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"Croatia is growing" is the motto of the new and enhanced coalition, that includes SDP, HNS and HSU, as well as Labourists, ZP and the "authentic" Agrarians. But I have seen no source as to this being their name. Until someone presents such a source, I am returning it to Kukuriku, the name of the article.-- Batmacumba ( talk) 11:33, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
Someone should change the name of the article to: Croatian parliamentary election, 2015 ; I really don't know how to do that, tnx -- Tuvixer ( talk) 08:14, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
The info about the electoral system that has been placed in the first part contradicts info further down - either there is 5 or 10 constituencies and the incorrect info should be removed. It should also be properly and unequivocally sourced.-- Batmacumba ( talk) 15:23, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
I have removed the text beneath because it contradicted other info and had not been updated and therefore was confusing.
"The electoral system will likely see some changes compared to the last four elections. In December 2010, the Constitutional Court of Croatia decided to inform Parliament that it is necessary to update the electoral unit definitions according to current population data, in accordance with the provisions of the 1999 Law on electoral units. It was too late to change the system for the 2011 election cycle, since electoral laws cannot be changed less than a year before the election. Therefore, the next election will occur with boundary changes to accommodate shifts in the population. [1] Minister of Public Administration Arsen Bauk announced major changes in the composition of the geographical electoral units. It is expected their number will be reduced from ten to five. They would follow the borders of Croatian counties with each encompassing several counties. This means they would not be roughly equal in size, as was the case before, but rather each district would give a different number of MPs, in proportion with their population. The population would be determined by census numbers, rather than the number of registered voters as was the case before. Two non-geographical districts, which give 3 seats for diaspora and 8 for minorities, would remain unchanged. 140 members would still come from the five geographical districts meaning the total number of seats would still be 151. Proportional representation would still be the method of electing members, however it is not clear whether the D'Hondt method would remain and whether there would be an introduction of open lists. [2]"
But it should preferably be rewritten by someone knowledgable and put back in - what happened with all this?
We have several unanswered questions: 1) electoral units following county borders with different number of deputies/or still same size for all? 2) districts determined on census numbers or registered voters? 3) open lists or closed lists? 4) Still D'Hondt? 5) How is the preferential voting system going to work? Official source that describes the system?-- Batmacumba ( talk) 23:15, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
Batmacumba ( talk) 15:28, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
It sounds like a "most open list with quota", which is the one used in Sweden.
"The 'most open' list system is the one where the absolute amount of votes every candidate receives fully determines the "order of election" (the list ranking only possibly serving as a 'tiebreaker'). When such a system is used, one could make the case that within every party an additional virtual single non-transferable vote election is taking place."
"In elections in Sweden, the 'most open' list is used, but a person needs to receive 5% of the party's votes for the personal vote to overrule the ordering on the party list. Voting without expressing a preference between individuals is possible, although the parties urge their voters to support the party's prime candidate, to protect them from being beaten by someone ranked lower by the party."
So basically most open list only taking effect when a quota is met (if so, how are ties decided?)
Is the above an accurate description? (please dont answer "no" if it isn't, but elaborate).--
Batmacumba ( talk) 18:04, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
Thewanderer, please stop your disruptive edits to the article, and please stop edit warring. Go here on the talk page and present your opinion here before you edit the article. Please stop edit warring. Tnx -- Tuvixer ( talk) 16:22, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
Exactly my point. Just wait for the time and do not make disruptive edits to the article, and please stop edit-warring. Tnx -- Tuvixer ( talk) 17:20, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
Party names should be the electoral coalition, not the main party. See the Portuguese legislative election, 2015 for an example, where PM Pedro Passos Coelho is listed with PàF as his party, not PSD. Also, use short form - not the full name. It is already described in the article, that they are coalitions, and who are in them and you can also simply get that info by using the link.-- Batmacumba ( talk) 18:14, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
According to this official source, Coalition Successful Croatia consists of People's Party - Reformists, Forward Croatia! - Progressive Alliance and independent candidate Darinko Dumbović (Mayor of Petrinja). Should we list him also in the Coalitions table?
Which ones are better in your opinion? Lighter (1st and 3rd map) or darker colors (2nd and 4th)? Darker are the ones used on meta party color templates. I think a darker blue suits HDZ better and that SDP should have a bit darker red. Tzowu ( talk) 21:45, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
The movement is often considered leftist, as an example see the description of their presidential candidate here: http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/croatian-presidential-elections-kick-off. Otherwise maybe cross-political, but definitely not right wing.-- Batmacumba ( talk) 13:19, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
Only 2 minority seats (the Czech/Slovak and Italian) were won by individual candidates as stated in the text. The other six were won by minority parties/groups. SDSS got the 3 Serb. The "all the rest" seat went to a Roma organization, the Hungarian to MESZ (Hungarians Associations) and the ex-Yugoslavian/Albanian had two Albanian alliances being 9 seats apart (will there be a recount?) I am not sure if any of these minor groups (apart from SDSS) have English names.-- Batmacumba ( talk) 10:39, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
The number of registered voters has fallen by 465,000, or more than 10%, since 2011. This seems extraordinary. Is this due to population decline, voter apathy, a change in electoral law, or something else? Intelligent Mr Toad 2 ( talk) 04:01, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
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"Croatia is growing" is the motto of the new and enhanced coalition, that includes SDP, HNS and HSU, as well as Labourists, ZP and the "authentic" Agrarians. But I have seen no source as to this being their name. Until someone presents such a source, I am returning it to Kukuriku, the name of the article.-- Batmacumba ( talk) 11:33, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
Someone should change the name of the article to: Croatian parliamentary election, 2015 ; I really don't know how to do that, tnx -- Tuvixer ( talk) 08:14, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
The info about the electoral system that has been placed in the first part contradicts info further down - either there is 5 or 10 constituencies and the incorrect info should be removed. It should also be properly and unequivocally sourced.-- Batmacumba ( talk) 15:23, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
I have removed the text beneath because it contradicted other info and had not been updated and therefore was confusing.
"The electoral system will likely see some changes compared to the last four elections. In December 2010, the Constitutional Court of Croatia decided to inform Parliament that it is necessary to update the electoral unit definitions according to current population data, in accordance with the provisions of the 1999 Law on electoral units. It was too late to change the system for the 2011 election cycle, since electoral laws cannot be changed less than a year before the election. Therefore, the next election will occur with boundary changes to accommodate shifts in the population. [1] Minister of Public Administration Arsen Bauk announced major changes in the composition of the geographical electoral units. It is expected their number will be reduced from ten to five. They would follow the borders of Croatian counties with each encompassing several counties. This means they would not be roughly equal in size, as was the case before, but rather each district would give a different number of MPs, in proportion with their population. The population would be determined by census numbers, rather than the number of registered voters as was the case before. Two non-geographical districts, which give 3 seats for diaspora and 8 for minorities, would remain unchanged. 140 members would still come from the five geographical districts meaning the total number of seats would still be 151. Proportional representation would still be the method of electing members, however it is not clear whether the D'Hondt method would remain and whether there would be an introduction of open lists. [2]"
But it should preferably be rewritten by someone knowledgable and put back in - what happened with all this?
We have several unanswered questions: 1) electoral units following county borders with different number of deputies/or still same size for all? 2) districts determined on census numbers or registered voters? 3) open lists or closed lists? 4) Still D'Hondt? 5) How is the preferential voting system going to work? Official source that describes the system?-- Batmacumba ( talk) 23:15, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
Batmacumba ( talk) 15:28, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
It sounds like a "most open list with quota", which is the one used in Sweden.
"The 'most open' list system is the one where the absolute amount of votes every candidate receives fully determines the "order of election" (the list ranking only possibly serving as a 'tiebreaker'). When such a system is used, one could make the case that within every party an additional virtual single non-transferable vote election is taking place."
"In elections in Sweden, the 'most open' list is used, but a person needs to receive 5% of the party's votes for the personal vote to overrule the ordering on the party list. Voting without expressing a preference between individuals is possible, although the parties urge their voters to support the party's prime candidate, to protect them from being beaten by someone ranked lower by the party."
So basically most open list only taking effect when a quota is met (if so, how are ties decided?)
Is the above an accurate description? (please dont answer "no" if it isn't, but elaborate).--
Batmacumba ( talk) 18:04, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
Thewanderer, please stop your disruptive edits to the article, and please stop edit warring. Go here on the talk page and present your opinion here before you edit the article. Please stop edit warring. Tnx -- Tuvixer ( talk) 16:22, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
Exactly my point. Just wait for the time and do not make disruptive edits to the article, and please stop edit-warring. Tnx -- Tuvixer ( talk) 17:20, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
Party names should be the electoral coalition, not the main party. See the Portuguese legislative election, 2015 for an example, where PM Pedro Passos Coelho is listed with PàF as his party, not PSD. Also, use short form - not the full name. It is already described in the article, that they are coalitions, and who are in them and you can also simply get that info by using the link.-- Batmacumba ( talk) 18:14, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
According to this official source, Coalition Successful Croatia consists of People's Party - Reformists, Forward Croatia! - Progressive Alliance and independent candidate Darinko Dumbović (Mayor of Petrinja). Should we list him also in the Coalitions table?
Which ones are better in your opinion? Lighter (1st and 3rd map) or darker colors (2nd and 4th)? Darker are the ones used on meta party color templates. I think a darker blue suits HDZ better and that SDP should have a bit darker red. Tzowu ( talk) 21:45, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
The movement is often considered leftist, as an example see the description of their presidential candidate here: http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/croatian-presidential-elections-kick-off. Otherwise maybe cross-political, but definitely not right wing.-- Batmacumba ( talk) 13:19, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
Only 2 minority seats (the Czech/Slovak and Italian) were won by individual candidates as stated in the text. The other six were won by minority parties/groups. SDSS got the 3 Serb. The "all the rest" seat went to a Roma organization, the Hungarian to MESZ (Hungarians Associations) and the ex-Yugoslavian/Albanian had two Albanian alliances being 9 seats apart (will there be a recount?) I am not sure if any of these minor groups (apart from SDSS) have English names.-- Batmacumba ( talk) 10:39, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
The number of registered voters has fallen by 465,000, or more than 10%, since 2011. This seems extraordinary. Is this due to population decline, voter apathy, a change in electoral law, or something else? Intelligent Mr Toad 2 ( talk) 04:01, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
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