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Any objections to me moving this article to 2007 North Indian Ocean cyclone season, a la the South-West Indian Ocean season articles? It would reduce ambiguity, since "North Indian" could refer to a part of India and not the ocean. -- Core desat 04:26, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Should we, per last season, limit inclusion of storms to just those of at least deep depression strength? Depressions should only qualify if they cause a lot of damage and casualties, since depressions are generally weak (T1.5 or less) and would not qualify as a "tropical cyclone" per se. – Chacor 11:00, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
IMD classifies depression as tropical cyclones in their statistics. These systems usually have 10 minute mean wind speed of 20-25kt, corresponding to 1 minute mean wind speed around 25-30kt. A deep depression (30kt, 10min. average) is already close to a tropical storm in Atlantic. If depression is not notable enough, should all tropical depressions with little damage in Atlantic be dropped as well? Momoko 13:42, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
In meteorology, a depression is used as a general term for low pressure system and can refer to system below tropical cyclone intensity and even non-tropical system.
However, the use of this term in the operational plan is much stricter.
A system with a 15 kt max wind is a well marked low only)
Dropping the term 'tropical' is for simplicity only. A similar case is that we often refer a tropical cyclone as a cyclone in Australia but in meteorology, a cyclone can refer to a low pressure system other than tropical cyclone.
If you say that it's a bloody tropical disturbance, why was NRL stating 25kt? Why did come agencies analyse it as T1.5? This system is already at the borderline of a TD. Momoko 16:09, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi, just drawing attention to Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Tropical cyclone discussion archives. Up for deletion are all the archives of discussion about tropical cyclones on the seasonal pages, as opposed to the archives of Wikipedia-related discussion. See the nomination for the rationale for deletion. The thoughts of contributors here be appreciated on the discussion.-- Nilf anion ( talk) 21:22, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
One line extract from IMD press release dated 6th August 2007 for mid-season review of Southwest Monsoon 2007 mentions "This low pressure area intensified subsequently into a cyclonic storm `Yemyin’ over the North Arabian Sea (25th – 26th June) and crossed Pakistan coast." [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ugaap ( talk • contribs)
This updated IMD report also lists BOB 03 as Yemyin. Hurricanehink ( talk) 03:02, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
As per JTWC regenerated 03B.NONAME had best status of 60 knots & 978 mb. while RSMC New Delhi (BOB 03) had it as Deep Depression indicating maximum winds of 33 knots. Could there be such a vast difference between one minute wind speed and ten minute wind speed for a very long period?-- Ugaap 05:21, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
RSMC New Delhi bulletin issued by IMD on 29 October 2007 at 600 UTC has been given for next 24 hours instead of for shorter duration even though there is an active deep depression in the Arabian Sea. Also none of the RSMC bulletin has ARB number. What is the difference between the Bulletins of Cyclone Warning For Indian Coast and that of RMSC? IMD bulletins 7 & 8 are from the link to Cyclone Warning For Indian Coast and not from RSMC Bulletin.-- Ugaap 15:08, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
The old IMD advisories used to be posted here, but got suddenly replaced by a TWO yesterday. Now, the advisories are found here. We assume that the Arabian Sea Deep Depression is ARB 02 because Cyclone Akash, the last cyclone in the Arabian Sea, was ARB 01. -- RattleMan 17:52, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
I think they did that because BOB 08-2007 was more important since it was affecting land at the moment.. for the Arabian storm ID number it should be ARB 02-2007 even though the bulletin doesn't say it.
The Tropical Cyclone Outlooks are probably used since the storm is hardly moving or affecting land. So tropical cyclone warnings/bulletins aren't necessary yet. -- "VOFFA" 18:30 UTC 29 October, 2007.
Im a bit confused What do we need to Webcite for this page and how often do the products come out? Jason Rees 18:58, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Bulletin pertaining to BOB09 of 0900z (1430 IST) was available on IMD website too late-- Ugaap 15:32, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
As I stated in an above thread, the IMD has named BOB 09 Sidr. As such I've changed some things around to reflect the consequences of this - the Deep Depression BOB 03 section is now "Cyclonic Storm Yemyin", and the 03B article is now at Cyclone Yemyin. I may have missed some things, feel free to fix them if you see them. -- Core desat 06:56, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
For Example i have just looked at the shipping Forecast which is located Here which says that The next bullitten will be at about 1 am UTC Jason Rees 22:39, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
IMD has not been breaking the constraints on the Dvorak technique. As a result, IMD is not strengthening Sidr as fast as the JTWC has, and is essentially playing a long game of catch-up. Despite this problem, IMD is the official source for this basin, and its pressures must be used in the infobox at all times unless they become unavailable, even if it is an unreasonable number like 980 hPa. RSMC data always trumps JTWC data when it is available. -- Core desat 04:29, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
I just copied everything from the 2007 NIO article and I will expand it more this evening. I ask if anyone wants to add something, please do. User:CWY2190/06B 2007 --- CWY2190 T C 21:41, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
I just noticed this addition to their cyclone page [2]. Potapych ( talk) 14:08, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
Ive Asked for Webcite to do it and it should com up here if it is successfull IMD Cyclone Report be warned though it will take its time as it did with the End of monsoon report 2008 Jason Rees ( talk) 18:27, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
Why isn't there a season summary map for this year? You know, a chart of the storm tracks this year; why isn't one of those in the main infobox? 76.235.205.44 ( talk) 23:43, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh. I was just asking because for every season from 1990 or so to 2006, there is a map, and I was wondering about this season having one. 76.235.205.44 ( talk) 02:46, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
I really don't know why the season effects chart in this year is the one of 2008. If there is one, it should be from 2007, not 2008. Anyone agree? 76.236.178.224 ( talk) 20:10, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
I don't know if this should be mentioned, but this season had more category 5 storms than the western pacific basin. Should this be noted in the main article somewhere? It is the only time it ever happened before. 98.206.70.2 ( talk) 17:11, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
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Any objections to me moving this article to 2007 North Indian Ocean cyclone season, a la the South-West Indian Ocean season articles? It would reduce ambiguity, since "North Indian" could refer to a part of India and not the ocean. -- Core desat 04:26, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Should we, per last season, limit inclusion of storms to just those of at least deep depression strength? Depressions should only qualify if they cause a lot of damage and casualties, since depressions are generally weak (T1.5 or less) and would not qualify as a "tropical cyclone" per se. – Chacor 11:00, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
IMD classifies depression as tropical cyclones in their statistics. These systems usually have 10 minute mean wind speed of 20-25kt, corresponding to 1 minute mean wind speed around 25-30kt. A deep depression (30kt, 10min. average) is already close to a tropical storm in Atlantic. If depression is not notable enough, should all tropical depressions with little damage in Atlantic be dropped as well? Momoko 13:42, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
In meteorology, a depression is used as a general term for low pressure system and can refer to system below tropical cyclone intensity and even non-tropical system.
However, the use of this term in the operational plan is much stricter.
A system with a 15 kt max wind is a well marked low only)
Dropping the term 'tropical' is for simplicity only. A similar case is that we often refer a tropical cyclone as a cyclone in Australia but in meteorology, a cyclone can refer to a low pressure system other than tropical cyclone.
If you say that it's a bloody tropical disturbance, why was NRL stating 25kt? Why did come agencies analyse it as T1.5? This system is already at the borderline of a TD. Momoko 16:09, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi, just drawing attention to Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Tropical cyclone discussion archives. Up for deletion are all the archives of discussion about tropical cyclones on the seasonal pages, as opposed to the archives of Wikipedia-related discussion. See the nomination for the rationale for deletion. The thoughts of contributors here be appreciated on the discussion.-- Nilf anion ( talk) 21:22, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
One line extract from IMD press release dated 6th August 2007 for mid-season review of Southwest Monsoon 2007 mentions "This low pressure area intensified subsequently into a cyclonic storm `Yemyin’ over the North Arabian Sea (25th – 26th June) and crossed Pakistan coast." [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ugaap ( talk • contribs)
This updated IMD report also lists BOB 03 as Yemyin. Hurricanehink ( talk) 03:02, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
As per JTWC regenerated 03B.NONAME had best status of 60 knots & 978 mb. while RSMC New Delhi (BOB 03) had it as Deep Depression indicating maximum winds of 33 knots. Could there be such a vast difference between one minute wind speed and ten minute wind speed for a very long period?-- Ugaap 05:21, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
RSMC New Delhi bulletin issued by IMD on 29 October 2007 at 600 UTC has been given for next 24 hours instead of for shorter duration even though there is an active deep depression in the Arabian Sea. Also none of the RSMC bulletin has ARB number. What is the difference between the Bulletins of Cyclone Warning For Indian Coast and that of RMSC? IMD bulletins 7 & 8 are from the link to Cyclone Warning For Indian Coast and not from RSMC Bulletin.-- Ugaap 15:08, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
The old IMD advisories used to be posted here, but got suddenly replaced by a TWO yesterday. Now, the advisories are found here. We assume that the Arabian Sea Deep Depression is ARB 02 because Cyclone Akash, the last cyclone in the Arabian Sea, was ARB 01. -- RattleMan 17:52, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
I think they did that because BOB 08-2007 was more important since it was affecting land at the moment.. for the Arabian storm ID number it should be ARB 02-2007 even though the bulletin doesn't say it.
The Tropical Cyclone Outlooks are probably used since the storm is hardly moving or affecting land. So tropical cyclone warnings/bulletins aren't necessary yet. -- "VOFFA" 18:30 UTC 29 October, 2007.
Im a bit confused What do we need to Webcite for this page and how often do the products come out? Jason Rees 18:58, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Bulletin pertaining to BOB09 of 0900z (1430 IST) was available on IMD website too late-- Ugaap 15:32, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
As I stated in an above thread, the IMD has named BOB 09 Sidr. As such I've changed some things around to reflect the consequences of this - the Deep Depression BOB 03 section is now "Cyclonic Storm Yemyin", and the 03B article is now at Cyclone Yemyin. I may have missed some things, feel free to fix them if you see them. -- Core desat 06:56, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
For Example i have just looked at the shipping Forecast which is located Here which says that The next bullitten will be at about 1 am UTC Jason Rees 22:39, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
IMD has not been breaking the constraints on the Dvorak technique. As a result, IMD is not strengthening Sidr as fast as the JTWC has, and is essentially playing a long game of catch-up. Despite this problem, IMD is the official source for this basin, and its pressures must be used in the infobox at all times unless they become unavailable, even if it is an unreasonable number like 980 hPa. RSMC data always trumps JTWC data when it is available. -- Core desat 04:29, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
I just copied everything from the 2007 NIO article and I will expand it more this evening. I ask if anyone wants to add something, please do. User:CWY2190/06B 2007 --- CWY2190 T C 21:41, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
I just noticed this addition to their cyclone page [2]. Potapych ( talk) 14:08, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
Ive Asked for Webcite to do it and it should com up here if it is successfull IMD Cyclone Report be warned though it will take its time as it did with the End of monsoon report 2008 Jason Rees ( talk) 18:27, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
Why isn't there a season summary map for this year? You know, a chart of the storm tracks this year; why isn't one of those in the main infobox? 76.235.205.44 ( talk) 23:43, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh. I was just asking because for every season from 1990 or so to 2006, there is a map, and I was wondering about this season having one. 76.235.205.44 ( talk) 02:46, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
I really don't know why the season effects chart in this year is the one of 2008. If there is one, it should be from 2007, not 2008. Anyone agree? 76.236.178.224 ( talk) 20:10, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
I don't know if this should be mentioned, but this season had more category 5 storms than the western pacific basin. Should this be noted in the main article somewhere? It is the only time it ever happened before. 98.206.70.2 ( talk) 17:11, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
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