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The result of the discussion was no consensus to move. — An gr If you've written a quality article... 11:25, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't want to start an edit war over this, but the correct term is "I-Kiribati", not "Kiribatian". As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia should surely strive to be accurate. The Cambridge History of the Pacific Islanders ( ISBN 0-521-00354-7) uses "I-Kiribati", not "Kiribatian" (cf.p.251). Barrie Macdonald's Cinderellas of the Empire ( ISBN 982-02-0335-X), which is a history of Kiribati and Tuvalu, uses "I-Kiribati", not "Kiribatian" (cf.p.viii). The book Kiribati: Aspects of History ( ISBN 982-02-0051-2), by I-Kiribati writers, uses "I-Kiribati", not "Kiribatian" (cf.p.122). Kiribati: A Changing Atoll Culture ( ISBN 982-02-0197-7), also by I-Kiribati writers, uses "I-Kiribati", not "Kiribatian" (cf.back cover). There is consensus among scholarly publications: they all use "I-Kiribati"; none of them use "Kiribatian". So can we please stop using "Kiribatian" and start using the correct word? Aridd ( talk) 13:29, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
In scholarly books, you find either "I-Kiribati" used as an adjective to refer to things or concepts related to the country (for instance "I-Kiribati identity", "I-Kiribati traditions" in Aspects of History, p.122) - or, occasionally, "Kiribati" used as an adjective. But never "Kiribatian". I've not seen that once in published works, be they by Western scholars or I-Kiribati scholars. Likewise the press; I've got dozens of articles related to Kiribati from various news sources (Radio Australia, Radio New Zealand International, Marianas Variety, Island Business, Pacific Magazine...), and I've just done a word search on the lot of them: not one of them uses "Kiribatian". Not once. There is a lot of confusion in the West regarding the correct terms to use regarding some Pacific Island nations, which accounts for "Kiribatian". But there is overwhelming consensus to favour "I-Kiribati", and, as you can see, almost no-one (scholars or journalists specialising in the region) uses "Kiribatian". I've never seen any I-Kiribati person use "Kiribatian", for any purpose. If that's not enough for you, look at the Constitution of Kiribati. It speaks of "persons of I-Kiribati descent" (sections 19 & 28). It does not use the word "Kiribatian", ever. Aridd ( talk) 14:23, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Check this out: "[After the adoption of the name Kiribati by the Kiribati Language Board], a question arose as to what form of Kiribati would be used as an adjective. At first, "Kiribatese" (after Gilbertese) was considered, as well as "Kiribatian" or just plain Kiribati. I-Kiribati, which as a proper noun was being used to refer to a local person, was also employed sometimes as an adjective. Recently, the Board has recommended and the Cabinet has approved the word Kiribati as the adjective and I-Kiribati (or I Kiribati, without the hyphen) as the noun." [11] (my emphases). — AjaxSmack 04:51, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
It's amazing how Wikipedia claims it is opposed to original research and creating s*** out of thin air, but then goes right ahead and coins fake words like "Kiribatian" and "Vanuatuan." — Sesel ( talk) 03:04, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Move. Jafeluv ( talk) 05:49, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Kiribatian parliamentary election, 2007 → Kiribati parliamentary election, 2007 — "Kiribatian" is not a word. It is a senseless Wikipedian neologism. Kiribati government usage, and scholarly documents, favour "Kiribati" as an adjective (and "I-Kiribati" as an adjectival demonym for people). There seems to have been consensus for such usage in the previous discussion, so perhaps this time we can all agree to get rid of the bizarre and unwarranted neologism "Kiribatian". Aridd ( talk) 13:29, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was no consensus to move. — An gr If you've written a quality article... 11:25, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't want to start an edit war over this, but the correct term is "I-Kiribati", not "Kiribatian". As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia should surely strive to be accurate. The Cambridge History of the Pacific Islanders ( ISBN 0-521-00354-7) uses "I-Kiribati", not "Kiribatian" (cf.p.251). Barrie Macdonald's Cinderellas of the Empire ( ISBN 982-02-0335-X), which is a history of Kiribati and Tuvalu, uses "I-Kiribati", not "Kiribatian" (cf.p.viii). The book Kiribati: Aspects of History ( ISBN 982-02-0051-2), by I-Kiribati writers, uses "I-Kiribati", not "Kiribatian" (cf.p.122). Kiribati: A Changing Atoll Culture ( ISBN 982-02-0197-7), also by I-Kiribati writers, uses "I-Kiribati", not "Kiribatian" (cf.back cover). There is consensus among scholarly publications: they all use "I-Kiribati"; none of them use "Kiribatian". So can we please stop using "Kiribatian" and start using the correct word? Aridd ( talk) 13:29, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
In scholarly books, you find either "I-Kiribati" used as an adjective to refer to things or concepts related to the country (for instance "I-Kiribati identity", "I-Kiribati traditions" in Aspects of History, p.122) - or, occasionally, "Kiribati" used as an adjective. But never "Kiribatian". I've not seen that once in published works, be they by Western scholars or I-Kiribati scholars. Likewise the press; I've got dozens of articles related to Kiribati from various news sources (Radio Australia, Radio New Zealand International, Marianas Variety, Island Business, Pacific Magazine...), and I've just done a word search on the lot of them: not one of them uses "Kiribatian". Not once. There is a lot of confusion in the West regarding the correct terms to use regarding some Pacific Island nations, which accounts for "Kiribatian". But there is overwhelming consensus to favour "I-Kiribati", and, as you can see, almost no-one (scholars or journalists specialising in the region) uses "Kiribatian". I've never seen any I-Kiribati person use "Kiribatian", for any purpose. If that's not enough for you, look at the Constitution of Kiribati. It speaks of "persons of I-Kiribati descent" (sections 19 & 28). It does not use the word "Kiribatian", ever. Aridd ( talk) 14:23, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Check this out: "[After the adoption of the name Kiribati by the Kiribati Language Board], a question arose as to what form of Kiribati would be used as an adjective. At first, "Kiribatese" (after Gilbertese) was considered, as well as "Kiribatian" or just plain Kiribati. I-Kiribati, which as a proper noun was being used to refer to a local person, was also employed sometimes as an adjective. Recently, the Board has recommended and the Cabinet has approved the word Kiribati as the adjective and I-Kiribati (or I Kiribati, without the hyphen) as the noun." [11] (my emphases). — AjaxSmack 04:51, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
It's amazing how Wikipedia claims it is opposed to original research and creating s*** out of thin air, but then goes right ahead and coins fake words like "Kiribatian" and "Vanuatuan." — Sesel ( talk) 03:04, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Move. Jafeluv ( talk) 05:49, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Kiribatian parliamentary election, 2007 → Kiribati parliamentary election, 2007 — "Kiribatian" is not a word. It is a senseless Wikipedian neologism. Kiribati government usage, and scholarly documents, favour "Kiribati" as an adjective (and "I-Kiribati" as an adjectival demonym for people). There seems to have been consensus for such usage in the previous discussion, so perhaps this time we can all agree to get rid of the bizarre and unwarranted neologism "Kiribatian". Aridd ( talk) 13:29, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
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