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The page seems too long with the standard football box, and was just wondering if a football box_collapsible would be more appropriate. The current one appears like this (game results are obviously a sample):
Melbourne Heart | 3 – 3 | Central Coast Mariners |
---|---|---|
Goalscorer 3' Header 7' Top Corner 79' |
Textbook 54', 57'Â (
pen.) Late Equaliser 90+3' |
The proposed collapsible would look like this:
August 5, 2010 | Melbourne Heart | 3 – 3 | Central Coast Mariners | AAMI Park |
Thursday 19:30 EST | Goalscorer 3' Header 7'Â ( pen.) Top Corner 79' |
Textbook 54', 57' Late Equaliser 90+3' |
Attendance: 12,345 Referee: Harvey Whistleblower |
Thoughts? Goff348 ( talk) 10:53, 20 May 2010 (UTC)"
I think that teh standardised football box should be used to ALL a-league clubs as firstly it shows the result at a glance and the coloured results box shows who won, lost or drawn. The other variants of football boxes although correct look rather messy and bulky. -- Auxodium II ( talk) 08:10, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
{{Fb match2 | bg1 = f9f9f9;border:solid #f2f2f2 1px;font-size:90%; | comp = 1 | home = Team X {{flagicon|AUS}} | away = {{flagicon|AUS}} Team Y | style = background:#ccffcc; | score = X – X | scorers = | venue = Venue, City/Town and State/Territory | attendance = X | referee = X | report = [ X Report] | summary = [ X Summary] | date = 2010-08-22 16:00 [[UTC+8]] | home-score = Player Y {{goal|40}} | away-score = Player X {{goal|75}} | goalscorers = yes }}
Abbreviation and Color Key: Adelaide United - AU • Brisbane Roar - BR • Central Coast Mariners - CCM Gold Coast United - GCU • Melbourne Heart - MH • Melbourne Victory - MV Newcastle United Jets - NJ • North Queensland Fury - NQF • Perth Glory - PG Sydney FC - SFC • Wellington Phoenix - WP Win  • Loss  • Draw  • Home | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Club | Match | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | |
Adelaide United | NJ | CCM | MH | NQF | SFC | NJ | BR | PG | SFC | GCU | WP | MV | BR | PG | NJ | MH | GCU | WP | NQF | MH | PG | CCM | SFC | BR | MV | NQF | CCM | GCU | WP | MV |
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | |
Brisbane Roar | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | |
Central Coast Mariners | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | |
Gold Coast United | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | |
Melbourne Heart | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | |
Melbourne Victory | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | |
Newcastle United Jets | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | |
North Queensland Fury | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | |
Perth Glory | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | |
Sydney FC | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | |
Wellington Phoenix | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 |
MLS style table looks great and shows teams progression week by week. I'd vote for these and the collapsable boxes, which still retain all information without clutter. With more games this season it makes sense, simply copying the formatting of last season keeps continuity but lacks any improvement. Also, would there be a way to have a button which would decollapse all boxes at once? Davo499 ( talk) 05:34, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
As during the previous season, those guys should be mentioned with initials for ambiguity:
— WiJG ? 11:26, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
I assume the double header entry is what is causing the total to be incorrect, but I don't know how to correct it. Anyone ? JoltColaOfEvil ( talk) 09:40, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
It's wrong, Mariners haven't won a game this season. Nath1991 ( talk) 02:31, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Consider changing first place to a different colour and adding "Qualifies for AFC Champions League" in the key? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.164.192.235 ( talk) 03:26, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Am I the only person who has a lot of trouble being able to see the light shade of green that is used for a single penalty? It happens on a variety of monitors I use, and I think it would be a good idea to change the colour to something a bit more monitor friendly. Possibly the win colour in the table of results? Tomwijgers ( talk) 07:56, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
The total score for Serge van Dijk is incorrect. The individual goals tally per round is correct at 8, this means he should move up a slot to show him as equal top scorer so far. I am unskilled in editing wiki and in my 2 preview attempts I screwed up the table formatting. I canceled my edit attempt to preserve the look of the page. Thanks to those who regularly update this page. I use it all the time for researching articles for my AdelUnited Blog:) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.171.80.12 ( talk) 22:34, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
I moved them because it seems more logical to have a week starting on Wednesday and finishing on Sunday thus corresponding with the real calendar week. — WiJG ? 08:07, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Hi guys, I was wondering why there are no assists table like it does for goals on the seasonal pages? You'd think it would be almost as important as goals? Every other league highlights assists after goals, shouldn't the A-League? -- frechcelerycj ( talk) 5:22, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
I've taken the liberty of changing the CCM/Syd double header: the full attendance of 10,746 is now assigned to both games of the double header. It is statistically incorrect, as well as amateurish, to cut it in half and assign half to each game. The Frederick ( talk) 00:36, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
It states that when you click on the individual game, but it doesn't mention how it is included in the averages. 10,746 did not attend two seperate games - neither fixture would have drawn that attendance if it wasn't a double header, and neither team would have recieved gate reciepts to the equivalent of 10,746 people. Why can you not see that splitting the crowds, as was done with the gate, is the most sensible thing to do to avoid inflating attendance averages? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.224.170.95 ( talk) 14:41, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
5373 is not a made up number. If we had 6349 & 4397 for the two games, that would be made up. But 5373 is a clear divide of the overall match attendance which splits the gate between the two home teams. This isn't complex stuff. And of course we counted CCM matches in Canberra and obviously Newcastle's game in Port Macquarie etc. What's your point? We are still giving CCM a home crowd like we have on those other occasions, just not the full gate as it took two games to draw 10,746, not one. If the gate proceeds were split, the attendance should be as well? There is no problem stating that the overall crowd was 10,746, but averages should not reflect this full figure. They didn't draw 10,746 on their own. Do you honestly think that CCM would draw 10,746 to a match against Perth in Sydney?
It's also worth noting that the NRL has taken this strategy for double headers (such as the Brisbane/Canterbury home matches at Suncorp over the past few seasons, and this is evident by the published NRL home crowd averages in their match-day program Big League. If the A-League published something similar on their website or in the program, we would be able to put this issue to rest once and for all. Unfortunately they have not. Fair enough we are not the NRL but following the precedence of a major football code should be given some weight if the governing body cannot provide clarification. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.224.170.95 ( talk) 10:51, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Why do you keep fighting everyone who undoes your changes? 10,746 attended one event. That event consisted of 2 matches. 5373 + 5373 = 10,746 (eg. the correct attendance is only included ONCE in the averages). 10,746 + 10,746 = 21,492. There were not 21,492 people present over 2 games, therefore it inflates the averages by counting it twice. It's such simple mathematics. Why can't you comprehend it? Brad 191919191 ( talk) 01:26, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Query: how is a 50-50 split the best and most accurate option? Surely we should look at other factors, such as each team's drawing power (both home team AND away team - don't tell me Sydney v Brisbane and Sydney v NQ Fury would get the same crowd), proximity of the ground to the supporter bases of all four clubs, etcetera. The problem is that making a 50-50 split assumes that both matches are exactly equally marketable. Whilst it is almost certainly true to say neither match would have pulled that size of crowd, it is definitely wrong to say we can anticipate how much of that crowd came for the first game, how much for the second, and how many took advantage of the fact it was a doubleheader and wouldn't have come if only one game was on (and how do we assign those spectators, but to an artificial constructed 'neutrals' team?) Actually making the split on statistical regression of complicating factors veers way into WP:OR, so that's not an option either.
The two options that seem viable are to either give them both credit for running a doubleheader to make their figures look good - accountants like to do this in real life, so there is precedence for that - or to treat the doubleheader as two neutral games that had no home team. Both require some level of fiction - the first probably needs the least. The current system of noting the distorting effect in footnote form seems appropriate to this lay observer. 58.174.148.82 ( talk) 11:39, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
The FFA has very specific rules for abandoning games. They only count if they game has advanced past a certain point. The GCU-CCM game was NOT past this point, and thus does not count as a completed game. Please do not add this game to the results or attendances. The Frederick ( talk) 00:36, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
I actually agree with you on this. It definitely shouldn't count - would be unfair for them to have an extra home match to draw from compared to the rest of the league. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.224.170.95 ( talk) 10:53, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
The article for the grand final is currently named outside the preexisting convention: prior articles begin with the year eg. 2010 A-League Grand Final
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As I am not sure about Wiki-conventions about moving the article, I put the request here to move it. Only found it because the infobox for that article had 2009 as the prior final. 58.174.148.82 ( talk) 07:47, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
I don't want this image as it discludes Nrth QLD. They were still here when it commenced —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.224.3.242 ( talk) 04:02, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
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The page seems too long with the standard football box, and was just wondering if a football box_collapsible would be more appropriate. The current one appears like this (game results are obviously a sample):
Melbourne Heart | 3 – 3 | Central Coast Mariners |
---|---|---|
Goalscorer 3' Header 7' Top Corner 79' |
Textbook 54', 57'Â (
pen.) Late Equaliser 90+3' |
The proposed collapsible would look like this:
August 5, 2010 | Melbourne Heart | 3 – 3 | Central Coast Mariners | AAMI Park |
Thursday 19:30 EST | Goalscorer 3' Header 7'Â ( pen.) Top Corner 79' |
Textbook 54', 57' Late Equaliser 90+3' |
Attendance: 12,345 Referee: Harvey Whistleblower |
Thoughts? Goff348 ( talk) 10:53, 20 May 2010 (UTC)"
I think that teh standardised football box should be used to ALL a-league clubs as firstly it shows the result at a glance and the coloured results box shows who won, lost or drawn. The other variants of football boxes although correct look rather messy and bulky. -- Auxodium II ( talk) 08:10, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
{{Fb match2 | bg1 = f9f9f9;border:solid #f2f2f2 1px;font-size:90%; | comp = 1 | home = Team X {{flagicon|AUS}} | away = {{flagicon|AUS}} Team Y | style = background:#ccffcc; | score = X – X | scorers = | venue = Venue, City/Town and State/Territory | attendance = X | referee = X | report = [ X Report] | summary = [ X Summary] | date = 2010-08-22 16:00 [[UTC+8]] | home-score = Player Y {{goal|40}} | away-score = Player X {{goal|75}} | goalscorers = yes }}
Abbreviation and Color Key: Adelaide United - AU • Brisbane Roar - BR • Central Coast Mariners - CCM Gold Coast United - GCU • Melbourne Heart - MH • Melbourne Victory - MV Newcastle United Jets - NJ • North Queensland Fury - NQF • Perth Glory - PG Sydney FC - SFC • Wellington Phoenix - WP Win  • Loss  • Draw  • Home | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Club | Match | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | |
Adelaide United | NJ | CCM | MH | NQF | SFC | NJ | BR | PG | SFC | GCU | WP | MV | BR | PG | NJ | MH | GCU | WP | NQF | MH | PG | CCM | SFC | BR | MV | NQF | CCM | GCU | WP | MV |
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | |
Brisbane Roar | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | |
Central Coast Mariners | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | |
Gold Coast United | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | |
Melbourne Heart | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | |
Melbourne Victory | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | |
Newcastle United Jets | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | |
North Queensland Fury | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | |
Perth Glory | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | |
Sydney FC | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | |
Wellington Phoenix | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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MLS style table looks great and shows teams progression week by week. I'd vote for these and the collapsable boxes, which still retain all information without clutter. With more games this season it makes sense, simply copying the formatting of last season keeps continuity but lacks any improvement. Also, would there be a way to have a button which would decollapse all boxes at once? Davo499 ( talk) 05:34, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
As during the previous season, those guys should be mentioned with initials for ambiguity:
— WiJG ? 11:26, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
I assume the double header entry is what is causing the total to be incorrect, but I don't know how to correct it. Anyone ? JoltColaOfEvil ( talk) 09:40, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
It's wrong, Mariners haven't won a game this season. Nath1991 ( talk) 02:31, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Consider changing first place to a different colour and adding "Qualifies for AFC Champions League" in the key? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.164.192.235 ( talk) 03:26, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Am I the only person who has a lot of trouble being able to see the light shade of green that is used for a single penalty? It happens on a variety of monitors I use, and I think it would be a good idea to change the colour to something a bit more monitor friendly. Possibly the win colour in the table of results? Tomwijgers ( talk) 07:56, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
The total score for Serge van Dijk is incorrect. The individual goals tally per round is correct at 8, this means he should move up a slot to show him as equal top scorer so far. I am unskilled in editing wiki and in my 2 preview attempts I screwed up the table formatting. I canceled my edit attempt to preserve the look of the page. Thanks to those who regularly update this page. I use it all the time for researching articles for my AdelUnited Blog:) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.171.80.12 ( talk) 22:34, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
I moved them because it seems more logical to have a week starting on Wednesday and finishing on Sunday thus corresponding with the real calendar week. — WiJG ? 08:07, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Hi guys, I was wondering why there are no assists table like it does for goals on the seasonal pages? You'd think it would be almost as important as goals? Every other league highlights assists after goals, shouldn't the A-League? -- frechcelerycj ( talk) 5:22, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
I've taken the liberty of changing the CCM/Syd double header: the full attendance of 10,746 is now assigned to both games of the double header. It is statistically incorrect, as well as amateurish, to cut it in half and assign half to each game. The Frederick ( talk) 00:36, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
It states that when you click on the individual game, but it doesn't mention how it is included in the averages. 10,746 did not attend two seperate games - neither fixture would have drawn that attendance if it wasn't a double header, and neither team would have recieved gate reciepts to the equivalent of 10,746 people. Why can you not see that splitting the crowds, as was done with the gate, is the most sensible thing to do to avoid inflating attendance averages? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.224.170.95 ( talk) 14:41, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
5373 is not a made up number. If we had 6349 & 4397 for the two games, that would be made up. But 5373 is a clear divide of the overall match attendance which splits the gate between the two home teams. This isn't complex stuff. And of course we counted CCM matches in Canberra and obviously Newcastle's game in Port Macquarie etc. What's your point? We are still giving CCM a home crowd like we have on those other occasions, just not the full gate as it took two games to draw 10,746, not one. If the gate proceeds were split, the attendance should be as well? There is no problem stating that the overall crowd was 10,746, but averages should not reflect this full figure. They didn't draw 10,746 on their own. Do you honestly think that CCM would draw 10,746 to a match against Perth in Sydney?
It's also worth noting that the NRL has taken this strategy for double headers (such as the Brisbane/Canterbury home matches at Suncorp over the past few seasons, and this is evident by the published NRL home crowd averages in their match-day program Big League. If the A-League published something similar on their website or in the program, we would be able to put this issue to rest once and for all. Unfortunately they have not. Fair enough we are not the NRL but following the precedence of a major football code should be given some weight if the governing body cannot provide clarification. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.224.170.95 ( talk) 10:51, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Why do you keep fighting everyone who undoes your changes? 10,746 attended one event. That event consisted of 2 matches. 5373 + 5373 = 10,746 (eg. the correct attendance is only included ONCE in the averages). 10,746 + 10,746 = 21,492. There were not 21,492 people present over 2 games, therefore it inflates the averages by counting it twice. It's such simple mathematics. Why can't you comprehend it? Brad 191919191 ( talk) 01:26, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Query: how is a 50-50 split the best and most accurate option? Surely we should look at other factors, such as each team's drawing power (both home team AND away team - don't tell me Sydney v Brisbane and Sydney v NQ Fury would get the same crowd), proximity of the ground to the supporter bases of all four clubs, etcetera. The problem is that making a 50-50 split assumes that both matches are exactly equally marketable. Whilst it is almost certainly true to say neither match would have pulled that size of crowd, it is definitely wrong to say we can anticipate how much of that crowd came for the first game, how much for the second, and how many took advantage of the fact it was a doubleheader and wouldn't have come if only one game was on (and how do we assign those spectators, but to an artificial constructed 'neutrals' team?) Actually making the split on statistical regression of complicating factors veers way into WP:OR, so that's not an option either.
The two options that seem viable are to either give them both credit for running a doubleheader to make their figures look good - accountants like to do this in real life, so there is precedence for that - or to treat the doubleheader as two neutral games that had no home team. Both require some level of fiction - the first probably needs the least. The current system of noting the distorting effect in footnote form seems appropriate to this lay observer. 58.174.148.82 ( talk) 11:39, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
The FFA has very specific rules for abandoning games. They only count if they game has advanced past a certain point. The GCU-CCM game was NOT past this point, and thus does not count as a completed game. Please do not add this game to the results or attendances. The Frederick ( talk) 00:36, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
I actually agree with you on this. It definitely shouldn't count - would be unfair for them to have an extra home match to draw from compared to the rest of the league. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.224.170.95 ( talk) 10:53, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
The article for the grand final is currently named outside the preexisting convention: prior articles begin with the year eg. 2010 A-League Grand Final
The 2011 version is named A-League Grand Final 2011.
As I am not sure about Wiki-conventions about moving the article, I put the request here to move it. Only found it because the infobox for that article had 2009 as the prior final. 58.174.148.82 ( talk) 07:47, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
I don't want this image as it discludes Nrth QLD. They were still here when it commenced —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.224.3.242 ( talk) 04:02, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
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