talk) 00:14, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
Nevermind, found the answer to my questions, here: http://www.rec.gov.by/sites/default/files/pdf/about_PRB_eng.pdf
So, to even begin the nomination process for president you must first have an initiative group of at least 100 persons, and this seems to be true for both party candidates and independent candidates without a political party. Then the Central Commission decides on your qualifications. If you make it past that step, then the next step is to collect at least 100,000 valid signatures. Seems like a pretty steep requirement for a country with the population of Belarus. In any case, I will try and add this information to either this article, the general article for the President of Belarus, or both. -- Criticalthinker ( talk) 07:14, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
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I see users insisting on keeping the infobox's ongoing parameter as "yes", even though the election has finished. I presume this is due to the disputed results, however the infobox should reflect the official results, even if they are falsified, and this is the case with other articles with disputed results and allegations of vote rigging (for example Venezuela's), including all the Belarusian presidential election articles. As the lead states, Lukashenko was re-elected for his 6th term, whether or not it was legitimate so it is misleading to give the idea that the election is not compete because it is. It also makes no sense to not show the official results but include the officially reported final turnout in the infobox, and also include the official results in the results section. If for some reason the election should be marked as ongoing, explain below please. Mellk ( talk) 10:48, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
And to add, if somehow the CEC declares the results to be annulled after declaring it to be legitimate, this can still be later reflected. For example with September 2018 Primorsky Krai gubernatorial election. Mellk ( talk) 10:59, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
Quite many users above completely misunderstand/misinterpret WP policies by claiming that the results are "official". That claim is relevant only if we consider Lukashenka's electoral commission WP:RS. That is a dubious claim, to say the least. WP is under no obligation whatsoever to consider the official count valid; quite the contrary, it takes a considerable stretch of WP policies to consider these results correct. The onus is on those who want to include them to construct an argument for them (and not just the nonsensical WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS argument repeated above. Jeppiz ( talk) 17:28, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
Hi there! I've posted an RfC on the Reliable Sources Noticeboard concerning the open-access based polls. Since these types of polls feature prominently on this page, I'm adding this here to inform other editors. If you wish to provide your opinion on the matter, you're free to do so as the discussion is still ongoing. It can be found in the RS noticeboard. Best regards, Goodposts ( talk) 23:39, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
Who is the President of Belarus now? Samogitia ( talk) 06:41, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
From last night's news broadcast, the situation in Belarus seems much more fraught than this article suggests. Is this because Wikipedia is "Not News" or for some other reason? Thank you for your time, Wordreader ( talk) 16:15, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
It is starting to get a bit annoying with these POV-pushers who continue to violate all WP-policies to push their own agenda. The obvious NPOV here is that the results are disputed. Virtually all good reliable sources say the results are rigged. For WP to claim the falsified results are factual is both contrary to NPOV and RS. What is more, the same POV-pushers now even remove tags (in another breach of WP policies). The aim of these POV-pushers is clear: trying to create the illusion that the rigged results are somehow official. However, WP goes by sources, and as long as all RS describe the results as contested, that's what the article should say. Jeppiz ( talk) 21:59, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
The Official Website for the 2020 Elections is down, or at least non-accessible to me. Is there any way we can gain access to the officially published results? especially those at the lower levels? Kahlores ( talk) 02:06, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
Stop messing with the fact I added about how a candidate first registers. To register as a candidate, you have to first have an iniative group of 100 people. Then you must be cleared to collect the 100,000 signatures to be officially NOMINATED. The fact I added is clearly connected to the registration process. If you'd like to add the requirements for the nomination process further down that section, feel free. -- Criticalthinker ( talk) 03:31, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
More confusion on this page. In the opinion polls section, it literally says:
And the goes on to list a handful of internet polls by media outlets. Are internet polls banned or not? Were these polls done unlawfully? This needs explanation in the section if you're going to keep this line in the article. -- Criticalthinker ( talk) 12:47, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
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Support I propose the merger because I do not believe the article on Hienadz Shutau satisfies WP:BLP1E, but once Draft:Hienadz_Shutau is merged, would have sufficient information to be helpful to this article, possibly under the deaths section. Halfadaniel ( talk) 17:49, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: good start.
North8000 ( talk) 00:43, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
I am a bit concerned about the impartiality of the edit made by the 6-days-old account Itsmeant, some of which seem to be impartial, based on some vague interpretation of "vandalism" or just without clear context. See here and here. Any other thoughts? Ivario ( talk) 10:58, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
response to Ivario I'm not sure if you are concerned more about my edits or the date duration of my account? Anybody can start contributing since day 1 here. please be specific about vandalism. Itsmeant ( talk) 04:17, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
I believe Itsmeant has deleted on 1 August the internet polls conducted by government parties which showed a very different poll results to the non-government polls the reason give:- remove information about government sponsored polls as the cite was referred to the twitter url. Ânes-pur-sàng wiki 12:00, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for speedy deletion:
You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 21:08, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
There is a number of polls quoted in the article, but their validity is highly questionable. A poll is supposed to be conducted by randomly selecting respondents, yet the polls quoted are based on voluntary contributions, possibly of aggrieved Belarusians. I am not sure how much value can be attached to such polls. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.121.197.97 ( talk) 00:14, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
Nevermind, found the answer to my questions, here: http://www.rec.gov.by/sites/default/files/pdf/about_PRB_eng.pdf
So, to even begin the nomination process for president you must first have an initiative group of at least 100 persons, and this seems to be true for both party candidates and independent candidates without a political party. Then the Central Commission decides on your qualifications. If you make it past that step, then the next step is to collect at least 100,000 valid signatures. Seems like a pretty steep requirement for a country with the population of Belarus. In any case, I will try and add this information to either this article, the general article for the President of Belarus, or both. -- Criticalthinker ( talk) 07:14, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons files used on this page or its Wikidata item have been nominated for speedy deletion:
You can see the reasons for deletion at the file description pages linked above. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 07:53, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
I see users insisting on keeping the infobox's ongoing parameter as "yes", even though the election has finished. I presume this is due to the disputed results, however the infobox should reflect the official results, even if they are falsified, and this is the case with other articles with disputed results and allegations of vote rigging (for example Venezuela's), including all the Belarusian presidential election articles. As the lead states, Lukashenko was re-elected for his 6th term, whether or not it was legitimate so it is misleading to give the idea that the election is not compete because it is. It also makes no sense to not show the official results but include the officially reported final turnout in the infobox, and also include the official results in the results section. If for some reason the election should be marked as ongoing, explain below please. Mellk ( talk) 10:48, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
And to add, if somehow the CEC declares the results to be annulled after declaring it to be legitimate, this can still be later reflected. For example with September 2018 Primorsky Krai gubernatorial election. Mellk ( talk) 10:59, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
Quite many users above completely misunderstand/misinterpret WP policies by claiming that the results are "official". That claim is relevant only if we consider Lukashenka's electoral commission WP:RS. That is a dubious claim, to say the least. WP is under no obligation whatsoever to consider the official count valid; quite the contrary, it takes a considerable stretch of WP policies to consider these results correct. The onus is on those who want to include them to construct an argument for them (and not just the nonsensical WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS argument repeated above. Jeppiz ( talk) 17:28, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
Hi there! I've posted an RfC on the Reliable Sources Noticeboard concerning the open-access based polls. Since these types of polls feature prominently on this page, I'm adding this here to inform other editors. If you wish to provide your opinion on the matter, you're free to do so as the discussion is still ongoing. It can be found in the RS noticeboard. Best regards, Goodposts ( talk) 23:39, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
Who is the President of Belarus now? Samogitia ( talk) 06:41, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
From last night's news broadcast, the situation in Belarus seems much more fraught than this article suggests. Is this because Wikipedia is "Not News" or for some other reason? Thank you for your time, Wordreader ( talk) 16:15, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
It is starting to get a bit annoying with these POV-pushers who continue to violate all WP-policies to push their own agenda. The obvious NPOV here is that the results are disputed. Virtually all good reliable sources say the results are rigged. For WP to claim the falsified results are factual is both contrary to NPOV and RS. What is more, the same POV-pushers now even remove tags (in another breach of WP policies). The aim of these POV-pushers is clear: trying to create the illusion that the rigged results are somehow official. However, WP goes by sources, and as long as all RS describe the results as contested, that's what the article should say. Jeppiz ( talk) 21:59, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
The Official Website for the 2020 Elections is down, or at least non-accessible to me. Is there any way we can gain access to the officially published results? especially those at the lower levels? Kahlores ( talk) 02:06, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
Stop messing with the fact I added about how a candidate first registers. To register as a candidate, you have to first have an iniative group of 100 people. Then you must be cleared to collect the 100,000 signatures to be officially NOMINATED. The fact I added is clearly connected to the registration process. If you'd like to add the requirements for the nomination process further down that section, feel free. -- Criticalthinker ( talk) 03:31, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
More confusion on this page. In the opinion polls section, it literally says:
And the goes on to list a handful of internet polls by media outlets. Are internet polls banned or not? Were these polls done unlawfully? This needs explanation in the section if you're going to keep this line in the article. -- Criticalthinker ( talk) 12:47, 28 August 2020 (UTC)