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A new map has shown up... File:H1N1 Argentina Map .png 70.29.208.129 ( talk) 15:14, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
However, the cause of death is not determined yet. The results will be known tomorrow at latest.
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Someone has removed the impact image.
70.29.208.129 ( talk) 13:36, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Someone needs to update the map to take account of the death in Argentina. 70.29.212.226 ( talk) 03:50, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
There are two death maps for Argentina... File:H1N1 Argentina deaths alternative.svg and File:H1N1 Argentina deaths.svg
70.29.212.226 ( talk) 06:06, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Why does the map include the Falkland Islands as a territory? (colored that is) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr George R. Allison ( talk • contribs) 18:20, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
The maps of Argentina contain Antarctica... but AFAIK, Argentina respects the Antarctic treaty, is a treaty member, etc... Why does the map contain Antarctica then?
And Antarctica is colored in, does anyone have information on confirmed cases in Antarctica?
70.29.212.226 ( talk) 08:30, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Probably the same reason they include a British territory in the Argentine map despite having no authority over it in any way. Mr George R. Allison
It doesn't seem any of the editors want to answer these questions? Is there any way to remove those areas from the map? Mr George R. Allison
I believe that you are not understanding the complex situation behind these maps.
I recommend these articles:
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PS: These territories are parts of the province of Tierra del Fuego (according to the Argentine law), but I agree to put them in gray, too.
So .. should we paint Kosovo as part of Serbia? Yes, we do. And Abkhazia and South Ossetia as part of Georgia? Yes, we do also. The international conflicts are complex, they can not be generalized. Anyway, now all the reclaimed areas in the maps are in gray.
However, it is very strange that there are so many claims about the Argentine maps, and nobody says something about the Chileans maps, where the Antarctica is colored as part of the country (without gray or transparencies). That is an unfair situation, even though the Argentine claim on Antarctica has more support that the Chilean one. -- 201.255.159.81 ( talk) 01:56, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
The Taiwan's claim over that territories is not actived, and, in fact, it was abandoned. Different is the situation of the Argentine claims. I do not understand why to generalize. -- 201.255.182.220 ( talk) 05:06, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
The sovereignty debate is actually pretty irrelevant here. There is very little contact between the islands and continental Argentina - they're much more linked with the British Isles and St Helena. If islanders have got it, it will be more likely to come off ships, or from Europe than there. Their South American contact has tended to be with Punta Arenas, but I think that was cut off before the flu struck. That's just how the situation is... -- MacRusgail ( talk) 17:01, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
Can someone add a source for that, and place a prose line into the article? It has appeared in the timeline article. 76.66.203.200 ( talk) 05:18, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Has anyone found info on why the death rate in Argentina seems higher than elsewhere (as a percentage of confirmed cases)? Is it because they are not routinely testing non-critical cases? 99of9 ( talk) 02:28, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
--Also, Argentina is in all likelihood the first country to reach a tipping point, in terms of number of infected overwhelming available hospital space, which will also drive up the fatality rate. Mexico may have been at that point, as well -- it's not something either country would discuss publicly, for obvious reasons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.111.62.56 ( talk) 20:20, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
--The problem is prevention and treatment programs started 2 months and a half after the pandemic arrived to Argentina. This is because the acting Government tried to block the situation from public, because legislative elections were close. Now, cases/deaths rates are being blocked for preventing panic. Argentina's former Health Minister, Graciela Ocaña, resigned because of claiming "(she) was exhausted", and it is of popular knowledge that she was being threatened to not tell the real numbers. (Source: http://www.minutouno.com/1/hoy/article/111387-Renunci%C3%B3%C2%A0Graciela-Oca%C3%B1a-como-ministra-de-Salud/) The now acting Health Minister of Argentina, Juan Manzur, admits that "confirmed cases of A Influenza are around 100,000" (Source: http://www.elonce.com/secciones/nacionales/nota.php?id=142141) DeMatador ( talk) 19:07, 16 July 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.255.37.19 ( talk)
--I think this is a highly interesting question and the answer I hypothesise doesn't appear in the article, but would mesh with some of the research out of the IDS at the U of Sussex surrounding cultural practices and the spread of Ebola. One of the core cultural practices in Argentina is the sharing of mate, a herbal tea, which is consumed through a filtered metal straw. The vessel and straw are passed around, so it is a tremendous vector for any flu-like disease... I'm not sure of any research that has been conducted on this issue, but once found would be a good addition to this article. Zapallon ( talk) 12:41, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
The article, especially the timeline, is largely just a list of facts right now. It really needs to be written into an article. ike9898 ( talk) 18:31, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
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A new map has shown up... File:H1N1 Argentina Map .png 70.29.208.129 ( talk) 15:14, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
However, the cause of death is not determined yet. The results will be known tomorrow at latest.
Hello. I am a member of WikiProject Medicine, a Wikipedia wide project that maintains and improves articles that fall under the scope of medicine. Since your article has fallen under our scope, I have placed the correct template(s) on this talk page for verification. Upon reviewed of the article, I'd like to make a few points, as shown below:
I'm glad this article could fall within our scope, and I hope to see it grow large! Many thanks! Renaissancee (talk) 03:41, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Someone has removed the impact image.
70.29.208.129 ( talk) 13:36, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Someone needs to update the map to take account of the death in Argentina. 70.29.212.226 ( talk) 03:50, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
There are two death maps for Argentina... File:H1N1 Argentina deaths alternative.svg and File:H1N1 Argentina deaths.svg
70.29.212.226 ( talk) 06:06, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Why does the map include the Falkland Islands as a territory? (colored that is) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr George R. Allison ( talk • contribs) 18:20, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
The maps of Argentina contain Antarctica... but AFAIK, Argentina respects the Antarctic treaty, is a treaty member, etc... Why does the map contain Antarctica then?
And Antarctica is colored in, does anyone have information on confirmed cases in Antarctica?
70.29.212.226 ( talk) 08:30, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Probably the same reason they include a British territory in the Argentine map despite having no authority over it in any way. Mr George R. Allison
It doesn't seem any of the editors want to answer these questions? Is there any way to remove those areas from the map? Mr George R. Allison
I believe that you are not understanding the complex situation behind these maps.
I recommend these articles:
--
201.255.179.124 (
talk)
05:01, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
PS: These territories are parts of the province of Tierra del Fuego (according to the Argentine law), but I agree to put them in gray, too.
So .. should we paint Kosovo as part of Serbia? Yes, we do. And Abkhazia and South Ossetia as part of Georgia? Yes, we do also. The international conflicts are complex, they can not be generalized. Anyway, now all the reclaimed areas in the maps are in gray.
However, it is very strange that there are so many claims about the Argentine maps, and nobody says something about the Chileans maps, where the Antarctica is colored as part of the country (without gray or transparencies). That is an unfair situation, even though the Argentine claim on Antarctica has more support that the Chilean one. -- 201.255.159.81 ( talk) 01:56, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
The Taiwan's claim over that territories is not actived, and, in fact, it was abandoned. Different is the situation of the Argentine claims. I do not understand why to generalize. -- 201.255.182.220 ( talk) 05:06, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
The sovereignty debate is actually pretty irrelevant here. There is very little contact between the islands and continental Argentina - they're much more linked with the British Isles and St Helena. If islanders have got it, it will be more likely to come off ships, or from Europe than there. Their South American contact has tended to be with Punta Arenas, but I think that was cut off before the flu struck. That's just how the situation is... -- MacRusgail ( talk) 17:01, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
Can someone add a source for that, and place a prose line into the article? It has appeared in the timeline article. 76.66.203.200 ( talk) 05:18, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Has anyone found info on why the death rate in Argentina seems higher than elsewhere (as a percentage of confirmed cases)? Is it because they are not routinely testing non-critical cases? 99of9 ( talk) 02:28, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
--Also, Argentina is in all likelihood the first country to reach a tipping point, in terms of number of infected overwhelming available hospital space, which will also drive up the fatality rate. Mexico may have been at that point, as well -- it's not something either country would discuss publicly, for obvious reasons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.111.62.56 ( talk) 20:20, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
--The problem is prevention and treatment programs started 2 months and a half after the pandemic arrived to Argentina. This is because the acting Government tried to block the situation from public, because legislative elections were close. Now, cases/deaths rates are being blocked for preventing panic. Argentina's former Health Minister, Graciela Ocaña, resigned because of claiming "(she) was exhausted", and it is of popular knowledge that she was being threatened to not tell the real numbers. (Source: http://www.minutouno.com/1/hoy/article/111387-Renunci%C3%B3%C2%A0Graciela-Oca%C3%B1a-como-ministra-de-Salud/) The now acting Health Minister of Argentina, Juan Manzur, admits that "confirmed cases of A Influenza are around 100,000" (Source: http://www.elonce.com/secciones/nacionales/nota.php?id=142141) DeMatador ( talk) 19:07, 16 July 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.255.37.19 ( talk)
--I think this is a highly interesting question and the answer I hypothesise doesn't appear in the article, but would mesh with some of the research out of the IDS at the U of Sussex surrounding cultural practices and the spread of Ebola. One of the core cultural practices in Argentina is the sharing of mate, a herbal tea, which is consumed through a filtered metal straw. The vessel and straw are passed around, so it is a tremendous vector for any flu-like disease... I'm not sure of any research that has been conducted on this issue, but once found would be a good addition to this article. Zapallon ( talk) 12:41, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
The article, especially the timeline, is largely just a list of facts right now. It really needs to be written into an article. ike9898 ( talk) 18:31, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
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