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A club's survival in the premiership is confirmed NOT by whether or not the club in 18th place can theoretically finish above above the first club, but by whether or not ALL but the bottom 2 clubs can finish above them. This is as of 5th April 2008 true of the following clubs:
Arsenal, Aston Villa, Blackburn Rovers, Chelsea, Everton, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United, Portsmouth and West Ham United.
If you want to find out whether or not a club's survival is confirmed, download a spreadsheet that calculates league standings Funkyduncan ( talk) 09:33, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Portsmouth are mathematically safe because although all the teams from Bolton Wanderers up to Aston Villa can finish above Portsmouth individually, they cannot all do it simultaneously Funkyduncan ( talk) 10:50, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Aston Villa's survival was confirmed when Newcastle drew with Birmingham City; a result that rendered it impossible for Bolton Wanderers, Birmingham City, Newcastle United, Reading and Sunderland to all simultaneously finish above Aston Villa. Funkyduncan ( talk) 22:14, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Manchester City's survival was confirmed when Bolton Wanderers lost 2-0 to Manchester United, rendering it impossible for the teams that as of 19th March 2008 occupy 11th to 18th spots, to simultaneously finish above Manchester City in the league Funkyduncan ( talk) 22:52, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Why does it say Derby are guaranteed survival? 83.104.60.60 ( talk) 15:48, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
West Ham United's survival was confirmed when Bolton Wanderers lost 4-0 to Aston Villa, rendering it impossible for Bolton to catch up with West Ham Funkyduncan ( talk) 19:12, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Both Tottenham Hotspur and Newcastle United are save when Birmingham City lost 1-5 to Aston-Villa on April, 20, so it is mathematically impossible for Birmingham City to catch up those teams.
As of 28th March 2008, 22 teams can theoretically be promoted from the championship. All except Scunthorpe United and Colchester United. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Funkyduncan ( talk • contribs) 10:19, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
why is it not possible for Southampton to finish in the top 6 when Sheffield Wednesday can? - oahiyeel talk 09:05, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
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THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS
There's been a bit of a dispute over what belongs here. I'd just like to point out that the season starts on the 1st of July, and so the Chelsea job in my opinion does not belong in this article - it didn't happen in this season. Also, the Blackburn job has not been resolved yet but there's no certainty - in fact there's a high likelihood - that it will be filled before 1st July. Unless we reach the 1st July with that vacancy still unfilled, then it doesn't yet belong to this article. If anyone disagrees, especially in light of the edit war last night, I'd very much appreciate them speaking up and hearing their reasons for disagreeing, because I'm not really sure why those edits would be left in otherwise. Falastur2 ( talk) 13:54, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
I'd like to see all the managers that have changed since last season. It would be more useful and more encyclopedic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesedwardsmith ( talk • contribs) 06:28, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Just had a quick look at the current Serie A and La Liga pages to see how they compared to this (they're nothing in comparison, I must say!), but one thing they do have is a map showing each club's location, something which this article doesn't. I was just wondering if it would be worth doing something like that? I think it would help to see where clubs are based; help to see why based on location there are rivalries, and see where newly promoted, and lesser known teams, are based in England. Would this add to the article in any way, or not? Pullshapes ( talk) 17:47, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
The current map put in by Chandler disrupts the dimensions of this article. I would advise to create a Location map template based on Image:BlankMap-EnglandSubdivisions.svg, and then put the coordinates on this template. I would further suggest to revert the article in the meantime. The map created by El Pollo Diablo was not good quality-wise, but better than nothing. Hockey-holic ( talk) 11:40, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
I've created {{ Location map England}} (based on {{ Location map United Kingdom}}) I haven't tried it out yet to see if it works... will repost — chan dler — 06:27, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
The map really should be redone to not use Long/Lat and use the x/y axis so that labels can be moved to better space them out. Also, a template instead of a bunch of code would be nice. I'll work on this in the next few days. -- Grant . Alpaugh 15:52, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Just so I know for the future, how does one use the map of England as a base and add links onto it? Are you using a particular program to do it? Cheers --
El Pollo Diablo (
Talk) 08:49, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
New issue with the map, all teams seem to have moved south within the map, by the same amount. This has pushed Portsmouth into the sea.
Funkyduncan (
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I asked over at WP:MCQ about whether or not the future fixtures for the season are copyright protected in Florida, given that they are facts (even their protection in the UK is debatable), and Florida copyright protects that. The question has raised one comment in support. If that's the case, then, I'm going to go ahead and put them back in. Comments? -- El Pollo Diablo ( Talk) 09:43, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
If they are to be included, it would be preferable to use the {{ Fb r2 header}}, {{ Fb r team}} etc, found on the original #Fixtures section — chan dler — 14:07, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
And by the way, I checked fair use, and this doesn't really count as fair use. Fair use is about allowing reproduction of a source if it's for the greater good - for education and such. What we want to use this information for is more just for personal gain, and it's that which copyright law is there to protect against ;) Falastur2 ( talk) 18:04, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
The dates for the fixtures should be removed ASAP. We don´t want Wikipedia getting sued just because someone dared to question the interpretation of worldwide copyright laws. – Pee Jay 18:22, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
For you guys... if you want to add a schedule here or in a "Football in England in 2009" article. 82.240.207.81 ( talk) 20:45, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
July | August | September | October | November | December | January | February | March | April | May | June | |
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1 | tue. | fri. | mon. | Matchday 2 | 11 | mon. | thu. | sun. | sun. | Ukraine | fri. | mon. |
2 | wed. | sat. | tue. | First round | sun. | tue. | fri. | mon. | mon. | thu. | 35 | tue. |
3 | thu. | sun. | wed. | fri. | mon. | Matchday 4 | Round of 64 | tue. | 28 | fri. | sun. | wed. |
4 | fri. | mon. | thu. | 7 | Matchday 4 | sun. | wed. | 31 | mon. | thu. | ||
5 | sat. | tue. | fri. | sun. | fri. | mon. | thu. | thu. | sun. | Semi-finals | fri. | |
6 | sun. | wed. | Andorra | mon. | Matchday 2 | 16 | Semi-finals 1st leg | fri. | fri. | mon. | Kazakhstan | |
7 | mon. | thu. | sun. | tue. | fri. | sun. | 25 | Quarterfinals | Quarterfinals | Semi-finals | sun. | |
8 | tue. | fri. | mon. | wed. | 12 | mon. | thu. | sun. | sun. | fri. | mon. | |
9 | wed. | sat. | tue. | thu. | sun. | Matchday 6 | fri. | mon. | mon. | Quarterfinals | 36 | tue. |
10 | thu. | Shield | Croatia | fri. | mon. | 21 | tue. | Round of 16 | fri. | sun. | Andorra | |
11 | fri. | mon. | thu. | Kazakhstan | Round of 16 | thu. | sun. | wed. | 32 | mon. | thu. | |
12 | sat. | 3rd p. round | fri. | sun. | fri. | mon. | thu. | Round of 16 | sun. | tue. | fri. | |
13 | sun. | 4 | mon. | thu. | 18 | tue. | fri. | fri. | mon. | wed. | sat. | |
14 | mon. | 2nd p. round | sun. | tue. | fri. | sun. | wed. | Round of 16 | 29 | Quarterfinals | thu. | sun. |
15 | tue. | fri. | mon. | Belarus | 14 | mon. | thu. | sun. | sun. | fri. | mon. | |
16 | wed. | 1 | Matchday 1 | thu. | sun. | tue. | fri. | mon. | mon. | Quarterfinals | 37 | tue. |
17 | 1st p. round | sun. | fri. | mon. | Matchday 5 | 22 | tue. | tue. | fri. | sun. | wed. | |
18 | fri. | mon. | First round | 8 | tue. | sun. | Round of 32 | Round of 16 | 33 | mon. | thu. | |
19 | Third round | tue. | fri. | sun. | Germany | fri. | mon. | Semi-finals | tue. | fri. | ||
20 | Czechia | 5 | mon. | thu. | 18 | Semi-finals 2nd leg | fri. | fri. | mon. | Finale | sat. | |
21 | mon. | thu. | sun. | Matchday 3 | fri. | sun. | 26 | 30 | tue. | thu. | sun. | |
22 | tue. | fri. | mon. | 15 | mon. | thu. | sun. | sun. | 33 | fri. | mon. | |
23 | wed. | 2 | Third round | Matchday 1 | sun. | tue. | fri. | mon. | mon. | thu. | sat. | tue. |
24 | thu. | sun. | fri. | mon. | wed. | Round of 32 | Round of 16 | tue. | fri. | 38 | wed. | |
25 | fri. | mon. | thu. | 9 | Matchday 5 | thu. | sun. | wed. | 34 | mon. | thu. | |
26 | Third round | 3rd p. round | fri. | sun. | 19 | mon. | Round of 32 | thu. | sun. | tue. | fri. | |
27 | 6 | mon. | Matchday 3 | sat. | 23 | fri. | fri. | mon. | Finale | sat. | ||
28 | mon. | 2nd p. round | sun. | 10 | fri. | 20 | 27 | sat. | Semi-finals | thu. | sun. | |
29 | tue. | fri. | mon. | 16 | mon. | thu. | sun. | fri. | mon. | |||
30 | wed. | 3 | Matchday 2 | thu. | sun. | tue. | fri. | mon. | Semi-finals | Finale | tue. | |
31 | 1st p. round | sun. | fri. | wed. | 24 | tue. | sun. | |||||
July | August | September | October | November | December | January | February | March | April | May | June |
sun. | Day without any match | sun. | International fixtures break | Andorra | England's international fixture |
Ukraine | Home match | Kazakhstan | Away match | Finale | Neutral venue |
1 | Premier League matchday | Round of 64 | FA Cup | Round of 16 | League Cup (possible dates) |
Matchday 1 | UEFA Champions League | First round | UEFA Cup | Third round | Intertoto Cup |
sat. | Gold Cup 2009 (juin) | sat. | FIFA Confederations cup 2009 |
fr:Modèle:Calendrier English Premier League 2008-2009 If there's a copyright on this schedule, don't forget you can still watch it in French here : fr:Championnat d'Angleterre de football 2008-2009...
I believe he is basic to complete this one article with information about the referees who arbitrate in the Premier.-- Herculano ( talk) 23:18, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Can anyone confirm if the numbers are being put back to the old font, but the letters kept the same this season? 90.208.116.48 ( talk) 06:39, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Surely we should use STO? seeing as the first 3 letters don't clash with any other club? // Fi nns 18:27, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Not sure who the dubious goals committee will give this one to, because looking at the replays, the linesman didn't flag until Crouch nodded it in. // Fi nns 13:49, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
According to Match of the Day, the dubious goals committee will not be involved because had Crouch not nodded it in, play would have gone on as the linesman (incorrectly) didn't flag for Defoe's goal. Therefore, while the ball crossed the line after Defoe shot, it was not given and so it is Crouch's goal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.146.31.63 ( talk) 08:11, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
OK —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.146.31.63 ( talk) 09:17, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
I was having a think as to whether or not there's a better way of describing the kits in the table in the article. Obviously, the best way is to show the kits as pictures themselves, but the kits in the football kit template are rather large and would make the table far too big. How about making the kits smaller and then including them. I had a go at it for the 2007 Man Utd kit, just to see if I could:
and I think it works fairly well (size can obviously be increased or decreased as desired). Is this worth following up and making a mini-kit template? El Pollo Diablo ( Talk) 11:50, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Why is the minus sign for a negative Goal Differential not simply -, but instead —? -- Grant . Alpaugh 22:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Is it worth adding a table which tracks the disciplinary record of the clubs - number of red and yellow cards, along with some of the details on the Fair Play table (although I'm not sure if it's against copyright to reproduce that)? Could also feature information on longer player bans if they crop up. El Pollo Diablo ( Talk) 09:12, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
I have made a start on a running season review on the Premier League page. At the moment it only has information for Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchester United, Chelsea, Tottenham and Hull City so could people add early season information for other clubs. Thanks. 03md ( talk) 23:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Please refrain from adding a Standings-by-Round table. As per discussion on WikiProject Football, it was consensus not to have such a table for English leagues, simply because there is no such concept in English football. Further, those tables are violating WP:NOT#STATS. Hockey-holic ( talk) 21:02, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
I was just thinking of ways to save space, and I noticed that we include the season in the European place blurbs, but don't do so for the relegation places, and was just thinking that if it is understood that we're talking about next season for relegation, couldn't we drop the league year for the European places as well (from what is displayed, not from the link entirely)? Just a thought. -- Grant . Alpaugh 00:56, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Can someone please cite an article explaining what happens to the FA Cup Europa League qualification slot if the Cup is won by a club that has already qualified for Europe? My understanding is that the losing finalists would receive the place, unless they have also qualified in which case the place goes to the highest placed Premiership team. This seems to be supported by this(admittedly old) article from the FA.
This link also implies that the cup runners-up would gain a place when it says "The losing finalist for the domestic cup competition will still be entitled to be entered for the UEFA Europa League should the domestic cup winners qualify for the UEFA Champions League". However, it does seem to raise a further question- what happens if the cup is won by someone who has already qualified for the Europa League not the CL? This all may become relevant in the (admittedly unlikely) event that Everton face Arsenal or Hull in the final.
Any ideas? Thanks Stu.W UK ( talk) 01:15, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
My understanding of European qualification is that most of Europe will have the a cup winner and three other teams in the Europa league, while England and France will give one of those three places to the League cup winner. This is also how its described in the wiki article on the Europa league. Would this not mean the table as it stands is inaccurate?
paulwmk ( talk) 23:09, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Don't mess up the situation with the original announcement please. Lokomotiv Astana, the team preceded by Almaty, the losing finalists of Kazakhstan Cup, got a first qualifying spot in the EL 2009-10. It happens after the modification of the competition which allows the losing finalists of the domestic cup competition into the EL. So the wording should be "both finalists" instead of "winners". Raymond Giggs 03:37, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
After verifying, the qualification of the losing finalists is confirmed to take part in Europa League when the winners qualified for Champions League. But they will be assigned to third qualifying round if they failed to finish sixth or higher. However, I can't verify for the League Cup winners would qualify or not. Raymond Giggs 05:56, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone know what the situation would be for Champions League qualification if Arsenal finish fourth and win the Champions League? I assume they'll still have to qualify for the tournament next year? paulwmk ( talk) 17:45, 18 April 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.192.170.200 ( talk)
Is this really necessary, it is not given by the Premier League, but by an independent party. So surely this should be on its own article (which it is.) Teynham Dragon ( talk) 22:18, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
But then, if we were to have the BBC, then it shouldn't really be in the article at all, because then surely we would be being biased? Teynham Dragon ( talk) 23:37, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Correct me if I am wrong, but am I correct in saying that Aston Villa 4-2 Man City also had six goals in the second half? Teynham Dragon ( talk) 15:51, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
The following table show how the teams qualify for Europa League.
Rank | Normal situation | FA Cup winners qualify for CL | FA Cup winners qualify for EL finishing 5th in league | League Cup winners qualify for CL | League Cup winners qualify for EL finishing 5th in league | Same team winning both cups but fail to qualify for CL | Same team winning both cups qualify for CL | Both FA Cup finalists qualify for CL | Both FA Cup finalists and League Cup winners qualify for CL |
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5 | EL2 | EL2 | N/A | EL2 | EL2 | EL2 | EL2 | EL1 | EL1 |
6 | Empty | Empty | EL2 | EL3 | EL3 | EL3 | EL3 | EL2 | EL2 |
7 | Empty | Empty | Empty | Empty | Empty | Empty | Empty | Empty | EL3 |
FA Cup winners |
CW | N/A | CW | CW | CW | CW | N/A | N/A | N/A |
FA Cup losing finalists |
Empty | LC | Empty | Empty | Empty | Empty | LC | N/A | N/A |
League Cup winners |
EL3 | EL3 | EL3 | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | EL3 | N/A |
Key | |
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CW | Cup winners (Automatically assigned as EL1) |
LC | Losing cup finalists |
EL1 | First spot of Europa League (Play-off round) |
EL2 | Second spot of Europa League (Play-off round) |
EL3 | Third spot of Europa League (Third qualifying round) |
Also, the LC spot will be shifted when they finish 5th in Premier League. Raymond Giggs 11:17, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
(Indent moved back for readability purposes) Before you continue battling over hypothetical assumptions, just stick to the facts:
Since none of the FA Cup semifinalists have mathematically secured a top-5 placement yet (and this will definitely not happen before the FA Cup semifinals have been played), the basic configuration is still intact. Hence it is too early to tell if the sixth and seventh place qualify for Europe and if so, for which round. So please try to remain calm for another ten days until the cup finalists are known. By then, possible scenarios can be sorted out much easier than they can be now. -- Soccer-holic I hear voices in my head... 14:12, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Can someone web slice the score table. As for how to do this, please take a look at the following link (under 6. Teams and Standings) where the score table is web sliced. You will need IE8 to test out the web slice functionality. Sorry about the crude comment. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPL_2 -- by 210.211.129.115 ( talk) 22:46, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
There is a discrepancy on the goals scored by Robinho and Darren Bent at least. For example, BBC, soccerbase.com and football365.com showed 12 from Robinho and 11 from Bent, while both the official site and the goal.com cut one from each player. I don't get the source of difference. Anyone could tell? Aa4 ( talk) 03:28, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Now given the situation is:
Now I'd like you to think. Did Premier League have any direct connection other than promotion-relegation relationship with The Football League since 1992? Please compare (not refer) to the European Cup (UEFA Champions League) before discussing. Raymond Giggs 12:10, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
User:Ief has re-inserted a full Standings-by-Round table. Such a thing was rejected earlier this year upon the reason that there is no concept of rounds in English football. Is this still a community consensus or have minds changed in the meantime?
In any case, the official website of the EPL has decided to feature those tables (see here, here and here for examples). Any matches played in mid-week, unless they comprise a full matchday, are added to the standings of the following week.
Note that this is not a vow for "include" or "not include" since I am still uncertain to remove the SbR or not as well. Take the input rather as a starting point for another discussion. -- Soccer-holic I hear voices in my head... 08:25, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
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A club's survival in the premiership is confirmed NOT by whether or not the club in 18th place can theoretically finish above above the first club, but by whether or not ALL but the bottom 2 clubs can finish above them. This is as of 5th April 2008 true of the following clubs:
Arsenal, Aston Villa, Blackburn Rovers, Chelsea, Everton, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United, Portsmouth and West Ham United.
If you want to find out whether or not a club's survival is confirmed, download a spreadsheet that calculates league standings Funkyduncan ( talk) 09:33, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Portsmouth are mathematically safe because although all the teams from Bolton Wanderers up to Aston Villa can finish above Portsmouth individually, they cannot all do it simultaneously Funkyduncan ( talk) 10:50, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Aston Villa's survival was confirmed when Newcastle drew with Birmingham City; a result that rendered it impossible for Bolton Wanderers, Birmingham City, Newcastle United, Reading and Sunderland to all simultaneously finish above Aston Villa. Funkyduncan ( talk) 22:14, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Manchester City's survival was confirmed when Bolton Wanderers lost 2-0 to Manchester United, rendering it impossible for the teams that as of 19th March 2008 occupy 11th to 18th spots, to simultaneously finish above Manchester City in the league Funkyduncan ( talk) 22:52, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Why does it say Derby are guaranteed survival? 83.104.60.60 ( talk) 15:48, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
West Ham United's survival was confirmed when Bolton Wanderers lost 4-0 to Aston Villa, rendering it impossible for Bolton to catch up with West Ham Funkyduncan ( talk) 19:12, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Both Tottenham Hotspur and Newcastle United are save when Birmingham City lost 1-5 to Aston-Villa on April, 20, so it is mathematically impossible for Birmingham City to catch up those teams.
As of 28th March 2008, 22 teams can theoretically be promoted from the championship. All except Scunthorpe United and Colchester United. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Funkyduncan ( talk • contribs) 10:19, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
why is it not possible for Southampton to finish in the top 6 when Sheffield Wednesday can? - oahiyeel talk 09:05, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Wikinews needs people to write news and match reports for the FA Premier League. To sign-up, please go here. Please let me know if and when you sign-up here. Kingjeff ( talk) 14:48, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS
There's been a bit of a dispute over what belongs here. I'd just like to point out that the season starts on the 1st of July, and so the Chelsea job in my opinion does not belong in this article - it didn't happen in this season. Also, the Blackburn job has not been resolved yet but there's no certainty - in fact there's a high likelihood - that it will be filled before 1st July. Unless we reach the 1st July with that vacancy still unfilled, then it doesn't yet belong to this article. If anyone disagrees, especially in light of the edit war last night, I'd very much appreciate them speaking up and hearing their reasons for disagreeing, because I'm not really sure why those edits would be left in otherwise. Falastur2 ( talk) 13:54, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
I'd like to see all the managers that have changed since last season. It would be more useful and more encyclopedic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesedwardsmith ( talk • contribs) 06:28, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Just had a quick look at the current Serie A and La Liga pages to see how they compared to this (they're nothing in comparison, I must say!), but one thing they do have is a map showing each club's location, something which this article doesn't. I was just wondering if it would be worth doing something like that? I think it would help to see where clubs are based; help to see why based on location there are rivalries, and see where newly promoted, and lesser known teams, are based in England. Would this add to the article in any way, or not? Pullshapes ( talk) 17:47, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
The current map put in by Chandler disrupts the dimensions of this article. I would advise to create a Location map template based on Image:BlankMap-EnglandSubdivisions.svg, and then put the coordinates on this template. I would further suggest to revert the article in the meantime. The map created by El Pollo Diablo was not good quality-wise, but better than nothing. Hockey-holic ( talk) 11:40, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
I've created {{ Location map England}} (based on {{ Location map United Kingdom}}) I haven't tried it out yet to see if it works... will repost — chan dler — 06:27, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
The map really should be redone to not use Long/Lat and use the x/y axis so that labels can be moved to better space them out. Also, a template instead of a bunch of code would be nice. I'll work on this in the next few days. -- Grant . Alpaugh 15:52, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Just so I know for the future, how does one use the map of England as a base and add links onto it? Are you using a particular program to do it? Cheers --
El Pollo Diablo (
Talk) 08:49, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
New issue with the map, all teams seem to have moved south within the map, by the same amount. This has pushed Portsmouth into the sea.
Funkyduncan (
talk) 10:39, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
I asked over at WP:MCQ about whether or not the future fixtures for the season are copyright protected in Florida, given that they are facts (even their protection in the UK is debatable), and Florida copyright protects that. The question has raised one comment in support. If that's the case, then, I'm going to go ahead and put them back in. Comments? -- El Pollo Diablo ( Talk) 09:43, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
If they are to be included, it would be preferable to use the {{ Fb r2 header}}, {{ Fb r team}} etc, found on the original #Fixtures section — chan dler — 14:07, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
And by the way, I checked fair use, and this doesn't really count as fair use. Fair use is about allowing reproduction of a source if it's for the greater good - for education and such. What we want to use this information for is more just for personal gain, and it's that which copyright law is there to protect against ;) Falastur2 ( talk) 18:04, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
The dates for the fixtures should be removed ASAP. We don´t want Wikipedia getting sued just because someone dared to question the interpretation of worldwide copyright laws. – Pee Jay 18:22, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
For you guys... if you want to add a schedule here or in a "Football in England in 2009" article. 82.240.207.81 ( talk) 20:45, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
July | August | September | October | November | December | January | February | March | April | May | June | |
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1 | tue. | fri. | mon. | Matchday 2 | 11 | mon. | thu. | sun. | sun. | Ukraine | fri. | mon. |
2 | wed. | sat. | tue. | First round | sun. | tue. | fri. | mon. | mon. | thu. | 35 | tue. |
3 | thu. | sun. | wed. | fri. | mon. | Matchday 4 | Round of 64 | tue. | 28 | fri. | sun. | wed. |
4 | fri. | mon. | thu. | 7 | Matchday 4 | sun. | wed. | 31 | mon. | thu. | ||
5 | sat. | tue. | fri. | sun. | fri. | mon. | thu. | thu. | sun. | Semi-finals | fri. | |
6 | sun. | wed. | Andorra | mon. | Matchday 2 | 16 | Semi-finals 1st leg | fri. | fri. | mon. | Kazakhstan | |
7 | mon. | thu. | sun. | tue. | fri. | sun. | 25 | Quarterfinals | Quarterfinals | Semi-finals | sun. | |
8 | tue. | fri. | mon. | wed. | 12 | mon. | thu. | sun. | sun. | fri. | mon. | |
9 | wed. | sat. | tue. | thu. | sun. | Matchday 6 | fri. | mon. | mon. | Quarterfinals | 36 | tue. |
10 | thu. | Shield | Croatia | fri. | mon. | 21 | tue. | Round of 16 | fri. | sun. | Andorra | |
11 | fri. | mon. | thu. | Kazakhstan | Round of 16 | thu. | sun. | wed. | 32 | mon. | thu. | |
12 | sat. | 3rd p. round | fri. | sun. | fri. | mon. | thu. | Round of 16 | sun. | tue. | fri. | |
13 | sun. | 4 | mon. | thu. | 18 | tue. | fri. | fri. | mon. | wed. | sat. | |
14 | mon. | 2nd p. round | sun. | tue. | fri. | sun. | wed. | Round of 16 | 29 | Quarterfinals | thu. | sun. |
15 | tue. | fri. | mon. | Belarus | 14 | mon. | thu. | sun. | sun. | fri. | mon. | |
16 | wed. | 1 | Matchday 1 | thu. | sun. | tue. | fri. | mon. | mon. | Quarterfinals | 37 | tue. |
17 | 1st p. round | sun. | fri. | mon. | Matchday 5 | 22 | tue. | tue. | fri. | sun. | wed. | |
18 | fri. | mon. | First round | 8 | tue. | sun. | Round of 32 | Round of 16 | 33 | mon. | thu. | |
19 | Third round | tue. | fri. | sun. | Germany | fri. | mon. | Semi-finals | tue. | fri. | ||
20 | Czechia | 5 | mon. | thu. | 18 | Semi-finals 2nd leg | fri. | fri. | mon. | Finale | sat. | |
21 | mon. | thu. | sun. | Matchday 3 | fri. | sun. | 26 | 30 | tue. | thu. | sun. | |
22 | tue. | fri. | mon. | 15 | mon. | thu. | sun. | sun. | 33 | fri. | mon. | |
23 | wed. | 2 | Third round | Matchday 1 | sun. | tue. | fri. | mon. | mon. | thu. | sat. | tue. |
24 | thu. | sun. | fri. | mon. | wed. | Round of 32 | Round of 16 | tue. | fri. | 38 | wed. | |
25 | fri. | mon. | thu. | 9 | Matchday 5 | thu. | sun. | wed. | 34 | mon. | thu. | |
26 | Third round | 3rd p. round | fri. | sun. | 19 | mon. | Round of 32 | thu. | sun. | tue. | fri. | |
27 | 6 | mon. | Matchday 3 | sat. | 23 | fri. | fri. | mon. | Finale | sat. | ||
28 | mon. | 2nd p. round | sun. | 10 | fri. | 20 | 27 | sat. | Semi-finals | thu. | sun. | |
29 | tue. | fri. | mon. | 16 | mon. | thu. | sun. | fri. | mon. | |||
30 | wed. | 3 | Matchday 2 | thu. | sun. | tue. | fri. | mon. | Semi-finals | Finale | tue. | |
31 | 1st p. round | sun. | fri. | wed. | 24 | tue. | sun. | |||||
July | August | September | October | November | December | January | February | March | April | May | June |
sun. | Day without any match | sun. | International fixtures break | Andorra | England's international fixture |
Ukraine | Home match | Kazakhstan | Away match | Finale | Neutral venue |
1 | Premier League matchday | Round of 64 | FA Cup | Round of 16 | League Cup (possible dates) |
Matchday 1 | UEFA Champions League | First round | UEFA Cup | Third round | Intertoto Cup |
sat. | Gold Cup 2009 (juin) | sat. | FIFA Confederations cup 2009 |
fr:Modèle:Calendrier English Premier League 2008-2009 If there's a copyright on this schedule, don't forget you can still watch it in French here : fr:Championnat d'Angleterre de football 2008-2009...
I believe he is basic to complete this one article with information about the referees who arbitrate in the Premier.-- Herculano ( talk) 23:18, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Can anyone confirm if the numbers are being put back to the old font, but the letters kept the same this season? 90.208.116.48 ( talk) 06:39, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Surely we should use STO? seeing as the first 3 letters don't clash with any other club? // Fi nns 18:27, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Not sure who the dubious goals committee will give this one to, because looking at the replays, the linesman didn't flag until Crouch nodded it in. // Fi nns 13:49, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
According to Match of the Day, the dubious goals committee will not be involved because had Crouch not nodded it in, play would have gone on as the linesman (incorrectly) didn't flag for Defoe's goal. Therefore, while the ball crossed the line after Defoe shot, it was not given and so it is Crouch's goal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.146.31.63 ( talk) 08:11, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
OK —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.146.31.63 ( talk) 09:17, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
I was having a think as to whether or not there's a better way of describing the kits in the table in the article. Obviously, the best way is to show the kits as pictures themselves, but the kits in the football kit template are rather large and would make the table far too big. How about making the kits smaller and then including them. I had a go at it for the 2007 Man Utd kit, just to see if I could:
and I think it works fairly well (size can obviously be increased or decreased as desired). Is this worth following up and making a mini-kit template? El Pollo Diablo ( Talk) 11:50, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Why is the minus sign for a negative Goal Differential not simply -, but instead —? -- Grant . Alpaugh 22:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Is it worth adding a table which tracks the disciplinary record of the clubs - number of red and yellow cards, along with some of the details on the Fair Play table (although I'm not sure if it's against copyright to reproduce that)? Could also feature information on longer player bans if they crop up. El Pollo Diablo ( Talk) 09:12, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
I have made a start on a running season review on the Premier League page. At the moment it only has information for Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchester United, Chelsea, Tottenham and Hull City so could people add early season information for other clubs. Thanks. 03md ( talk) 23:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Please refrain from adding a Standings-by-Round table. As per discussion on WikiProject Football, it was consensus not to have such a table for English leagues, simply because there is no such concept in English football. Further, those tables are violating WP:NOT#STATS. Hockey-holic ( talk) 21:02, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
I was just thinking of ways to save space, and I noticed that we include the season in the European place blurbs, but don't do so for the relegation places, and was just thinking that if it is understood that we're talking about next season for relegation, couldn't we drop the league year for the European places as well (from what is displayed, not from the link entirely)? Just a thought. -- Grant . Alpaugh 00:56, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Can someone please cite an article explaining what happens to the FA Cup Europa League qualification slot if the Cup is won by a club that has already qualified for Europe? My understanding is that the losing finalists would receive the place, unless they have also qualified in which case the place goes to the highest placed Premiership team. This seems to be supported by this(admittedly old) article from the FA.
This link also implies that the cup runners-up would gain a place when it says "The losing finalist for the domestic cup competition will still be entitled to be entered for the UEFA Europa League should the domestic cup winners qualify for the UEFA Champions League". However, it does seem to raise a further question- what happens if the cup is won by someone who has already qualified for the Europa League not the CL? This all may become relevant in the (admittedly unlikely) event that Everton face Arsenal or Hull in the final.
Any ideas? Thanks Stu.W UK ( talk) 01:15, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
My understanding of European qualification is that most of Europe will have the a cup winner and three other teams in the Europa league, while England and France will give one of those three places to the League cup winner. This is also how its described in the wiki article on the Europa league. Would this not mean the table as it stands is inaccurate?
paulwmk ( talk) 23:09, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Don't mess up the situation with the original announcement please. Lokomotiv Astana, the team preceded by Almaty, the losing finalists of Kazakhstan Cup, got a first qualifying spot in the EL 2009-10. It happens after the modification of the competition which allows the losing finalists of the domestic cup competition into the EL. So the wording should be "both finalists" instead of "winners". Raymond Giggs 03:37, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
After verifying, the qualification of the losing finalists is confirmed to take part in Europa League when the winners qualified for Champions League. But they will be assigned to third qualifying round if they failed to finish sixth or higher. However, I can't verify for the League Cup winners would qualify or not. Raymond Giggs 05:56, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone know what the situation would be for Champions League qualification if Arsenal finish fourth and win the Champions League? I assume they'll still have to qualify for the tournament next year? paulwmk ( talk) 17:45, 18 April 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.192.170.200 ( talk)
Is this really necessary, it is not given by the Premier League, but by an independent party. So surely this should be on its own article (which it is.) Teynham Dragon ( talk) 22:18, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
But then, if we were to have the BBC, then it shouldn't really be in the article at all, because then surely we would be being biased? Teynham Dragon ( talk) 23:37, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Correct me if I am wrong, but am I correct in saying that Aston Villa 4-2 Man City also had six goals in the second half? Teynham Dragon ( talk) 15:51, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
The following table show how the teams qualify for Europa League.
Rank | Normal situation | FA Cup winners qualify for CL | FA Cup winners qualify for EL finishing 5th in league | League Cup winners qualify for CL | League Cup winners qualify for EL finishing 5th in league | Same team winning both cups but fail to qualify for CL | Same team winning both cups qualify for CL | Both FA Cup finalists qualify for CL | Both FA Cup finalists and League Cup winners qualify for CL |
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5 | EL2 | EL2 | N/A | EL2 | EL2 | EL2 | EL2 | EL1 | EL1 |
6 | Empty | Empty | EL2 | EL3 | EL3 | EL3 | EL3 | EL2 | EL2 |
7 | Empty | Empty | Empty | Empty | Empty | Empty | Empty | Empty | EL3 |
FA Cup winners |
CW | N/A | CW | CW | CW | CW | N/A | N/A | N/A |
FA Cup losing finalists |
Empty | LC | Empty | Empty | Empty | Empty | LC | N/A | N/A |
League Cup winners |
EL3 | EL3 | EL3 | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | EL3 | N/A |
Key | |
---|---|
CW | Cup winners (Automatically assigned as EL1) |
LC | Losing cup finalists |
EL1 | First spot of Europa League (Play-off round) |
EL2 | Second spot of Europa League (Play-off round) |
EL3 | Third spot of Europa League (Third qualifying round) |
Also, the LC spot will be shifted when they finish 5th in Premier League. Raymond Giggs 11:17, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
(Indent moved back for readability purposes) Before you continue battling over hypothetical assumptions, just stick to the facts:
Since none of the FA Cup semifinalists have mathematically secured a top-5 placement yet (and this will definitely not happen before the FA Cup semifinals have been played), the basic configuration is still intact. Hence it is too early to tell if the sixth and seventh place qualify for Europe and if so, for which round. So please try to remain calm for another ten days until the cup finalists are known. By then, possible scenarios can be sorted out much easier than they can be now. -- Soccer-holic I hear voices in my head... 14:12, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Can someone web slice the score table. As for how to do this, please take a look at the following link (under 6. Teams and Standings) where the score table is web sliced. You will need IE8 to test out the web slice functionality. Sorry about the crude comment. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPL_2 -- by 210.211.129.115 ( talk) 22:46, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
There is a discrepancy on the goals scored by Robinho and Darren Bent at least. For example, BBC, soccerbase.com and football365.com showed 12 from Robinho and 11 from Bent, while both the official site and the goal.com cut one from each player. I don't get the source of difference. Anyone could tell? Aa4 ( talk) 03:28, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Now given the situation is:
Now I'd like you to think. Did Premier League have any direct connection other than promotion-relegation relationship with The Football League since 1992? Please compare (not refer) to the European Cup (UEFA Champions League) before discussing. Raymond Giggs 12:10, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
User:Ief has re-inserted a full Standings-by-Round table. Such a thing was rejected earlier this year upon the reason that there is no concept of rounds in English football. Is this still a community consensus or have minds changed in the meantime?
In any case, the official website of the EPL has decided to feature those tables (see here, here and here for examples). Any matches played in mid-week, unless they comprise a full matchday, are added to the standings of the following week.
Note that this is not a vow for "include" or "not include" since I am still uncertain to remove the SbR or not as well. Take the input rather as a starting point for another discussion. -- Soccer-holic I hear voices in my head... 08:25, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
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