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Why is the Green Party listed in the infobox and not the United Citizens Party? I also thought it was understood that unless the party currently holds or wins a seat in the election they don't go in the infobox. Newfoundlander&Labradorian ( talk) 01:12, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
That very much was a minor edit. Fits the description well. You just don't like the edit I made, 117Avenue. So how about suggesting a compromise? Me-123567-Me ( talk) 02:41, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
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Since I see only minimal discussion of reasons why the Greens should or shouldn't be in the infobox, I'm going to make a few observations. The Yukon, Liberal, and New Democratic parties all held seats in the outgoing government; it stands to reason that they should be listed. The Greens held no seats before the election, and they're also running a candidate in only one riding. On the other hand, not only were the Greens included in a July 2011 opinion poll, but they got a result above five percent in the poll. (The five percent threshold has come up in elections in the US, but third parties are an entirely different creature in the American political landscape.)
This is not the first time this issue has come up in a Canadian election. Whether to include the Greens in the infobox was a controversial issue in the recent federal election, per the discussion at Talk:Canadian federal election, 2011 and its archives. I made the following comment then: "Their inclusion in the leadership debates during the last election cycle shows that, in the perception of the Canadian media at least, the Greens are a major party. … The Greens sit in [a] bubble position, and evidence from reliable sources should be the indicator of what to do with them. Based on polling results and the aforementioned debate inclusion, I say to list them in the infobox." There's only one item of that sort of evidence in the article so far. To Me…, I say that if you think the Greens should be in the infobox, provide reliable sources that the media or the populace consider them a significant party. Are they invited to debates? Are they covered in the same way the biggest three parties are by Yukon newspapers and the CBC? To 117Avenue, I say to provide similar sources on the other side of the coin. Are the Greens excluded from coverage by newspapers and the CBC?
I'm not convinced one way or the other about the Greens in the infobox right now. What I see is that one editor made a bold edit and another reverted back to the status quo. Both of those editors now need to focus on discussing the matter and building a consensus about the infobox, so we can all move forward. If we have two editors who are passionate about Canadian elections, elections in the Yukon, or this election in particular, I'd like to have them working to improve the article during the next few months, not sitting on the sideline because they got themselves blocked or topic-banned by continuing to edit war. This isn't the last thing that will require editing in the article before the election, and the harmonious involvement of as many editors possible as are willing to collaborate is a good thing. — C.Fred ( talk) 14:36, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
Should the Green Party be included in the article's infobox?
Me-123567-Me (
talk)
14:14, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
It is my understanding that only parties that are running close to a full slate get a column in the candidates running table. The Green shoots grow slow article says that the Green Party no longer intends to run a full slate. 117Avenue ( talk) 03:27, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
No one is interested in discussing the notability of the Green Party anymore? 117Avenue ( talk) 05:07, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
The Green Party is the only "other" party in Whitehorse, so they get a column. 117Avenue ( talk) 02:54, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
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Why is the Green Party listed in the infobox and not the United Citizens Party? I also thought it was understood that unless the party currently holds or wins a seat in the election they don't go in the infobox. Newfoundlander&Labradorian ( talk) 01:12, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
That very much was a minor edit. Fits the description well. You just don't like the edit I made, 117Avenue. So how about suggesting a compromise? Me-123567-Me ( talk) 02:41, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
I've temporarily protected the page. Please take this time to discuss and attempt to reach consensus on your content dispute. If you cannot reach consensus, various dispute resolution tools (see WP:DR) which can help in establishing community consensus for the appropriate page content. --- Barek ( talk • contribs) - 03:14, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
Since I see only minimal discussion of reasons why the Greens should or shouldn't be in the infobox, I'm going to make a few observations. The Yukon, Liberal, and New Democratic parties all held seats in the outgoing government; it stands to reason that they should be listed. The Greens held no seats before the election, and they're also running a candidate in only one riding. On the other hand, not only were the Greens included in a July 2011 opinion poll, but they got a result above five percent in the poll. (The five percent threshold has come up in elections in the US, but third parties are an entirely different creature in the American political landscape.)
This is not the first time this issue has come up in a Canadian election. Whether to include the Greens in the infobox was a controversial issue in the recent federal election, per the discussion at Talk:Canadian federal election, 2011 and its archives. I made the following comment then: "Their inclusion in the leadership debates during the last election cycle shows that, in the perception of the Canadian media at least, the Greens are a major party. … The Greens sit in [a] bubble position, and evidence from reliable sources should be the indicator of what to do with them. Based on polling results and the aforementioned debate inclusion, I say to list them in the infobox." There's only one item of that sort of evidence in the article so far. To Me…, I say that if you think the Greens should be in the infobox, provide reliable sources that the media or the populace consider them a significant party. Are they invited to debates? Are they covered in the same way the biggest three parties are by Yukon newspapers and the CBC? To 117Avenue, I say to provide similar sources on the other side of the coin. Are the Greens excluded from coverage by newspapers and the CBC?
I'm not convinced one way or the other about the Greens in the infobox right now. What I see is that one editor made a bold edit and another reverted back to the status quo. Both of those editors now need to focus on discussing the matter and building a consensus about the infobox, so we can all move forward. If we have two editors who are passionate about Canadian elections, elections in the Yukon, or this election in particular, I'd like to have them working to improve the article during the next few months, not sitting on the sideline because they got themselves blocked or topic-banned by continuing to edit war. This isn't the last thing that will require editing in the article before the election, and the harmonious involvement of as many editors possible as are willing to collaborate is a good thing. — C.Fred ( talk) 14:36, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
Should the Green Party be included in the article's infobox?
Me-123567-Me (
talk)
14:14, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
It is my understanding that only parties that are running close to a full slate get a column in the candidates running table. The Green shoots grow slow article says that the Green Party no longer intends to run a full slate. 117Avenue ( talk) 03:27, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
No one is interested in discussing the notability of the Green Party anymore? 117Avenue ( talk) 05:07, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
The Green Party is the only "other" party in Whitehorse, so they get a column. 117Avenue ( talk) 02:54, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
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