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"All preceding awards articles should probably be moved also" How many are they? I am afraid they could turn out to be controversial and I'd have move them back if someone objects. What about putting one or two in a move discussion and seeing what people think? –
Ammarpad (
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05:34, 24 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment I haven't yet decided how I feel about this move. I need some information. Firstly, the guideline cited states that the requested version is used widely and is acceptable on wp. However it also says, "this gives a maybe undue focus to the year, rather than to the event" Is there any guideline which suggests the current form is better than the proposed form? If the move is passed, do we have a bot capable of preventing all the redirects from articles that have already used the current format (especially for the preceding years)? If the intention is to move all 34 pages in the series, should this be made explicit via a Requesting multiple page moves format?
shaidar cuebiyar (
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04:14, 25 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose I've received no clarification or response to my queries above. I'm not convinced that such a move is warranted, the guideline cited above does not address the issue of events ending in "... of {year}". Another possible system is seen at the Grammy Awards, e.g. 62nd Annual Grammy Awards. More locally we have the example of Triple J Hottest 100, 2019 which the guideline gives as an exception to using commas in article titles. Examples at other Australian award series include Logie Awards of 2019 and APRA Music Awards of 2020. The current ARIA Music Awards of 2020 fits these and is not described at the guideline quoted. It is not disallowed, so leave it as it is.
shaidar cuebiyar (
talk)
03:39, 1 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Support. And apply to all prior years too. This is the standard format for almost any kind of year-denominated event, and I don't see a strong reason to deviate here. See also
here for the RfC which decided on such a format for elections and referenda. —
Amakuru (
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13:25, 1 November 2020 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
2020 ARIA Music Awards is within the scope of WikiProject Australia, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of
Australia and
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prizes on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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This article is within the scope of WikiProject Years, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
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The following is a closed discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
"All preceding awards articles should probably be moved also" How many are they? I am afraid they could turn out to be controversial and I'd have move them back if someone objects. What about putting one or two in a move discussion and seeing what people think? –
Ammarpad (
talk)
05:34, 24 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment I haven't yet decided how I feel about this move. I need some information. Firstly, the guideline cited states that the requested version is used widely and is acceptable on wp. However it also says, "this gives a maybe undue focus to the year, rather than to the event" Is there any guideline which suggests the current form is better than the proposed form? If the move is passed, do we have a bot capable of preventing all the redirects from articles that have already used the current format (especially for the preceding years)? If the intention is to move all 34 pages in the series, should this be made explicit via a Requesting multiple page moves format?
shaidar cuebiyar (
talk)
04:14, 25 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose I've received no clarification or response to my queries above. I'm not convinced that such a move is warranted, the guideline cited above does not address the issue of events ending in "... of {year}". Another possible system is seen at the Grammy Awards, e.g. 62nd Annual Grammy Awards. More locally we have the example of Triple J Hottest 100, 2019 which the guideline gives as an exception to using commas in article titles. Examples at other Australian award series include Logie Awards of 2019 and APRA Music Awards of 2020. The current ARIA Music Awards of 2020 fits these and is not described at the guideline quoted. It is not disallowed, so leave it as it is.
shaidar cuebiyar (
talk)
03:39, 1 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Support. And apply to all prior years too. This is the standard format for almost any kind of year-denominated event, and I don't see a strong reason to deviate here. See also
here for the RfC which decided on such a format for elections and referenda. —
Amakuru (
talk)
13:25, 1 November 2020 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.