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Why do we ignore that the main slogan of the rally was " We are all from Khojaly" ?! Best, Konullu ( talk) 21:20, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
The rally was organised to commemorate and "protest" the Khojaly Massacre in its anniversary. Its name was also this. Hearing anti-Armenian slogans and chants in such a protest, although disturbing, is no surprise (read the article on the massacre) and not a reason to name the article as it was named before the move. Simple as that. -- E4024 ( talk) 21:58, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
Article on Asbarez.com gives WRONG translation to placard, the translation is not "You are all bastards". The references to this article have to be removed. Best, 188.142.246.17 ( talk) 21:33, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
The "Asbarez" news (see section above) shows a photo in which a group carries a placard (BTW it has nothing to do with the word "bastard") with slogans signed by "Milliyetçi Türkiye Partisi" (Nationalist Turkey Party). I follow Turkish politics closely and had no idea -until I saw this pic- that there was a political party in Turkey with that name. Now I checked in internet and could see very few references to this party other than those in their own webpage. Looks like it could be another of the many "signboard parties" in Turkey... -- E4024 ( talk) 22:03, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
The slogan that reads: "Today Taksim, tomorrow Yerevan: we can come suddenly at night". Could it be considered racist or threatening? I really doubt that. Grand master 20:05, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi, Proudbolsahye, could you give the link with picture to the chant which supported Ogun Samast, the convicted assassin of ethnic Armenian journalist Hrant Dink? Otherwise, I will remove that sentence from article. Best, 193.225.200.92 ( talk) 13:47, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
"Zaytung" is a Turkish satire internet page and makes "news" in a satirical way. (For example the other day one so-called "news" of the Zaytung was reported by the Armenian press that a Turkish Ambassador in some Subsaharian African country was propaganding in the country's parliament in favour of a "recognition" so that his government would call him back to Ankara... :-) I know not which other people would take Zaytung's "news" seriously but here in WP we cannot. (The other day I also read in Zaytung that the Greek Government had decided to rename "Greek coffee" and "Greek yoghurt" as "Turkish coffee" and "Turkish yoghurt", respectively... :-) Please cut "Zaytung" from the sources, if not, they could begin making satirical news about the coverage of articles regarding Turks and Turkey in WP... -- E4024 ( talk) 15:08, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
The first sentence of the "Reactions" section has nothing to do with a reaction. So it has to be removed or moved somewhere else. Source no 45 (at present) of the "Zaytung" has to be removed as explained at the above section. -- E4024 ( talk) 16:36, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
Who are these people? Do they actually exist? Why are they notable? An encyclopedia cannot quote the opinion of every marginal group. Grand master 20:31, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
The section on Khojaly Massacre is unnecessary. I will remove it if there is no objections. 1) This is about the protest 2) There is an article about the massacre already 3) The paragraph has been copied and pasted into at least three articles (a user was recently banned for doing so) 4) It has highly POV terms such as brutal, totally exterminated and etc. 5) Very unreliably sourced (has YouTube videos and non-third party sources)
I am in deep sympathy will all lives lost in the war. However, my concerns is for the simple betterment of Wikipedia. Proudbolsahye ( talk) 03:05, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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Why do we ignore that the main slogan of the rally was " We are all from Khojaly" ?! Best, Konullu ( talk) 21:20, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
The rally was organised to commemorate and "protest" the Khojaly Massacre in its anniversary. Its name was also this. Hearing anti-Armenian slogans and chants in such a protest, although disturbing, is no surprise (read the article on the massacre) and not a reason to name the article as it was named before the move. Simple as that. -- E4024 ( talk) 21:58, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
Article on Asbarez.com gives WRONG translation to placard, the translation is not "You are all bastards". The references to this article have to be removed. Best, 188.142.246.17 ( talk) 21:33, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
The "Asbarez" news (see section above) shows a photo in which a group carries a placard (BTW it has nothing to do with the word "bastard") with slogans signed by "Milliyetçi Türkiye Partisi" (Nationalist Turkey Party). I follow Turkish politics closely and had no idea -until I saw this pic- that there was a political party in Turkey with that name. Now I checked in internet and could see very few references to this party other than those in their own webpage. Looks like it could be another of the many "signboard parties" in Turkey... -- E4024 ( talk) 22:03, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
The slogan that reads: "Today Taksim, tomorrow Yerevan: we can come suddenly at night". Could it be considered racist or threatening? I really doubt that. Grand master 20:05, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi, Proudbolsahye, could you give the link with picture to the chant which supported Ogun Samast, the convicted assassin of ethnic Armenian journalist Hrant Dink? Otherwise, I will remove that sentence from article. Best, 193.225.200.92 ( talk) 13:47, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
"Zaytung" is a Turkish satire internet page and makes "news" in a satirical way. (For example the other day one so-called "news" of the Zaytung was reported by the Armenian press that a Turkish Ambassador in some Subsaharian African country was propaganding in the country's parliament in favour of a "recognition" so that his government would call him back to Ankara... :-) I know not which other people would take Zaytung's "news" seriously but here in WP we cannot. (The other day I also read in Zaytung that the Greek Government had decided to rename "Greek coffee" and "Greek yoghurt" as "Turkish coffee" and "Turkish yoghurt", respectively... :-) Please cut "Zaytung" from the sources, if not, they could begin making satirical news about the coverage of articles regarding Turks and Turkey in WP... -- E4024 ( talk) 15:08, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
The first sentence of the "Reactions" section has nothing to do with a reaction. So it has to be removed or moved somewhere else. Source no 45 (at present) of the "Zaytung" has to be removed as explained at the above section. -- E4024 ( talk) 16:36, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
Who are these people? Do they actually exist? Why are they notable? An encyclopedia cannot quote the opinion of every marginal group. Grand master 20:31, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
The section on Khojaly Massacre is unnecessary. I will remove it if there is no objections. 1) This is about the protest 2) There is an article about the massacre already 3) The paragraph has been copied and pasted into at least three articles (a user was recently banned for doing so) 4) It has highly POV terms such as brutal, totally exterminated and etc. 5) Very unreliably sourced (has YouTube videos and non-third party sources)
I am in deep sympathy will all lives lost in the war. However, my concerns is for the simple betterment of Wikipedia. Proudbolsahye ( talk) 03:05, 19 March 2013 (UTC)