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The article states that various people were arrested for their part in the illegal construction & collapse of this building, and that some were released on bail. But this is 5 years ago! Have they actually been tried in court for this? Or is it a case where the arrests get lots of publicity, but that dies down, then nothing follows -- a symptom of the corruption that sometimes seems endemic in India? The article should either say what the results of court trials were, or specifically say that no trials have been held, despite 5 years passing. T bonham ( talk) 04:26, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
I wonder if the article should be renamed to something more specific - such as the location, name of the building - or something that helps differentiate it from other building collapses that have or may occur.-- CaroleHenson ( talk) 08:10, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
There was a question about whether the "Underlying issues" section was original research.
Here's the information in the article:
The prevalence of building collapses in India seems to be a multi-faceted problem. There is a lack of housing coupled with high population growth, and illegal buildings are attractive to lower income people because of the low housing costs. Many people moved to the greater Mumbai area in search of jobs, and without affordable housing, thousands sleep in slums or on the streets. The [[Ministry of Housing and Urban Poverty Alleviation (India)|Ministry of Housing and Urban Poverty Alleviation]] reports that there are approximately 19 million families with inadequate housing. To meet the demands, there are many buildings constructed illegally. Further, some builders do not follow proper building practices and laws, nor do they execute proper safety measures. Poor construction materials are also to blame in these circumstances. Within the Mumbai region there are estimated to be hundreds of illegal structures that have been built. Sameer Hashmi, BBC reporter, reports that activists "allege that unscrupulous builders often pay hefty bribes to authorities who turn a blind eye to these illegal structures and do not take any action against the builders."<ref name=Reuters/><ref name=BBC/>
Here's the info from BBC - see "Analysis section":
The building collapse underlines the issue of illegal construction in India. Police say the builder of the high rise used sub-standard construction material and did not possess an occupation certificate. There are hundreds of similar illegal high-rises in the Mumbai region. Due to a high population growth, there is always demand for cheap housing. And homes in illegal buildings sell at a lower price compared to those in legal ones. Activists also allege that unscrupulous builders often pay hefty bribes to authorities who turn a blind eye to these illegal structures and do not take any action against the builders.
Here's the information from Reuters
"Unauthorized constructions are a product of unavailability of affordable housing," said Lalit Kumar Jain, president of the Confederation of Real Estate Developers of India. A sharp rise in property prices in densely populated Mumbai over the past five years has put housing out of reach for tens of thousands of lower earners, many of whom moved to the city in search of jobs, and who now sleep on the streets or in slums. In 2012, India's urban housing shortage was estimated at nearly 19 million households, according to a report by the Ministry of Housing and Urban Poverty Alleviation.
-- CaroleHenson ( talk) 02:31, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
How would you like it broken down - each time there's a break, every sentence?-- CaroleHenson ( talk) 03:22, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
I'm getting a little confused by the edits - and where we're at, so I thought I'd summarize things here.
Now: There were more than 100 survivors. 72 people died, including 26 children, and 36–62 people were injured. The search for additional survivors ended on 6 April 2013, but the death toll may increase.
By the way, for all the edits that have been made: thanks for the edits! There have been a lot of great edits that made the article clearer, more wikified, etc. I just have to break this down step-by-step so that I'm clear - and hopefully the documentation helps clarify things for anyone who made edits, etc.
--- work in progress, will continue to update as I go so it's clear what's happening.-- CaroleHenson ( talk) 03:07, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi there, The article has been rerated (thanks!) to a "C" class - and I'd like to make it a good article.
I could be wrong, but I thought it's best to have the articles in "A" class to make it to a Good article. What should be done to move it from "C" to the "A" class area?
I checked out the good article criteria and have tried tackling them:
What of these areas, or something else, should be improved upon? Any comments are much appreciated!-- CaroleHenson ( talk) 18:16, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi, In response to comments in the edit summary about the article name. Yep, I see your point.
When I do searches for updated content, Thane building collapse helps get content, but some more specific titles might be something like:
* Shil Phata and Lucky compound might be too specific if someone was searching for the article, not a lot of articles get that specific.
What do you think about the possible options?-- CaroleHenson ( talk) 18:22, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
That's not a particularly strong or useful claim. Is there something more useful? The Rambling Man ( talk) 21:52, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
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The article states that various people were arrested for their part in the illegal construction & collapse of this building, and that some were released on bail. But this is 5 years ago! Have they actually been tried in court for this? Or is it a case where the arrests get lots of publicity, but that dies down, then nothing follows -- a symptom of the corruption that sometimes seems endemic in India? The article should either say what the results of court trials were, or specifically say that no trials have been held, despite 5 years passing. T bonham ( talk) 04:26, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
I wonder if the article should be renamed to something more specific - such as the location, name of the building - or something that helps differentiate it from other building collapses that have or may occur.-- CaroleHenson ( talk) 08:10, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
There was a question about whether the "Underlying issues" section was original research.
Here's the information in the article:
The prevalence of building collapses in India seems to be a multi-faceted problem. There is a lack of housing coupled with high population growth, and illegal buildings are attractive to lower income people because of the low housing costs. Many people moved to the greater Mumbai area in search of jobs, and without affordable housing, thousands sleep in slums or on the streets. The [[Ministry of Housing and Urban Poverty Alleviation (India)|Ministry of Housing and Urban Poverty Alleviation]] reports that there are approximately 19 million families with inadequate housing. To meet the demands, there are many buildings constructed illegally. Further, some builders do not follow proper building practices and laws, nor do they execute proper safety measures. Poor construction materials are also to blame in these circumstances. Within the Mumbai region there are estimated to be hundreds of illegal structures that have been built. Sameer Hashmi, BBC reporter, reports that activists "allege that unscrupulous builders often pay hefty bribes to authorities who turn a blind eye to these illegal structures and do not take any action against the builders."<ref name=Reuters/><ref name=BBC/>
Here's the info from BBC - see "Analysis section":
The building collapse underlines the issue of illegal construction in India. Police say the builder of the high rise used sub-standard construction material and did not possess an occupation certificate. There are hundreds of similar illegal high-rises in the Mumbai region. Due to a high population growth, there is always demand for cheap housing. And homes in illegal buildings sell at a lower price compared to those in legal ones. Activists also allege that unscrupulous builders often pay hefty bribes to authorities who turn a blind eye to these illegal structures and do not take any action against the builders.
Here's the information from Reuters
"Unauthorized constructions are a product of unavailability of affordable housing," said Lalit Kumar Jain, president of the Confederation of Real Estate Developers of India. A sharp rise in property prices in densely populated Mumbai over the past five years has put housing out of reach for tens of thousands of lower earners, many of whom moved to the city in search of jobs, and who now sleep on the streets or in slums. In 2012, India's urban housing shortage was estimated at nearly 19 million households, according to a report by the Ministry of Housing and Urban Poverty Alleviation.
-- CaroleHenson ( talk) 02:31, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
How would you like it broken down - each time there's a break, every sentence?-- CaroleHenson ( talk) 03:22, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
I'm getting a little confused by the edits - and where we're at, so I thought I'd summarize things here.
Now: There were more than 100 survivors. 72 people died, including 26 children, and 36–62 people were injured. The search for additional survivors ended on 6 April 2013, but the death toll may increase.
By the way, for all the edits that have been made: thanks for the edits! There have been a lot of great edits that made the article clearer, more wikified, etc. I just have to break this down step-by-step so that I'm clear - and hopefully the documentation helps clarify things for anyone who made edits, etc.
--- work in progress, will continue to update as I go so it's clear what's happening.-- CaroleHenson ( talk) 03:07, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi there, The article has been rerated (thanks!) to a "C" class - and I'd like to make it a good article.
I could be wrong, but I thought it's best to have the articles in "A" class to make it to a Good article. What should be done to move it from "C" to the "A" class area?
I checked out the good article criteria and have tried tackling them:
What of these areas, or something else, should be improved upon? Any comments are much appreciated!-- CaroleHenson ( talk) 18:16, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi, In response to comments in the edit summary about the article name. Yep, I see your point.
When I do searches for updated content, Thane building collapse helps get content, but some more specific titles might be something like:
* Shil Phata and Lucky compound might be too specific if someone was searching for the article, not a lot of articles get that specific.
What do you think about the possible options?-- CaroleHenson ( talk) 18:22, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
That's not a particularly strong or useful claim. Is there something more useful? The Rambling Man ( talk) 21:52, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
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