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Text and/or other creative content from this version of Australian cricket team in South Africa in 2017–18 was copied or moved into 2018 Australian ball-tampering scandal with this edit on 28 March 2018. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists. |
@ Lugnuts: why did you re-name this article? This is the first such incident for Australia so adding the year doesn't serve to disambiguate it. Thanks, Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 18:13, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
Should not this article be titled 2018 Australian ball-tampering scandal? — fourthords | =Λ= | 23:56, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
Images and free/fair use is a weakspot for me on here, TBH. If anyone has knowledge in this area, can we use existing images of Smith, Warner, etc in this article too? I don't think there's an image of Bancroft, but maybe some montage of those three and Lehmann might be useful. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 12:40, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
@ Lugnuts: The images of both Steve Smith and David Warner have been used in the article and was initially proceeded by an anonymous user. The images of both Smith and Warner have been merged together in this article similar to that of Wikinews article on Steve Smith and David Warner ban for one year. Abishe ( talk) 14:49, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
I have been worried about the fact that the importance of Fanie de Villiers role has been continuously neglected and removed from the article as he played the key role in suspecting the Australians of a possible ball tampering before raising his deep concern on that issue to claim further with latest updates. Abishe ( talk) 14:49, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
I have added this paragraph and I want clarification from other Wikipedians on my efforts in stating the real facts with sources
There have been hundreds of responses to this incident worldwide. Where do we draw the line?
The latest addition to the article is about comments from Karl Stefanovic, a TV host who has no connection to cricket. His interests will always be his ratings rather than the good of cricket.
I really don't think his thoughts add to the article.
HiLo48 ( talk) 05:26, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
Ashish Nehra, the newly appointed bowling coach of the Royal Challengers Bangalore team during an interview with NDTV, supported in favour of Smith and Warner stating that either life ban or temporary ban would be harsh on them and said that any IPL team would not like to lose key players like Smith and Warner who are in such tremendous form in international cricket. He also gave credit to Steve Smith for accepting his deliberate mistake and uttered again that "It would be sad if they aren't available for the 2018 IPL season". [7] Nehra also pointed out that "You won't see ball tampering in T20 cricket and you see that in test cricket where it has long sessions". [8]
Rohit Sharma also supported and shown his sympathy through his tweets over Smith and Warner after accepting their faults regarding the ball tampering incident. [9] Rohit mentioned that the ball tampering affair should not define the careers of Smith, Warner and Bancroft and further stated that Smith and Warner are always few of the greatest players in all forms of cricket. [10] [11]
Ravichandran Ashwin who was part of the Indian team during their home series against Australia where Smith allegedly cheated for an attempt to ask review for a dismissal from the Australian coaching staff during the second match of the series even without the permission of the umpires decided to defend Smith on his ball tampering scandal and mentioned with an emotional heart-warming message, "The world simply wants to see you cry and once you have cried they feel satisfied and live happily ever after". [12] [13] [14]
V. V. S. Laxman who is the current mentor of the Sunrisers Hyderabad team who was interested to know whether David Warner could play for the team during the 2018 IPL season, backed both Smith and Warner and also urged media to spare thoughts for the families of the disgraced cricketers. [15]
Yuvraj Singh another Indian cricketer who also commented in favour of Smith and Warner stating that the sanctions are too harsh on them. [16]
Kane Williamson who replaced David Warner as the new Sunrisers Hyderabad captain for the 2018 IPL season stated that he has been contact with the disgraced cricketer since the ball tampering incident and admitted that Warner isn't a bad personality according to him. [17] [18] [19]
Hashim Amla also backed the disgraced trio over the incident and felt sorry for the cricketers and alarmed that it is a wake up call to the international cricket. He also insisted that he doesn't want to see anyone in that kind of a situation. [20] [21] [22]
propadog I'm sure I'll get crucified for this, but hey. I've been re-going through the article, and included references to the actual Cricket Australia press releases etc. I know I'm being pedantic, but I've got a law degree. It's alright- I don't use it. ;-) Sorry if I've been steaming ahead but things have been flowing thicker and faster than I'm used to. eg I was updating the Warner presser from the Warner presser then on the way home. I know I've made a few mistakes- apologies to all.
OK- my concerns: °The sanctions are 12 months, not 1 year. Refer CA press release.
°Many CA comments, the charges and sanctions now in article have been directly quoted from CA press release. Be very careful before changing...
°Test matches are proper nouns eg First Test refer Wisdens, Cricket Australia, EWCB, MCC, BCCI, etc.
°No one was ever charged with ball tampering. The plot was actually a miserable failure. Bancroft was charged with attempt by ICC. All three were charged with bringing in the game into disrepute by CA, Smith also by ICC. Text should reflect this. I'm not lessening the severity of the act- I'm pushing accuracy.
°The reactions from other players is getting large and unwieldy and becoming bigger than the actual events. Should we restrict it to well known persons with something new to add? A famous player saying I feel sorry for them may not add a lot. Conversely, there are a few who can drop out of current reactions as a "who?" eg tom moody.
°Sachin is referred to as a legend. I propose leaving it in, because other greats eg Ponting have been quiet
°In player reactions: when compared to Smith/Bancroft pressers, is Warner treated a bit more coldly or harshly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Propadog ( talk • contribs) 11:43, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved per below L293D ( ☎ • ✎) 14:10, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
2018 Australian ball-tampering scandal → 2018 Australian ball tampering scandal – As per the ball tampering article, ball tampering (without the -) is the correct spelling. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 18:31, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
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This article is written in Australian English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, realise, program, labour (but Labor Party)) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus. |
A news item involving 2018 Australian ball-tampering scandal was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the In the news section on 28 March 2018. |
This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Text and/or other creative content from this version of Australian cricket team in South Africa in 2017–18 was copied or moved into 2018 Australian ball-tampering scandal with this edit on 28 March 2018. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists. |
@ Lugnuts: why did you re-name this article? This is the first such incident for Australia so adding the year doesn't serve to disambiguate it. Thanks, Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 18:13, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
Should not this article be titled 2018 Australian ball-tampering scandal? — fourthords | =Λ= | 23:56, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
Images and free/fair use is a weakspot for me on here, TBH. If anyone has knowledge in this area, can we use existing images of Smith, Warner, etc in this article too? I don't think there's an image of Bancroft, but maybe some montage of those three and Lehmann might be useful. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 12:40, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
@ Lugnuts: The images of both Steve Smith and David Warner have been used in the article and was initially proceeded by an anonymous user. The images of both Smith and Warner have been merged together in this article similar to that of Wikinews article on Steve Smith and David Warner ban for one year. Abishe ( talk) 14:49, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
I have been worried about the fact that the importance of Fanie de Villiers role has been continuously neglected and removed from the article as he played the key role in suspecting the Australians of a possible ball tampering before raising his deep concern on that issue to claim further with latest updates. Abishe ( talk) 14:49, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
I have added this paragraph and I want clarification from other Wikipedians on my efforts in stating the real facts with sources
There have been hundreds of responses to this incident worldwide. Where do we draw the line?
The latest addition to the article is about comments from Karl Stefanovic, a TV host who has no connection to cricket. His interests will always be his ratings rather than the good of cricket.
I really don't think his thoughts add to the article.
HiLo48 ( talk) 05:26, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
Ashish Nehra, the newly appointed bowling coach of the Royal Challengers Bangalore team during an interview with NDTV, supported in favour of Smith and Warner stating that either life ban or temporary ban would be harsh on them and said that any IPL team would not like to lose key players like Smith and Warner who are in such tremendous form in international cricket. He also gave credit to Steve Smith for accepting his deliberate mistake and uttered again that "It would be sad if they aren't available for the 2018 IPL season". [7] Nehra also pointed out that "You won't see ball tampering in T20 cricket and you see that in test cricket where it has long sessions". [8]
Rohit Sharma also supported and shown his sympathy through his tweets over Smith and Warner after accepting their faults regarding the ball tampering incident. [9] Rohit mentioned that the ball tampering affair should not define the careers of Smith, Warner and Bancroft and further stated that Smith and Warner are always few of the greatest players in all forms of cricket. [10] [11]
Ravichandran Ashwin who was part of the Indian team during their home series against Australia where Smith allegedly cheated for an attempt to ask review for a dismissal from the Australian coaching staff during the second match of the series even without the permission of the umpires decided to defend Smith on his ball tampering scandal and mentioned with an emotional heart-warming message, "The world simply wants to see you cry and once you have cried they feel satisfied and live happily ever after". [12] [13] [14]
V. V. S. Laxman who is the current mentor of the Sunrisers Hyderabad team who was interested to know whether David Warner could play for the team during the 2018 IPL season, backed both Smith and Warner and also urged media to spare thoughts for the families of the disgraced cricketers. [15]
Yuvraj Singh another Indian cricketer who also commented in favour of Smith and Warner stating that the sanctions are too harsh on them. [16]
Kane Williamson who replaced David Warner as the new Sunrisers Hyderabad captain for the 2018 IPL season stated that he has been contact with the disgraced cricketer since the ball tampering incident and admitted that Warner isn't a bad personality according to him. [17] [18] [19]
Hashim Amla also backed the disgraced trio over the incident and felt sorry for the cricketers and alarmed that it is a wake up call to the international cricket. He also insisted that he doesn't want to see anyone in that kind of a situation. [20] [21] [22]
propadog I'm sure I'll get crucified for this, but hey. I've been re-going through the article, and included references to the actual Cricket Australia press releases etc. I know I'm being pedantic, but I've got a law degree. It's alright- I don't use it. ;-) Sorry if I've been steaming ahead but things have been flowing thicker and faster than I'm used to. eg I was updating the Warner presser from the Warner presser then on the way home. I know I've made a few mistakes- apologies to all.
OK- my concerns: °The sanctions are 12 months, not 1 year. Refer CA press release.
°Many CA comments, the charges and sanctions now in article have been directly quoted from CA press release. Be very careful before changing...
°Test matches are proper nouns eg First Test refer Wisdens, Cricket Australia, EWCB, MCC, BCCI, etc.
°No one was ever charged with ball tampering. The plot was actually a miserable failure. Bancroft was charged with attempt by ICC. All three were charged with bringing in the game into disrepute by CA, Smith also by ICC. Text should reflect this. I'm not lessening the severity of the act- I'm pushing accuracy.
°The reactions from other players is getting large and unwieldy and becoming bigger than the actual events. Should we restrict it to well known persons with something new to add? A famous player saying I feel sorry for them may not add a lot. Conversely, there are a few who can drop out of current reactions as a "who?" eg tom moody.
°Sachin is referred to as a legend. I propose leaving it in, because other greats eg Ponting have been quiet
°In player reactions: when compared to Smith/Bancroft pressers, is Warner treated a bit more coldly or harshly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Propadog ( talk • contribs) 11:43, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved per below L293D ( ☎ • ✎) 14:10, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
2018 Australian ball-tampering scandal → 2018 Australian ball tampering scandal – As per the ball tampering article, ball tampering (without the -) is the correct spelling. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 18:31, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
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