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DMK front number adds up to 236 seats as it stands now. guess something is not right. -- CarTick ( talk) 15:44, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Each constituency is given a number by the election commission and I think that order should be followed because it is easy to classify constituencies based on districts, regions etc. http://elections.tn.nic.in/TNLA_map.htm
I dont know much editing in Wiki so I recommend reverting back to my original ordering which I have done earlier. Alphabetical ordering is really haphazard and doesnt give a true picture of the locality of constituencies (2006 election is ordered alphabetically - Please go through it - can anyone make any sense of who won where?). So i would suggest numbering it on the list and pasting the map on the side so that readers can better understand the pattern of parties and winners (I dont know how to revert back and to post pics - otherwise I would have done it. Now someone else have to do it). That would be really scientific.
And CPI has been allotted 10 seats in ADMK alliance and the list was released yesterday. I updated it but someone deleted it. Please post it back. Vadapalani ( talk) 10:22, 16 March 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vadapalani ( talk • contribs) 10:20, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. This version looks very good. Now it is easy to enter the data. Can you please add the constituency map? It would be very easy for people to follow and track. Vadapalani ( talk) 15:47, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
This table will become more complex to edit atleast after in next few days (after nominations) expecting more (Popular/Unpopular) Independents may nominate so the columns may not sufficient. So better to split/create the table for each constituency or better moved to a new article. -- Mahir78 ( talk) 18:43, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
My request would be to make only minimal changes. There are currently 17 columns. I suggest we take out the candidates and votes polled for DMK+ and ADMK+. I beleive these 4 columns will be mostly redundant with the winner and runner up candidates and votes polled. So it would be down to 13 columns. Wikipedia is accessed by everyone right from people who are curious to people doing some research. These columns all give data which will be invaluable in the future. For example suppose someone 20 years from now wants to know what were the constituencies in each district and the number of the electorate in each constituency, he/she can use this table. Someone studying the voting pattern will have some data to start with. It can be used for comparative analysis if there is reorganization of constituencies at a later date. I agree we should be concise and reduce the redundancies, but it should also give as much information as possible. So please do not delete the data. If anything, we should try and expand the tables of previous elections and not the other way round. This article could be the template for future elections rather than 2006 election article. Anyway no detail has been entered in the 4 columns I mentioned (except a few entries in the ADMK+ contestant column) and no one would mind deleting those. It would also free up enough space. Vadapalani ( talk) 14:43, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
What is the need of 2G spectrum scandal here? Then it will become an article of campaigning. :( Please think about it. -- Surya Prakash.S.A. ( talk) 16:44, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
The term "Leader Since" in the in the Infobox mentions what? Since when he/she has been the president of that particular party? or since when under his/her leadership the elections were faced as an alliance/ party in the elections? --Kathamarai 18:03, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the election updates. it is very useful, You are making this election more high tech and information accessible to all. Wikipedia is the only page people can get neutral news.
wikipages for a lot of the candidates contesting this election do exist. a reasonably high traffic to this page indicates we might indeed benefit from this. please see this category for existing articles ( Category:Tamil Nadu politicians) and provide links as much as possible. -- CarTick ( talk) 14:45, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
i would request anyone that has some time to remove all empty columns. all that we need before election results are announced are 1) constituency number 2) constituency 3) district 4) total electorate 5) DMK + party 6) DMK+ candidate 7) ADMK+ party 8) ADMK+ candidate 9) Other major candidate 10) his/her party/affiliation. this will make the table look nicer and easier for the readers. -- CarTick ( talk) 04:39, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
Reg the columsn ...I had managed to close down the details and everyone have tried to close down the major 2 columns . I dont think anyone has urge to fill details of Third Front because of possible conflict between who might be the important candidate and might end up in confusion . So we have to leave this empty except for significant names . Probably SRM chancellor IJK leader , Armstrong from Kolathur (BSP ) , Sivakami I.A.S etc . John pandian and all possible BJP ( BJP except for Pon Radhakrishan i updated a few ) . So lets wait for EC results till we update the remaining column . Also Translating from tamil to english has been taking time ... :) . This page is improving and in a very nice place . Gr8 initiative Cartick . It has crossed 20000 views in just 2 months and most views over last 10-15 days . I have checked all the english sites no english news or blog site has the candidate detail and the 3rd front lists and smaller association on neutral . Few political leaders who i asked them to check are of gr8 praise of the work we do . Cheers again ... -- Rajkumarth ( talk) 1984!#$ 18:18, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
Hi all, any reason for changing the electoral symbols of AIADMK+ parties? - Kathamarai ( talk) 16:16, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
Hello everyone, what is the party official name Puratchi Bharatham or Puthiya Bharatham?
I feel it would confuse the readers a bit, because in some places it is referred as Puratchi Bharatham and in some others as Puthiya Bharatham.
—
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[1] [2] Lihaas ( talk) 15:34, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
Hey guys, since results will be up in a few weeks, I was wondering if we can come into consensus on how we want our results table. If you guys have not visited the Lok sabha pages in Tamil Nadu, I have published maps for 1991, 1996, 1998, and 1999 elections. Due to the difficult of finding free images of constituency election maps, I decided to have a map that summarizes the results by districts. If you guys have a better idea of presenting the information let me know. In order to make the colors uniform, I was wondering if we can have a template table below, so it can correlate with the colors on the map. I was thinking of making a two maps, one that summarizes alliance wise results and the other that summarizes party wise results. I am still debating whether to do party wise summary, since we have so many coalition partners, its going to be difficult to make it somehow work where I can summarize all of their seats. What do you guys think?-- Nader85021 ( talk) 01:08, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
Alliance/Party | Seats won | Change | Popular Vote | Vote % | Swing |
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DMK+ alliance | |||||
DMK | |||||
INC | |||||
PMK | |||||
VCK | |||||
AIADMK+ alliance | |||||
AIADMK | |||||
DMDK | |||||
CPI(M) | |||||
CPI |
Good one Nader. Go ahead. I think this is a very good template. Vadapalani ( talk) 13:55, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Nader, actually there is a map published in the website of CEO – Tamil Nadu. I am not sure whether we can use that or not due to the copyright issues. Even I was trying to derive a map out of that having the borders of Legislative Assembly Constituencies, Parliament Constituencies and Districts. But I have dropped doing that, since I am not very familiar with vector image editing. It would be very helpful if someone does that who knows to do that very well. I wanted something exactly like this [3]. In this we can highlight colours as you have mentioned above and for the Parliament Elections also we can do the same thing with the same map. And having two maps as you have mentioned would be good.
And I want our constituency pages to appear like this [4] with maps, boundaries and etc.
And to everyone, lets get distinguished ourselves between Electoral Coalition and Ruling Coalition. Lets not mix the seats won in the election and the party/ alliance strength in the legislative assembly here in this page. I feel this page should only reflect the election and its subsequent result nothing more that happens after the election. For example if a legislative member joins to an another party after winning the election from a different party or a party joins with an another party/ alliance to form the government after facing the election with a different party/ alliance should not be reflected in this page. I feel that should be reflected under the alliance/ party strength in Tamil Nadu Legislative Assembly Article. Please let me know what you all feel about it.
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Kathamarai (
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Kathamarai, I believe that since Indian copyright is different from US copyright, the map from CEO website, would not be considered as a free image. Doing a vector image editing on 234 constituencies is very hard, so the only option is to find a free image for constituencies. I am sure that newspaper agencies will publish map results based on constituencies, and we can have an external link for that. But I don't think there are any maps that summarize the results by districts, which might be easier to interpret than to look at a 234 constituency map. So I have published a map for the 2006 election and that is how I am planning to make the map for this election. The only difference would be I would use a 32 district map rather than the 30 district map. I am going to edit the 2006 election page in terms of results formatting to this election. If you guys feel that you guys want to reformat certain things, feel free. Also if you guys see any errors or mistakes in the map, let me know so I can fix it.-- Nader85021 ( talk) 04:23, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Nader, i see why you removed the poll. but, just thinking about it in a different way, i feel that these partisan pollsters will see themselves exposed once the results are out in a couple of days and wikipedia sort of facilitates it by having both the information in one place. it also helps the readers form their own opinion about which pollsters to believe in the future. -- CarTick ( talk) 02:42, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
guys, please dont clutter the article with too much information. when the results are out, we should just have the following information in the table. Constituency, district, total electorate, votes polled, Winner, Party, Runner-up, Party and Margin. All other details can go to the 2011 Tamil Nadu legislative assembly election results. we should also try to keep pace with the release of the results. On the day of election, the article was viewed over 5,000 times and i am expecting the same or more tomorrow. please discuss here first. -- CarTick ( talk) 12:51, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
130,000 views guys. -- CarTick ( talk) 00:55, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Please include INL and NTI in the AIADMK alliance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.96.78.96 ( talk) 11:30, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
can someone please fix this table. the extra column on the right. i cant make it disappear. -- CarTick ( talk) 04:23, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
i just dont like AIADMK. it may be the official name, but not the common name. on top of it, it is not at all an all indian party. i think we should stick to ADMK for consistency. -- CarTick ( talk) 05:30, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Why is the previous year on the infobox listed as "2006 election" rather than 2006. Isn't it implied that it is the previous election. Besides almost all election pages using the infobox has the year and not the word election after it.-- Nader85021 ( talk) 01:08, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
This election saw Congress' worst performance in Tamil Nadu, bagging only 5 seats out of 63 seats it contested. Is this right? Wouldn't the 1996 figure be the worst? I am aware that at that time the Congress party in the state had a breakaway lead by Moopanar, but equating them both would be the same as considering Trinamool Congress as part and parcel of INC, isn't it? Of course I might be wrong. -- Wiki San Roze †αLҝ 07:58, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
guys, i wanna try this for GA status. please provide us with some critiques and also please feel free to work the grammer and language. -- CarTick ( talk) 12:08, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
it is a great idea; but very confusing. the best, in my opinion, would be to plot the total number of seats won by the ADMK coalition along with the highest predicted by all polls; we can give different colors to the ones that predicted DMK victory. -- CarTick ( talk) 05:43, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
This article is too long. Instead I think its better to move the results to individual constituency pages. So whoever was planning on working on this page might find this link helpful [5].-- Nader85021 ( talk) 07:07, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
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DMK front number adds up to 236 seats as it stands now. guess something is not right. -- CarTick ( talk) 15:44, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Each constituency is given a number by the election commission and I think that order should be followed because it is easy to classify constituencies based on districts, regions etc. http://elections.tn.nic.in/TNLA_map.htm
I dont know much editing in Wiki so I recommend reverting back to my original ordering which I have done earlier. Alphabetical ordering is really haphazard and doesnt give a true picture of the locality of constituencies (2006 election is ordered alphabetically - Please go through it - can anyone make any sense of who won where?). So i would suggest numbering it on the list and pasting the map on the side so that readers can better understand the pattern of parties and winners (I dont know how to revert back and to post pics - otherwise I would have done it. Now someone else have to do it). That would be really scientific.
And CPI has been allotted 10 seats in ADMK alliance and the list was released yesterday. I updated it but someone deleted it. Please post it back. Vadapalani ( talk) 10:22, 16 March 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vadapalani ( talk • contribs) 10:20, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. This version looks very good. Now it is easy to enter the data. Can you please add the constituency map? It would be very easy for people to follow and track. Vadapalani ( talk) 15:47, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
This table will become more complex to edit atleast after in next few days (after nominations) expecting more (Popular/Unpopular) Independents may nominate so the columns may not sufficient. So better to split/create the table for each constituency or better moved to a new article. -- Mahir78 ( talk) 18:43, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
My request would be to make only minimal changes. There are currently 17 columns. I suggest we take out the candidates and votes polled for DMK+ and ADMK+. I beleive these 4 columns will be mostly redundant with the winner and runner up candidates and votes polled. So it would be down to 13 columns. Wikipedia is accessed by everyone right from people who are curious to people doing some research. These columns all give data which will be invaluable in the future. For example suppose someone 20 years from now wants to know what were the constituencies in each district and the number of the electorate in each constituency, he/she can use this table. Someone studying the voting pattern will have some data to start with. It can be used for comparative analysis if there is reorganization of constituencies at a later date. I agree we should be concise and reduce the redundancies, but it should also give as much information as possible. So please do not delete the data. If anything, we should try and expand the tables of previous elections and not the other way round. This article could be the template for future elections rather than 2006 election article. Anyway no detail has been entered in the 4 columns I mentioned (except a few entries in the ADMK+ contestant column) and no one would mind deleting those. It would also free up enough space. Vadapalani ( talk) 14:43, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
What is the need of 2G spectrum scandal here? Then it will become an article of campaigning. :( Please think about it. -- Surya Prakash.S.A. ( talk) 16:44, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
The term "Leader Since" in the in the Infobox mentions what? Since when he/she has been the president of that particular party? or since when under his/her leadership the elections were faced as an alliance/ party in the elections? --Kathamarai 18:03, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the election updates. it is very useful, You are making this election more high tech and information accessible to all. Wikipedia is the only page people can get neutral news.
wikipages for a lot of the candidates contesting this election do exist. a reasonably high traffic to this page indicates we might indeed benefit from this. please see this category for existing articles ( Category:Tamil Nadu politicians) and provide links as much as possible. -- CarTick ( talk) 14:45, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
i would request anyone that has some time to remove all empty columns. all that we need before election results are announced are 1) constituency number 2) constituency 3) district 4) total electorate 5) DMK + party 6) DMK+ candidate 7) ADMK+ party 8) ADMK+ candidate 9) Other major candidate 10) his/her party/affiliation. this will make the table look nicer and easier for the readers. -- CarTick ( talk) 04:39, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
Reg the columsn ...I had managed to close down the details and everyone have tried to close down the major 2 columns . I dont think anyone has urge to fill details of Third Front because of possible conflict between who might be the important candidate and might end up in confusion . So we have to leave this empty except for significant names . Probably SRM chancellor IJK leader , Armstrong from Kolathur (BSP ) , Sivakami I.A.S etc . John pandian and all possible BJP ( BJP except for Pon Radhakrishan i updated a few ) . So lets wait for EC results till we update the remaining column . Also Translating from tamil to english has been taking time ... :) . This page is improving and in a very nice place . Gr8 initiative Cartick . It has crossed 20000 views in just 2 months and most views over last 10-15 days . I have checked all the english sites no english news or blog site has the candidate detail and the 3rd front lists and smaller association on neutral . Few political leaders who i asked them to check are of gr8 praise of the work we do . Cheers again ... -- Rajkumarth ( talk) 1984!#$ 18:18, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
Hi all, any reason for changing the electoral symbols of AIADMK+ parties? - Kathamarai ( talk) 16:16, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
Hello everyone, what is the party official name Puratchi Bharatham or Puthiya Bharatham?
I feel it would confuse the readers a bit, because in some places it is referred as Puratchi Bharatham and in some others as Puthiya Bharatham.
—
Kathamarai (
talk) 12:47, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
[1] [2] Lihaas ( talk) 15:34, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
Hey guys, since results will be up in a few weeks, I was wondering if we can come into consensus on how we want our results table. If you guys have not visited the Lok sabha pages in Tamil Nadu, I have published maps for 1991, 1996, 1998, and 1999 elections. Due to the difficult of finding free images of constituency election maps, I decided to have a map that summarizes the results by districts. If you guys have a better idea of presenting the information let me know. In order to make the colors uniform, I was wondering if we can have a template table below, so it can correlate with the colors on the map. I was thinking of making a two maps, one that summarizes alliance wise results and the other that summarizes party wise results. I am still debating whether to do party wise summary, since we have so many coalition partners, its going to be difficult to make it somehow work where I can summarize all of their seats. What do you guys think?-- Nader85021 ( talk) 01:08, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
Alliance/Party | Seats won | Change | Popular Vote | Vote % | Swing |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
DMK+ alliance | |||||
DMK | |||||
INC | |||||
PMK | |||||
VCK | |||||
AIADMK+ alliance | |||||
AIADMK | |||||
DMDK | |||||
CPI(M) | |||||
CPI |
Good one Nader. Go ahead. I think this is a very good template. Vadapalani ( talk) 13:55, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Nader, actually there is a map published in the website of CEO – Tamil Nadu. I am not sure whether we can use that or not due to the copyright issues. Even I was trying to derive a map out of that having the borders of Legislative Assembly Constituencies, Parliament Constituencies and Districts. But I have dropped doing that, since I am not very familiar with vector image editing. It would be very helpful if someone does that who knows to do that very well. I wanted something exactly like this [3]. In this we can highlight colours as you have mentioned above and for the Parliament Elections also we can do the same thing with the same map. And having two maps as you have mentioned would be good.
And I want our constituency pages to appear like this [4] with maps, boundaries and etc.
And to everyone, lets get distinguished ourselves between Electoral Coalition and Ruling Coalition. Lets not mix the seats won in the election and the party/ alliance strength in the legislative assembly here in this page. I feel this page should only reflect the election and its subsequent result nothing more that happens after the election. For example if a legislative member joins to an another party after winning the election from a different party or a party joins with an another party/ alliance to form the government after facing the election with a different party/ alliance should not be reflected in this page. I feel that should be reflected under the alliance/ party strength in Tamil Nadu Legislative Assembly Article. Please let me know what you all feel about it.
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Kathamarai (
talk) 13:23, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Kathamarai, I believe that since Indian copyright is different from US copyright, the map from CEO website, would not be considered as a free image. Doing a vector image editing on 234 constituencies is very hard, so the only option is to find a free image for constituencies. I am sure that newspaper agencies will publish map results based on constituencies, and we can have an external link for that. But I don't think there are any maps that summarize the results by districts, which might be easier to interpret than to look at a 234 constituency map. So I have published a map for the 2006 election and that is how I am planning to make the map for this election. The only difference would be I would use a 32 district map rather than the 30 district map. I am going to edit the 2006 election page in terms of results formatting to this election. If you guys feel that you guys want to reformat certain things, feel free. Also if you guys see any errors or mistakes in the map, let me know so I can fix it.-- Nader85021 ( talk) 04:23, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Nader, i see why you removed the poll. but, just thinking about it in a different way, i feel that these partisan pollsters will see themselves exposed once the results are out in a couple of days and wikipedia sort of facilitates it by having both the information in one place. it also helps the readers form their own opinion about which pollsters to believe in the future. -- CarTick ( talk) 02:42, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
guys, please dont clutter the article with too much information. when the results are out, we should just have the following information in the table. Constituency, district, total electorate, votes polled, Winner, Party, Runner-up, Party and Margin. All other details can go to the 2011 Tamil Nadu legislative assembly election results. we should also try to keep pace with the release of the results. On the day of election, the article was viewed over 5,000 times and i am expecting the same or more tomorrow. please discuss here first. -- CarTick ( talk) 12:51, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
130,000 views guys. -- CarTick ( talk) 00:55, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Please include INL and NTI in the AIADMK alliance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.96.78.96 ( talk) 11:30, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
can someone please fix this table. the extra column on the right. i cant make it disappear. -- CarTick ( talk) 04:23, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
i just dont like AIADMK. it may be the official name, but not the common name. on top of it, it is not at all an all indian party. i think we should stick to ADMK for consistency. -- CarTick ( talk) 05:30, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Why is the previous year on the infobox listed as "2006 election" rather than 2006. Isn't it implied that it is the previous election. Besides almost all election pages using the infobox has the year and not the word election after it.-- Nader85021 ( talk) 01:08, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
This election saw Congress' worst performance in Tamil Nadu, bagging only 5 seats out of 63 seats it contested. Is this right? Wouldn't the 1996 figure be the worst? I am aware that at that time the Congress party in the state had a breakaway lead by Moopanar, but equating them both would be the same as considering Trinamool Congress as part and parcel of INC, isn't it? Of course I might be wrong. -- Wiki San Roze †αLҝ 07:58, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
guys, i wanna try this for GA status. please provide us with some critiques and also please feel free to work the grammer and language. -- CarTick ( talk) 12:08, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
it is a great idea; but very confusing. the best, in my opinion, would be to plot the total number of seats won by the ADMK coalition along with the highest predicted by all polls; we can give different colors to the ones that predicted DMK victory. -- CarTick ( talk) 05:43, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
This article is too long. Instead I think its better to move the results to individual constituency pages. So whoever was planning on working on this page might find this link helpful [5].-- Nader85021 ( talk) 07:07, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
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