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The infobox presently has the Pakistan and Pakistani leaders in the right-side column. This doesn't make any sense, as the attack neither actually hit Pakistani state targets, nor was it intended to hit them. If we go by the intended parties in this conflict, the right side columns say "Jaish-e-Mohammed (alleged)" under "Belligerents" and perhaps list some of the chief militants of JeM, especially if there's evidence Indian intelligence expected them to be there at the time of the bombing; on the other hand, if we go by the actual targets, it should say "None" under "Belligerents" and not lkst any commanders. In either case, however, we should list "None" and "0" under "Units involved" and "Strength", respectively. What definitely doesn't make sense is the present wording which implies the target was the Pakistani military. It is true that Pakistan subsequently retaliated in the 2019 Jammu and Kashmir airstrikes, but that's a different subject with its own article. Brusquedandelion ( talk) 18:17, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
be specific about your reasons in the edit summary. I've seen 0 evidence of you even making an attempt to do any of that. WP:ONUS is about verifiability, but you haven't even made any specific claims about the verifiability of my edits, or even given any specific reasons why you dislike them (besides those in the infobox)! This is thoroughly unsurprising, since my body edits were extremely minor edits, all already verified by the pre-existing sources. Brusquedandelion ( talk) 18:45, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
is not a get-out-of-discussion-free card for the reverter, yet that is exactly how you are using it. Brusquedandelion ( talk) 19:04, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
is not a get-out-of-discussion-free card for the reverter, and that reverters should
be specific about your reasons in the edit summary, and you have failed to provide a reason for your revert to my non-infobox changes, and are completely refusing to even attempt to explain your non-infobox-related reverts. You are very obviously engaging in WP:STONEWALLING. Brusquedandelion ( talk) 19:02, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
As I said above, this page has been worked at to a state where neither side's POV is given undue prominence.
This is deliberate, it's called compromise, and the one thing we do not need is for it to all kick off again.
We do not need the word Human, as we know what we mean by no casualties, but it's not a major issue)
Did all western diplomats say this, or was it only a few?
Some Western diplomatsto
Western diplomats in Islamabadbecause the latter is, verbatim, the wording used in the source, whereas the former is not and is unspecific, besides being bad style (the reasons why I changed it). I cannot imagine that even the basest far right Hindutva ideologue who uncritically believes every word that drops from Modi's mouth would find my wording to be more controversial than the prior wording—if anything, it necessarily limits the scope of the involved officials even more, to just those in Islamabad—so I am once again amazed you are challenging it. It is simply, verbatim, the wording used in the source.
We do not need a list of injuries or damage, it also odd to say there was no damage to people, immediately after mentioning that someone was injured (ditto for no damage to buildings).
villagers/
residentsboth report the bomb
injuring a local manand that they did not
come across any... wounded people? The apparent contradiction revolved by using slightly more specific wording, which was what all my edits (outside the infobox) were trying to do: they identified a local man received some bruises and cuts, but there were no "real" injuries (and thus no one went to the hospital). This is clear from my version, and completely inexplicable from yours, without tracing down what each source said, as I did. That is the whole and entire reason I mentioned specific injuries/damages at all. And there is no contradiction in my version if you understand what the phrase "other than" means.
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On February 26, 12 Mirages took off from multiple air bases, crossed over into the Pakistani air space and carried out attacks on the JeM terror camp. IAF pilots dropped five Spice 2000 bombs, out of which four penetrated the rooftops of the building in which the terrorists were sleeping. The attacks were carried out at 3:30 am and within a few minutes after dropping bombs on their targets, the IAF jets returned to their bases.
The aircraft used in the attack belonged to the No 7 and No 9 squadrons of the Indian Air Force and included the non-upgraded planes as the upgraded Mirages of the No 1 squadron did not have the air-to-ground strike capability at that time.
The weapons: Apart from IAF’s highly-skilled pilots and the Research & Analysis Wing’s (RAW) accurate intel, India spread out a line of weaponry and aircraft from its arsenal. While Mirage 2000 were used to drop bombs on targeted sites, a set of other Mirages with Su-30MKI combat aircraft kept the Pakistan air force planes away from causing any hindrance or launching any counter-offensive. Docaseem.srivastava ( talk) 21:19, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
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The infobox presently has the Pakistan and Pakistani leaders in the right-side column. This doesn't make any sense, as the attack neither actually hit Pakistani state targets, nor was it intended to hit them. If we go by the intended parties in this conflict, the right side columns say "Jaish-e-Mohammed (alleged)" under "Belligerents" and perhaps list some of the chief militants of JeM, especially if there's evidence Indian intelligence expected them to be there at the time of the bombing; on the other hand, if we go by the actual targets, it should say "None" under "Belligerents" and not lkst any commanders. In either case, however, we should list "None" and "0" under "Units involved" and "Strength", respectively. What definitely doesn't make sense is the present wording which implies the target was the Pakistani military. It is true that Pakistan subsequently retaliated in the 2019 Jammu and Kashmir airstrikes, but that's a different subject with its own article. Brusquedandelion ( talk) 18:17, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
be specific about your reasons in the edit summary. I've seen 0 evidence of you even making an attempt to do any of that. WP:ONUS is about verifiability, but you haven't even made any specific claims about the verifiability of my edits, or even given any specific reasons why you dislike them (besides those in the infobox)! This is thoroughly unsurprising, since my body edits were extremely minor edits, all already verified by the pre-existing sources. Brusquedandelion ( talk) 18:45, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
is not a get-out-of-discussion-free card for the reverter, yet that is exactly how you are using it. Brusquedandelion ( talk) 19:04, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
is not a get-out-of-discussion-free card for the reverter, and that reverters should
be specific about your reasons in the edit summary, and you have failed to provide a reason for your revert to my non-infobox changes, and are completely refusing to even attempt to explain your non-infobox-related reverts. You are very obviously engaging in WP:STONEWALLING. Brusquedandelion ( talk) 19:02, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
As I said above, this page has been worked at to a state where neither side's POV is given undue prominence.
This is deliberate, it's called compromise, and the one thing we do not need is for it to all kick off again.
We do not need the word Human, as we know what we mean by no casualties, but it's not a major issue)
Did all western diplomats say this, or was it only a few?
Some Western diplomatsto
Western diplomats in Islamabadbecause the latter is, verbatim, the wording used in the source, whereas the former is not and is unspecific, besides being bad style (the reasons why I changed it). I cannot imagine that even the basest far right Hindutva ideologue who uncritically believes every word that drops from Modi's mouth would find my wording to be more controversial than the prior wording—if anything, it necessarily limits the scope of the involved officials even more, to just those in Islamabad—so I am once again amazed you are challenging it. It is simply, verbatim, the wording used in the source.
We do not need a list of injuries or damage, it also odd to say there was no damage to people, immediately after mentioning that someone was injured (ditto for no damage to buildings).
villagers/
residentsboth report the bomb
injuring a local manand that they did not
come across any... wounded people? The apparent contradiction revolved by using slightly more specific wording, which was what all my edits (outside the infobox) were trying to do: they identified a local man received some bruises and cuts, but there were no "real" injuries (and thus no one went to the hospital). This is clear from my version, and completely inexplicable from yours, without tracing down what each source said, as I did. That is the whole and entire reason I mentioned specific injuries/damages at all. And there is no contradiction in my version if you understand what the phrase "other than" means.
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On February 26, 12 Mirages took off from multiple air bases, crossed over into the Pakistani air space and carried out attacks on the JeM terror camp. IAF pilots dropped five Spice 2000 bombs, out of which four penetrated the rooftops of the building in which the terrorists were sleeping. The attacks were carried out at 3:30 am and within a few minutes after dropping bombs on their targets, the IAF jets returned to their bases.
The aircraft used in the attack belonged to the No 7 and No 9 squadrons of the Indian Air Force and included the non-upgraded planes as the upgraded Mirages of the No 1 squadron did not have the air-to-ground strike capability at that time.
The weapons: Apart from IAF’s highly-skilled pilots and the Research & Analysis Wing’s (RAW) accurate intel, India spread out a line of weaponry and aircraft from its arsenal. While Mirage 2000 were used to drop bombs on targeted sites, a set of other Mirages with Su-30MKI combat aircraft kept the Pakistan air force planes away from causing any hindrance or launching any counter-offensive. Docaseem.srivastava ( talk) 21:19, 27 April 2024 (UTC)