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This claims of Hezbollah is alleged it doesn't mean we should remove it.The Israeli claims reported by WP:RS and hence WP:DUE.-- Shrike ( talk) 15:58, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
I really dont know what going on, in the heads of some people regarding this article. Be patient lets wait until more information comes out, to make changes. Mr.User200 ( talk) 18:43, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
Is DEBKAfile a reliable source? Really? The articles seem contradictory and speculative to me. Is it likely that a Harpy could be brought down by a kid with a rock? A photograph elsewhere clearly shows a four-propeller drone, clearly not a Harpy, and I don't find it likely that it would have the range to fly from Israel. The whole story is just a mess, with no plausible information or corroborating evidence from anyone.
Ketil ( talk) 21:07, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
Folks as far as I can see, Israel has not accepted that it did. Israel Media are alleging Iran did it. Whatever may be the case, we cannot say this in Wikipedia's voice. Accordingly I have added alleged in the infobox. Proper attributions need to be given for any statement alleging that Israel or Iran did it. Nothing should be added in wikipedia's voice here. -- DBig Xrayᗙ 05:56, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
That's behind a paywall now (previously it was sourced to some private tweet [5] saying the info came from "Hezbollah", corroborated by an anonymous at hezbollah.liveuamap.com [6]), and I didn't touch that source nor am I able to verify it. Reuters clearly says there was only material damage [7], while AP News [8] (explicitly with reporters at the scene) and Al Jazeera [9] only mention material damage . This source claims 3 people injured [10]. It doesn't even matter who Prensa Latina is, I think I understand why they and the Financial Times seem to agree on this. At least Fidel Castro understands that information wants to be free and cites its sources, but "an anonymous inside Hezbollah" still doen't convince me. Haaretz blames the info on Lebanon's National News Agency [11], but among the many articles discussing the attack, I can't find any that mentions injured people. This is the official statement of the Lebanese Army to NNA: [12]. No mention of injuries. the nearest I come to a reliable source is this: 3 injured by falling disco ball at Beirut nightclub. Wakari07 ( talk) 21:19, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
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This claims of Hezbollah is alleged it doesn't mean we should remove it.The Israeli claims reported by WP:RS and hence WP:DUE.-- Shrike ( talk) 15:58, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
I really dont know what going on, in the heads of some people regarding this article. Be patient lets wait until more information comes out, to make changes. Mr.User200 ( talk) 18:43, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
Is DEBKAfile a reliable source? Really? The articles seem contradictory and speculative to me. Is it likely that a Harpy could be brought down by a kid with a rock? A photograph elsewhere clearly shows a four-propeller drone, clearly not a Harpy, and I don't find it likely that it would have the range to fly from Israel. The whole story is just a mess, with no plausible information or corroborating evidence from anyone.
Ketil ( talk) 21:07, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
Folks as far as I can see, Israel has not accepted that it did. Israel Media are alleging Iran did it. Whatever may be the case, we cannot say this in Wikipedia's voice. Accordingly I have added alleged in the infobox. Proper attributions need to be given for any statement alleging that Israel or Iran did it. Nothing should be added in wikipedia's voice here. -- DBig Xrayᗙ 05:56, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
That's behind a paywall now (previously it was sourced to some private tweet [5] saying the info came from "Hezbollah", corroborated by an anonymous at hezbollah.liveuamap.com [6]), and I didn't touch that source nor am I able to verify it. Reuters clearly says there was only material damage [7], while AP News [8] (explicitly with reporters at the scene) and Al Jazeera [9] only mention material damage . This source claims 3 people injured [10]. It doesn't even matter who Prensa Latina is, I think I understand why they and the Financial Times seem to agree on this. At least Fidel Castro understands that information wants to be free and cites its sources, but "an anonymous inside Hezbollah" still doen't convince me. Haaretz blames the info on Lebanon's National News Agency [11], but among the many articles discussing the attack, I can't find any that mentions injured people. This is the official statement of the Lebanese Army to NNA: [12]. No mention of injuries. the nearest I come to a reliable source is this: 3 injured by falling disco ball at Beirut nightclub. Wakari07 ( talk) 21:19, 27 August 2019 (UTC)