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Although this thread had been a bit harsh, I have to reactivate it. While in Britain e. g. it is common sense that the chairman of the party will also be its main candidate, this is not the case in many other countries, where a top candidate is specifically elected for the purpose of the election, thereby holding the natural right on a) an executive post and if this is not possible b) the lead of the parlamentary group. When after the election the Conservatives did not want to give Martin Schulz a post in the Commission while all Social Democrats in Europe jointly fought for him getting that post, he was instead elected Chairman of the parliamentary group (sic!). That means that even depecting Pittella in his position of parliamentary leader would be plain wrong as the first parliamentary leader of the new election period had been Schulz.
However, the point of the new election campaign circumstances, deduced from the frame conditions of the new European Constitution, was increasing the powers of the parliament by having the final say in who would get President of the European executive as well as many, many more executive posts. This is called "creative function" (translated from Kreationsfunktion) at least in German political sciences, which is the highest duty of any parliament in the world, especially in parliamentary systems, where a direct election of executives by the people does not exist but of course dominates not only election campaigns but also any WP article of national elections (and by the way of course the negotiations following the election) – even if the person is formally appointed by a monarch as in Britain. The purpose of an election has never been deciding on parliamentary group leaders, who usually are not so popular figures and rather technocratic back room negotiators and subworkers to government executives from their party or their party leaders – except when they're the party leader themselves. They have nill power without the backing from the party leadership. Although a parliament has many things to do, the highest purpose of an election in a parliamentary system definitely is creating or filling in government positions (remember "creative function"). ( Here's a journal article on the creative function of the European Parliament.) The Bundestag elections in Germany have of course never been about the post of Volker Kauder but the post of Angela Merkel.
Oh, and factions that form themselves after the election while having had a completely independent campain should not be put together in the election results. In Spain or Italy e. g. it is very common for dozens of independent or regional party candidates to get elected and later form any faction at random to obtain more power in the parliament. Of course such post-election factions are not shown in Spanish or Italian election results.
The infobox for an election campaign and its results (not for parliamentary negotiations of the following months) must show the leaders of said campaign. Finally regarding the comments on the meaning of Europarties and parliamentary groups: When was the last time a parliamentary group or representatives of a group were up for election on the ballot paper? I can't remember such election conditions. Of course, it is possible to get elected without a party but minor participants do not wipe away the major players of the election. -- SamWinchester000 ( talk) 02:03, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
I am currently working on the national election systems for the EU parliament election 2019, in form of a table. Your help is welcome, especially if you speak others languages (I use the national laws in foreign languages as references) C-Kobold ( talk) 15:17, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
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Although this thread had been a bit harsh, I have to reactivate it. While in Britain e. g. it is common sense that the chairman of the party will also be its main candidate, this is not the case in many other countries, where a top candidate is specifically elected for the purpose of the election, thereby holding the natural right on a) an executive post and if this is not possible b) the lead of the parlamentary group. When after the election the Conservatives did not want to give Martin Schulz a post in the Commission while all Social Democrats in Europe jointly fought for him getting that post, he was instead elected Chairman of the parliamentary group (sic!). That means that even depecting Pittella in his position of parliamentary leader would be plain wrong as the first parliamentary leader of the new election period had been Schulz.
However, the point of the new election campaign circumstances, deduced from the frame conditions of the new European Constitution, was increasing the powers of the parliament by having the final say in who would get President of the European executive as well as many, many more executive posts. This is called "creative function" (translated from Kreationsfunktion) at least in German political sciences, which is the highest duty of any parliament in the world, especially in parliamentary systems, where a direct election of executives by the people does not exist but of course dominates not only election campaigns but also any WP article of national elections (and by the way of course the negotiations following the election) – even if the person is formally appointed by a monarch as in Britain. The purpose of an election has never been deciding on parliamentary group leaders, who usually are not so popular figures and rather technocratic back room negotiators and subworkers to government executives from their party or their party leaders – except when they're the party leader themselves. They have nill power without the backing from the party leadership. Although a parliament has many things to do, the highest purpose of an election in a parliamentary system definitely is creating or filling in government positions (remember "creative function"). ( Here's a journal article on the creative function of the European Parliament.) The Bundestag elections in Germany have of course never been about the post of Volker Kauder but the post of Angela Merkel.
Oh, and factions that form themselves after the election while having had a completely independent campain should not be put together in the election results. In Spain or Italy e. g. it is very common for dozens of independent or regional party candidates to get elected and later form any faction at random to obtain more power in the parliament. Of course such post-election factions are not shown in Spanish or Italian election results.
The infobox for an election campaign and its results (not for parliamentary negotiations of the following months) must show the leaders of said campaign. Finally regarding the comments on the meaning of Europarties and parliamentary groups: When was the last time a parliamentary group or representatives of a group were up for election on the ballot paper? I can't remember such election conditions. Of course, it is possible to get elected without a party but minor participants do not wipe away the major players of the election. -- SamWinchester000 ( talk) 02:03, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
I am currently working on the national election systems for the EU parliament election 2019, in form of a table. Your help is welcome, especially if you speak others languages (I use the national laws in foreign languages as references) C-Kobold ( talk) 15:17, 7 February 2019 (UTC)