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I removed the TOC right alignment because the text involving the teams got all mixed up with the TOC. It may just be my resolution or something, but its better to just have it the normal way to avoid this type of thing. Cheers. Cvene64 13:56, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Could someone please try and create a map of France with the cities marked out that are hosting? Wales and Scotland could also be represented in the image, on a seperate box to the side. Anyone want to have a go? Cvene64 14:38, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Someone changed the location of the Stade de France matches from St Denis to Paris, though it was reverted as vandalism. I actually think it would be better to have it as Paris though. As far as I know St Denis is a suburb of Paris yeah? A lot of people would not realise this, so I think having Paris works better imo. The venue was also used at the 1998 FIFA World Cup, and is written as Paris there. Cvene64 04:34, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
The Rugby 07 template does not seem to show up (at all) unless I expand the other ones...does anyone else have this problem? Cvene64 04:31, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
1999-10-01 |
Wales ![]() | 23–18 | ![]() |
Tries:
Colin Charvis,
Mark Taylor Con: Neil Jenkins (2) Pen: Neil Jenkins (3) | Pen: Gonzalo Quesada (6) |
Millennium Stadium Referee: Paddy O'Brian ![]() |
2003-10-10 |
Australia ![]() | 24–8 | ![]() |
Tries:
Wendell Sailor,
Joe Roff Con: Elton Flatley Pen: Elton Flatley (4) | Tries:
Ignacio Corleto Pen: Manuel Contepomi |
Telstra Stadium Attendance: 81,350 Referee: Paul Honiss ![]() |
Anyone know why it has been the Pumas 3 times in a row? Is it something to do with Americas seeding or something..? Narrasawa 09:11, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
I think Pools and that should be in alphabetical order, not in order of who is assumed to be on top or something like that. Goldman07 03:08, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't think we should have this incomplete section on broadcasting, as it is pretty misleading (see above) until it is comprehensive. It would be better off on List of 2007 Rugby World Cup broadcasters where it can be referenced and expanded. I'm going to take it out again until we officially discuss it! Goldman07 15:21, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
What about this site? http://www.rugbytvschedule.co.uk/schedule.php it has the time and channel for UK terrestrial (and freeview) viewing? This is one of my first edits, sorry if I'm not following protocol! Topcat31 - 16.56 30th Aug —Preceding unsigned comment added by Topcat31 ( talk • contribs) 15:56, August 30, 2007 (UTC)
We should think about this a little more. Are you sure the way I put if effected the load time at all? Although your solution works here, it puts a lot of other pages out of sync. For example, if we do it your way, we need to change the px size on the other 80 or so templates, as at present, the only templates with updated px sizes are the 20 2007 RWC teams, so it will look really weird everywhere else... Goldman07 05:34, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
anyone know if the TMO's are being chosen from the pool of touch judges? if so, we should reflcet this in the heading Goldfinger820 00:07, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
hi folks - i removed the 'this article is about a future sporting event or team, and may contain speculation and info. that changes etc. etc.' template because;
and that's why i removed it! - thoughts? - Purples 06:20, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Without implying anything about the quality of the current version of the article, it is clearly not going to be stable in a period when the competition itself is about to start. I am therefore failing the nomination on the ground that the article does not meet the stability requirement.-- Peter cohen 20:10, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Can I suggest that we create individual articles for each of the Pools? That would allow us to follow the example of 2006 Tri Nations Series and show the line-ups for each team. - PeeJay 19:50, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
How much nations did participate? -- 130.89.237.97 18:07, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Once the article is updated when the game is over would the first person that can please post something at Template talk:In the news and Portal:Current events. This news should be on the main page. The most common argument for rarely ever putting rugby union related news on the "in the news" template has been that it's not the sports major international tournament/competition. Well this is it, so it should be there! - Shudde talk 09:56, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Where are the attendance results ? We can read in the article :
It looks like the only sourced attendance result comes from scrum.com ; rugbyworldcup.com has nothing at all, so where does scrum.com take their sources? 82.240.207.81 10:34, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Is this section really encyclopaedic? Many articles, including Premier League 2007-08 and UEFA Champions League 2007-08 have had similar sections removed on the grounds of it not being encyclopaedic enough. So should we remove this section from this article? - PeeJay 10:53, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I have added the most recent scores to the news section of Portal:Rugby Union. If someone could update that as scores are added to the article that would be great. Thanks. - Shudde talk 00:32, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
It's since been adjusted anyway, but if it was going to be "it is hosted by France" (I still think it should be "it is being hosted by France", just because afterwards we will say "it was hosted by France" doesn't mean "it is hosted by France" is applicable during the event), then by the same reasoning the last line of the first paragraph should say "Forty-two matches are played" rather than "Forty-two matches are being played". Just a thought. - JCIACHNE 12:27, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
can someone edit template: rugbybox so we can add a line for cards given during a game? Goldfinger820 22:34, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Could anyone perhaps make the infobox a bit wider? Percy Montgomery's name isn't on the same line as the South Africa flag next to it, and it looks a bit odd. - PeeJay 23:30, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
I would like to propose that all players' names are piped to display their names as given on rugbyworldcup.com. I know I've been doing this already, but recently User:Dale Arnett and User:Montchav changed the name of the Argentinian winger Federico Martin Aramburu (as given on rugbyworldcup.com) to Federico Martín Aramburú (as given on the UAR) website). Now, in the player's article, I would agree with that, but as we're doing a Rugby World Cup article, I believe we should be displaying the name that was registered with the IRB for the tournament. I'd like to hear others' thoughts on this before starting an edit war. - PeeJay 11:30, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
France national rugby union team will be Todays Featured Article on September 16. This is great because there was a refusal to put anything about the RWC in the current events template (despite other sporting events having had it done in the past). Anyway the point is be on the look out for vandalism, as many RWC related pages are going to get an increase in traffic. - Shudde talk 23:42, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
I was curious to know whether a schedule by date should be set up for the Rugby World Cup? A bit like what was done for the Soccer World Cup? Thanks Lummie 15:16, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Will any part of the Rugby World Cup be broadcasted in the United States, and if so, by what broadcaster (ESPN, Fox Soccer Channel?) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.112.32.48 ( talk • contribs) 02:29, 3 December 2006 (UTC).
I have moved the section to here. Until the section is complete, it is totally misleading, and is useles until then. Narrasawa 08:44, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
- United Kingdom - As usual, ITV have the rights for all live matches and highlights packages. The Rugby World Cup is a listed event and is thus restricted by law to free-to-air television, although many 'minor' matches are likely to be shown on digital-only channels ITV2 and ITV4.
- Australia - The World Cup will be covered by Network Ten, who acquired the rights from Channel Seven in 2005.
- New Zealand - All matches will be on the free to air network TV3. This is the first time TV3 has secured the New Zealand broadcasting rights, with TVNZ having held the rights since 1987.
Just wondering in the 'top ten point scorers' and 'top ten try scorers' tables, what does 'Apps' stand for? Im guessing by the numbers that it is the amount of games each player has played. With the rest, Pos, Con, Pen etc would it be a good idea to have a key underneath the tables to indicate what each of these stand for? Cstubbies 17:51, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Can the teams which are sure to advance/will advance by highlighted or at least have a green bar? -- Howard the Duck 08:06, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
I think we should try and display the teams section in a better way, as in its current state it looks really akward because of how many European teams there are, and the restrictions on each column. Maybe it could be ordered like this this one, and have a number of options like IRB ranking at the start of the World Cup, previous app, best result, how they qualified, pool, etc etc...Thoughts? Cvene64 15:32, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Continent | Qualified countries |
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Africa |
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Americas |
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Asia |
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Europe | |
Oceania |
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That looks a lot better imo. It would work a lot better than what we currently have. Cvene64 14:53, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
Except for the part where you imply that Oceania is a continent. Oceania is a geographic region and nothing more. It is usefull in maping out sporting regions but that doesn't make it a continent. Far Queue 00:33, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
The professional sports media such as BBC Sports and Rugby Heaven seem slow to pick on the fact that the Pool A, B and C winners were decided at the weekend as a consequence of the head-to-head results rule in determining rank for teams on the same number of points. For instance, at present their websites don't yet show RSA, NZ and Aus listed in the Quarter Final fixtures. Another example of Wikipedia's superiority. Rexparry sydney 01:59, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Call me devil's advocate here but what happens if New Zealand don't get to the semis? Saying they won't reach the quarters is unthinkable but a one-off quarter final could throw up a surprise. Anyway, if this happens does one of the semi finalists then lose their seeding, or would NZ host the tournament unseeded? 82.13.151.148 19:25, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
If Ireland, France, and Argentina all finish level at 14 points, what would be the deciding tie-breaker. Each would have defeated and been defeated by one of the others, so head-to-head wouldn't work. Would the next tie-breaker be points for minus against in the entire pool, or would they first look at the for/against between the three teams? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alanmjohnson ( talk • contribs) 05:49, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone know the best way to deal with the recent juvenile vandalism on this page? DerbyCountyinNZ 06:25, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Is this article being written for the convenience of Americans? It looks that way, as U.S. date formats are used. How about treating this as a Commonwealth English article, and putting the people who are actually interested first, instead of kow-towing to the Yanks? Postlebury 19:20, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
See the following guidelines about dates: Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)#Dates. It mentions the fact that the YYYY-MM-DD format (ISO format) is acceptable and useful in cases such as tables where space and clutter are important factors. -- Deon Steyn 07:18, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
do we have something similar to what the football people have to show a penaly shootout for the possibility of deciding k/o games with a place kicking competition? see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_FIFA_World_Cup#Quarter-finals England v Portugal. would be nice to show it pictorially if it eventuates Goldfinger820 02:33, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Too much of this seems like POV. DerbyCountyinNZ 23:48, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Can someone translate the following on the article page into English. I cannot work out what it is trying to say. "but it was confirmed in April 2006 that Scotland would be hosting the games after the same as those used for the 1998 FIFA World Cup." -- SGBailey 07:47, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
anyone think it's worth mentioning the jersery controversy with the NZL/FRA/SCO strips? Goldfinger820 22:32, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
see: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/4/story.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10468372 http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/4/story.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10468401 http://www.rugbyheaven.co.nz/4213182a22430.html http://www.sportingo.com/rugby/rugby_world_cup_all_blacks/1001,5065
the IRB even asked the all blacks to change their strip in the halftime break during the scotland game - they couldn't provide an alternative http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/4/story.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10468353 seems reasonably controversial to me..................
Goldfinger820 23:36, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Guys, the information posted on this page does not match the one here: http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/home/fixtures/knockout.html Look at the scheme at the bottom of the RWC page, which shows the winner of NZL-FRA playing against the winner of ARG-SCO, instead of AUS-ENG. I believe Wikipedia is right, and RWC is wrong, but could someone please double check this? --AG 20:38, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
I've been the only one to create these lineup images so far. I'm definitely willing to create some more, but it's going to be a huge amount of work for me to create all 48! If someone could please help this would be great, otherwise it may be some time before they are all done. For anyone who wants to help i've been using Inkscape and creating the files in svg format. The lineups that have currently been completed can be found at Category:2007 Rugby World Cup on WikiCommons, and the blank svg lineup image here. I would really appreciate some help with this, thanks. - Shudde talk 00:41, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Guys, you're doing a great work! Pools pages are wonderful, lineups are really stylish and clear...It's great, really. I like it, indeed. Congratulations. -- necronudist 15:30, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
I have uploaded Image:2007 RWC blank lineup.svg which contains (hidden) jerseys of all participating nations, for the ease of future lineups creation. Conscious 09:41, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
I think there is a lot of news and talk about controversies during the world cup. The three I'm thinking of being the refereeing (see here), the citing process (which is currently mentioned in the article), and the jersey's (see above). I think we should consider having a section on this, with the three relevant subsections. Probably shouldn't be worried about until the tournament is over, but the risk is that there will be lots of content forking into other articles if it's not included in this one. - Shudde talk 02:26, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
I suggest that we remove the match summaries from the pool stage and replace them with a better quality results grid than the ones currently attached to the pool tables. We could even do the same for the knockout matches if necessary. I just think this article would be better off as an overview of the tournament, with the details going in the separate pool and knockout stage articles, as they are already. - PeeJay 22:29, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone know what the music is that is played in the stadium as the teams run out? I only noticed it tonight during France-Ireland, but it was fantastic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.176.32.248 ( talk) 21:11, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Where can I watch on TV? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.189.13.154 ( talk) 21:45, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
I am almost certain that the song which plays when the teams run out is from a Jean Michel Jarre album "The Symphonic Jean Michel Jarre", disc 1, track 11 "Industrial Revolution - Part 2". It's quite bizzare that I know this, as I'm not really a fan, it just happened to be the only album by him that I have heard :-) This music is different from the (pretty yucky) variation of the Holst tune played to introduce the TV programmes themselves. Le the 16:43, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone know the short 'trumpet fanfare' music played in the stadium afer each try? It sounds Spanish/Mexican and is followed by the response "Ole!" from the crowd. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.43.133.50 ( talk) 16:02, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Does anybody know why matches are being played at Millennium and Murrrayfield (were also offered to Lansdowne), but Twickers is not hosting any games at all? Does anyone know if the RFU wanted any or were offered any or anything...? Wkto guy 16:59, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
France used the offer (bribe?) of home matches to Wales, Ireland and Scotland in return for votes for their overall scheme. As England were the competing scheme they were not involved in this deal. This is one aspect of the arrangements for this world cup that were not 'optimal'. As stated in the main page, Ireland then declined due to the rebuilding of the Landsdowne Road stadium. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.74.133.126 ( talk) 10:05, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
is it possible to use the four provinces flag for Ireland rather than the clover?
Rowlan
03:06, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
The clover is also the internatinonally recognised symbol for Irish Rugby. They may even have it copyrighted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.74.133.126 ( talk) 10:08, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Should Irish refs have the rugby flag or the national flag? It seams to me that they should have the national flag because they are (I assume) citizens of Ireland. Then again, I don't know why the national flag isn't used in all cases. Are some of the players or refs North Irish? That is the only reason I could think of. Rugbyhelp 03:22, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
The rugby team and the refs all fall under the IRFU, so I would have thought that the IRFU flag should be used. Image:Ireland_rugby.png Buceph Haelez 03:51, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
I was checking out he IRB rankings [3] and I noticed that the flag they use for Ireland is quite different to anything that we are using (it's hard to see cos it's very small but it's mostly green with symbols in the corners). Considering that it is the IRB, isnt it likely that they are using the most appropriate flag? If this weren't so, Im sure the Irish Union would have sent on their complaints! GringoInChile 06:12, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
As I write this, at 1715 BST, about 165 minutes before the final kicks off, the last 30 edits to this article have comprised vandalism and reversions, with no constructive edits since PeeJay2K3 updated after the Bronze Final. Can I suggest that we semi-protect this article to prevent the anons from continuing to vandalise? -- Arwel ( talk) 16:18, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes, French (and Central European) time, CEST. Conscious 17:25, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Although I wanted Argentina to beat SAfrica, I think Brian Habana's grubber kick into try might be the most picturesque try of the whole series if not history (Superman over the opponent). I doubt we can get a picture of it for the article, but if we could that would be one to put in the article somewhere. In the meantime, does anyone know where I can find a decent shot of it, I want to use it for my desktop background (edited of course to have me with my team's jersey on) Billy Nair 22:49, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Is it possible to change the pool tables so they appear finishing order (from first to 5th) rather than in alphabetical order. Would make it slightly easier to follow I think. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Simonwoodnz ( talk • contribs)
It seems that the pages linking to the match reports are no longer valid, the rugbyworldcup domain gearing up for 2011 - any ideas for suitable replacements? 78.151.212.201 ( talk) 20:15, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
To stop this pingpong, Saint Denis is not a suburb of Paris but a commune in the suburbs of Paris. This is not just the position of myself and Peejay, the rugby world cup themselves cite Saint Denis as town and the location of the final, see here and most of the main stream journals cited the final as being Saint Denis. Parc des Princes is Paris, and Stade de France is Saint Denis.
Though we cannot self reference, from the Stade de France article "The Stade de France (French pronunciation: [stad də fʁɑ̃s]) is the national stadium of France, situated in the Parisian suburb of Saint-Denis." and from the Saint Denis article "Saint-Denis (French pronunciation: [sɛ̃ dəni]) is a commune in the northern suburbs of Paris, France. It is located 9.4 km (5.8 mi) from the centre of Paris. Saint-Denis is a sous-préfecture of the Seine-Saint-Denis département, being the seat of the Arrondissement of Saint-Denis." it is an entity in it's own right and not part of Paris.
If we look at the Paris article "The 80,000-seat Stade de France, built for the 1998 FIFA World Cup, is located in Saint-Denis."
To finish Paris is Departement 75, Saint Denis though an arrondisement of Paris is Departement 93 Seine-Saint-Denis, just because something is known a suburb of does not necessarily mean that it is a part of. Cheers Khu kri 10:01, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
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I removed the TOC right alignment because the text involving the teams got all mixed up with the TOC. It may just be my resolution or something, but its better to just have it the normal way to avoid this type of thing. Cheers. Cvene64 13:56, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Could someone please try and create a map of France with the cities marked out that are hosting? Wales and Scotland could also be represented in the image, on a seperate box to the side. Anyone want to have a go? Cvene64 14:38, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Someone changed the location of the Stade de France matches from St Denis to Paris, though it was reverted as vandalism. I actually think it would be better to have it as Paris though. As far as I know St Denis is a suburb of Paris yeah? A lot of people would not realise this, so I think having Paris works better imo. The venue was also used at the 1998 FIFA World Cup, and is written as Paris there. Cvene64 04:34, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
The Rugby 07 template does not seem to show up (at all) unless I expand the other ones...does anyone else have this problem? Cvene64 04:31, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
1999-10-01 |
Wales ![]() | 23–18 | ![]() |
Tries:
Colin Charvis,
Mark Taylor Con: Neil Jenkins (2) Pen: Neil Jenkins (3) | Pen: Gonzalo Quesada (6) |
Millennium Stadium Referee: Paddy O'Brian ![]() |
2003-10-10 |
Australia ![]() | 24–8 | ![]() |
Tries:
Wendell Sailor,
Joe Roff Con: Elton Flatley Pen: Elton Flatley (4) | Tries:
Ignacio Corleto Pen: Manuel Contepomi |
Telstra Stadium Attendance: 81,350 Referee: Paul Honiss ![]() |
Anyone know why it has been the Pumas 3 times in a row? Is it something to do with Americas seeding or something..? Narrasawa 09:11, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
I think Pools and that should be in alphabetical order, not in order of who is assumed to be on top or something like that. Goldman07 03:08, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't think we should have this incomplete section on broadcasting, as it is pretty misleading (see above) until it is comprehensive. It would be better off on List of 2007 Rugby World Cup broadcasters where it can be referenced and expanded. I'm going to take it out again until we officially discuss it! Goldman07 15:21, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
What about this site? http://www.rugbytvschedule.co.uk/schedule.php it has the time and channel for UK terrestrial (and freeview) viewing? This is one of my first edits, sorry if I'm not following protocol! Topcat31 - 16.56 30th Aug —Preceding unsigned comment added by Topcat31 ( talk • contribs) 15:56, August 30, 2007 (UTC)
We should think about this a little more. Are you sure the way I put if effected the load time at all? Although your solution works here, it puts a lot of other pages out of sync. For example, if we do it your way, we need to change the px size on the other 80 or so templates, as at present, the only templates with updated px sizes are the 20 2007 RWC teams, so it will look really weird everywhere else... Goldman07 05:34, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
anyone know if the TMO's are being chosen from the pool of touch judges? if so, we should reflcet this in the heading Goldfinger820 00:07, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
hi folks - i removed the 'this article is about a future sporting event or team, and may contain speculation and info. that changes etc. etc.' template because;
and that's why i removed it! - thoughts? - Purples 06:20, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Without implying anything about the quality of the current version of the article, it is clearly not going to be stable in a period when the competition itself is about to start. I am therefore failing the nomination on the ground that the article does not meet the stability requirement.-- Peter cohen 20:10, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Can I suggest that we create individual articles for each of the Pools? That would allow us to follow the example of 2006 Tri Nations Series and show the line-ups for each team. - PeeJay 19:50, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
How much nations did participate? -- 130.89.237.97 18:07, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Once the article is updated when the game is over would the first person that can please post something at Template talk:In the news and Portal:Current events. This news should be on the main page. The most common argument for rarely ever putting rugby union related news on the "in the news" template has been that it's not the sports major international tournament/competition. Well this is it, so it should be there! - Shudde talk 09:56, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Where are the attendance results ? We can read in the article :
It looks like the only sourced attendance result comes from scrum.com ; rugbyworldcup.com has nothing at all, so where does scrum.com take their sources? 82.240.207.81 10:34, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Is this section really encyclopaedic? Many articles, including Premier League 2007-08 and UEFA Champions League 2007-08 have had similar sections removed on the grounds of it not being encyclopaedic enough. So should we remove this section from this article? - PeeJay 10:53, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I have added the most recent scores to the news section of Portal:Rugby Union. If someone could update that as scores are added to the article that would be great. Thanks. - Shudde talk 00:32, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
It's since been adjusted anyway, but if it was going to be "it is hosted by France" (I still think it should be "it is being hosted by France", just because afterwards we will say "it was hosted by France" doesn't mean "it is hosted by France" is applicable during the event), then by the same reasoning the last line of the first paragraph should say "Forty-two matches are played" rather than "Forty-two matches are being played". Just a thought. - JCIACHNE 12:27, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
can someone edit template: rugbybox so we can add a line for cards given during a game? Goldfinger820 22:34, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Could anyone perhaps make the infobox a bit wider? Percy Montgomery's name isn't on the same line as the South Africa flag next to it, and it looks a bit odd. - PeeJay 23:30, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
I would like to propose that all players' names are piped to display their names as given on rugbyworldcup.com. I know I've been doing this already, but recently User:Dale Arnett and User:Montchav changed the name of the Argentinian winger Federico Martin Aramburu (as given on rugbyworldcup.com) to Federico Martín Aramburú (as given on the UAR) website). Now, in the player's article, I would agree with that, but as we're doing a Rugby World Cup article, I believe we should be displaying the name that was registered with the IRB for the tournament. I'd like to hear others' thoughts on this before starting an edit war. - PeeJay 11:30, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
France national rugby union team will be Todays Featured Article on September 16. This is great because there was a refusal to put anything about the RWC in the current events template (despite other sporting events having had it done in the past). Anyway the point is be on the look out for vandalism, as many RWC related pages are going to get an increase in traffic. - Shudde talk 23:42, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
I was curious to know whether a schedule by date should be set up for the Rugby World Cup? A bit like what was done for the Soccer World Cup? Thanks Lummie 15:16, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Will any part of the Rugby World Cup be broadcasted in the United States, and if so, by what broadcaster (ESPN, Fox Soccer Channel?) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.112.32.48 ( talk • contribs) 02:29, 3 December 2006 (UTC).
I have moved the section to here. Until the section is complete, it is totally misleading, and is useles until then. Narrasawa 08:44, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
- United Kingdom - As usual, ITV have the rights for all live matches and highlights packages. The Rugby World Cup is a listed event and is thus restricted by law to free-to-air television, although many 'minor' matches are likely to be shown on digital-only channels ITV2 and ITV4.
- Australia - The World Cup will be covered by Network Ten, who acquired the rights from Channel Seven in 2005.
- New Zealand - All matches will be on the free to air network TV3. This is the first time TV3 has secured the New Zealand broadcasting rights, with TVNZ having held the rights since 1987.
Just wondering in the 'top ten point scorers' and 'top ten try scorers' tables, what does 'Apps' stand for? Im guessing by the numbers that it is the amount of games each player has played. With the rest, Pos, Con, Pen etc would it be a good idea to have a key underneath the tables to indicate what each of these stand for? Cstubbies 17:51, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Can the teams which are sure to advance/will advance by highlighted or at least have a green bar? -- Howard the Duck 08:06, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
I think we should try and display the teams section in a better way, as in its current state it looks really akward because of how many European teams there are, and the restrictions on each column. Maybe it could be ordered like this this one, and have a number of options like IRB ranking at the start of the World Cup, previous app, best result, how they qualified, pool, etc etc...Thoughts? Cvene64 15:32, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Continent | Qualified countries |
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Oceania |
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That looks a lot better imo. It would work a lot better than what we currently have. Cvene64 14:53, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
Except for the part where you imply that Oceania is a continent. Oceania is a geographic region and nothing more. It is usefull in maping out sporting regions but that doesn't make it a continent. Far Queue 00:33, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
The professional sports media such as BBC Sports and Rugby Heaven seem slow to pick on the fact that the Pool A, B and C winners were decided at the weekend as a consequence of the head-to-head results rule in determining rank for teams on the same number of points. For instance, at present their websites don't yet show RSA, NZ and Aus listed in the Quarter Final fixtures. Another example of Wikipedia's superiority. Rexparry sydney 01:59, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Call me devil's advocate here but what happens if New Zealand don't get to the semis? Saying they won't reach the quarters is unthinkable but a one-off quarter final could throw up a surprise. Anyway, if this happens does one of the semi finalists then lose their seeding, or would NZ host the tournament unseeded? 82.13.151.148 19:25, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
If Ireland, France, and Argentina all finish level at 14 points, what would be the deciding tie-breaker. Each would have defeated and been defeated by one of the others, so head-to-head wouldn't work. Would the next tie-breaker be points for minus against in the entire pool, or would they first look at the for/against between the three teams? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alanmjohnson ( talk • contribs) 05:49, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone know the best way to deal with the recent juvenile vandalism on this page? DerbyCountyinNZ 06:25, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Is this article being written for the convenience of Americans? It looks that way, as U.S. date formats are used. How about treating this as a Commonwealth English article, and putting the people who are actually interested first, instead of kow-towing to the Yanks? Postlebury 19:20, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
See the following guidelines about dates: Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)#Dates. It mentions the fact that the YYYY-MM-DD format (ISO format) is acceptable and useful in cases such as tables where space and clutter are important factors. -- Deon Steyn 07:18, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
do we have something similar to what the football people have to show a penaly shootout for the possibility of deciding k/o games with a place kicking competition? see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_FIFA_World_Cup#Quarter-finals England v Portugal. would be nice to show it pictorially if it eventuates Goldfinger820 02:33, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Too much of this seems like POV. DerbyCountyinNZ 23:48, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Can someone translate the following on the article page into English. I cannot work out what it is trying to say. "but it was confirmed in April 2006 that Scotland would be hosting the games after the same as those used for the 1998 FIFA World Cup." -- SGBailey 07:47, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
anyone think it's worth mentioning the jersery controversy with the NZL/FRA/SCO strips? Goldfinger820 22:32, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
see: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/4/story.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10468372 http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/4/story.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10468401 http://www.rugbyheaven.co.nz/4213182a22430.html http://www.sportingo.com/rugby/rugby_world_cup_all_blacks/1001,5065
the IRB even asked the all blacks to change their strip in the halftime break during the scotland game - they couldn't provide an alternative http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/4/story.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10468353 seems reasonably controversial to me..................
Goldfinger820 23:36, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Guys, the information posted on this page does not match the one here: http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/home/fixtures/knockout.html Look at the scheme at the bottom of the RWC page, which shows the winner of NZL-FRA playing against the winner of ARG-SCO, instead of AUS-ENG. I believe Wikipedia is right, and RWC is wrong, but could someone please double check this? --AG 20:38, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
I've been the only one to create these lineup images so far. I'm definitely willing to create some more, but it's going to be a huge amount of work for me to create all 48! If someone could please help this would be great, otherwise it may be some time before they are all done. For anyone who wants to help i've been using Inkscape and creating the files in svg format. The lineups that have currently been completed can be found at Category:2007 Rugby World Cup on WikiCommons, and the blank svg lineup image here. I would really appreciate some help with this, thanks. - Shudde talk 00:41, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Guys, you're doing a great work! Pools pages are wonderful, lineups are really stylish and clear...It's great, really. I like it, indeed. Congratulations. -- necronudist 15:30, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
I have uploaded Image:2007 RWC blank lineup.svg which contains (hidden) jerseys of all participating nations, for the ease of future lineups creation. Conscious 09:41, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
I think there is a lot of news and talk about controversies during the world cup. The three I'm thinking of being the refereeing (see here), the citing process (which is currently mentioned in the article), and the jersey's (see above). I think we should consider having a section on this, with the three relevant subsections. Probably shouldn't be worried about until the tournament is over, but the risk is that there will be lots of content forking into other articles if it's not included in this one. - Shudde talk 02:26, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
I suggest that we remove the match summaries from the pool stage and replace them with a better quality results grid than the ones currently attached to the pool tables. We could even do the same for the knockout matches if necessary. I just think this article would be better off as an overview of the tournament, with the details going in the separate pool and knockout stage articles, as they are already. - PeeJay 22:29, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone know what the music is that is played in the stadium as the teams run out? I only noticed it tonight during France-Ireland, but it was fantastic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.176.32.248 ( talk) 21:11, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Where can I watch on TV? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.189.13.154 ( talk) 21:45, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
I am almost certain that the song which plays when the teams run out is from a Jean Michel Jarre album "The Symphonic Jean Michel Jarre", disc 1, track 11 "Industrial Revolution - Part 2". It's quite bizzare that I know this, as I'm not really a fan, it just happened to be the only album by him that I have heard :-) This music is different from the (pretty yucky) variation of the Holst tune played to introduce the TV programmes themselves. Le the 16:43, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone know the short 'trumpet fanfare' music played in the stadium afer each try? It sounds Spanish/Mexican and is followed by the response "Ole!" from the crowd. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.43.133.50 ( talk) 16:02, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Does anybody know why matches are being played at Millennium and Murrrayfield (were also offered to Lansdowne), but Twickers is not hosting any games at all? Does anyone know if the RFU wanted any or were offered any or anything...? Wkto guy 16:59, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
France used the offer (bribe?) of home matches to Wales, Ireland and Scotland in return for votes for their overall scheme. As England were the competing scheme they were not involved in this deal. This is one aspect of the arrangements for this world cup that were not 'optimal'. As stated in the main page, Ireland then declined due to the rebuilding of the Landsdowne Road stadium. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.74.133.126 ( talk) 10:05, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
is it possible to use the four provinces flag for Ireland rather than the clover?
Rowlan
03:06, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
The clover is also the internatinonally recognised symbol for Irish Rugby. They may even have it copyrighted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.74.133.126 ( talk) 10:08, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Should Irish refs have the rugby flag or the national flag? It seams to me that they should have the national flag because they are (I assume) citizens of Ireland. Then again, I don't know why the national flag isn't used in all cases. Are some of the players or refs North Irish? That is the only reason I could think of. Rugbyhelp 03:22, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
The rugby team and the refs all fall under the IRFU, so I would have thought that the IRFU flag should be used. Image:Ireland_rugby.png Buceph Haelez 03:51, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
I was checking out he IRB rankings [3] and I noticed that the flag they use for Ireland is quite different to anything that we are using (it's hard to see cos it's very small but it's mostly green with symbols in the corners). Considering that it is the IRB, isnt it likely that they are using the most appropriate flag? If this weren't so, Im sure the Irish Union would have sent on their complaints! GringoInChile 06:12, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
As I write this, at 1715 BST, about 165 minutes before the final kicks off, the last 30 edits to this article have comprised vandalism and reversions, with no constructive edits since PeeJay2K3 updated after the Bronze Final. Can I suggest that we semi-protect this article to prevent the anons from continuing to vandalise? -- Arwel ( talk) 16:18, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes, French (and Central European) time, CEST. Conscious 17:25, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Although I wanted Argentina to beat SAfrica, I think Brian Habana's grubber kick into try might be the most picturesque try of the whole series if not history (Superman over the opponent). I doubt we can get a picture of it for the article, but if we could that would be one to put in the article somewhere. In the meantime, does anyone know where I can find a decent shot of it, I want to use it for my desktop background (edited of course to have me with my team's jersey on) Billy Nair 22:49, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Is it possible to change the pool tables so they appear finishing order (from first to 5th) rather than in alphabetical order. Would make it slightly easier to follow I think. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Simonwoodnz ( talk • contribs)
It seems that the pages linking to the match reports are no longer valid, the rugbyworldcup domain gearing up for 2011 - any ideas for suitable replacements? 78.151.212.201 ( talk) 20:15, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
To stop this pingpong, Saint Denis is not a suburb of Paris but a commune in the suburbs of Paris. This is not just the position of myself and Peejay, the rugby world cup themselves cite Saint Denis as town and the location of the final, see here and most of the main stream journals cited the final as being Saint Denis. Parc des Princes is Paris, and Stade de France is Saint Denis.
Though we cannot self reference, from the Stade de France article "The Stade de France (French pronunciation: [stad də fʁɑ̃s]) is the national stadium of France, situated in the Parisian suburb of Saint-Denis." and from the Saint Denis article "Saint-Denis (French pronunciation: [sɛ̃ dəni]) is a commune in the northern suburbs of Paris, France. It is located 9.4 km (5.8 mi) from the centre of Paris. Saint-Denis is a sous-préfecture of the Seine-Saint-Denis département, being the seat of the Arrondissement of Saint-Denis." it is an entity in it's own right and not part of Paris.
If we look at the Paris article "The 80,000-seat Stade de France, built for the 1998 FIFA World Cup, is located in Saint-Denis."
To finish Paris is Departement 75, Saint Denis though an arrondisement of Paris is Departement 93 Seine-Saint-Denis, just because something is known a suburb of does not necessarily mean that it is a part of. Cheers Khu kri 10:01, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
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