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This page is clearly not balanced or level-headed. Therefore the POV is there. He had a 2 crore supari on his head from the innocent Marble merchants of Rajasthan. Tri400 16:09, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
Actually, Why dont you provide another source that says that the police have admitted killing an innocent man? The only quote on the BBC article is supposedly from the police's lawyer "we are prepared to take immediate action." Furthermore it says "authorities" have admitted that police killed an innocent Muslim without any quote whatsoever. Which "authorities"? Have they only admitted to the un-named BBC journalist in private? That's not an admission. Tri400 20:41, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
not sure why this article has such an unclear title.
it should be Sohrabuddin Sheikh Fake Encounter
Pls discuss.
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vvarkey (
talk) 18:47, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
-- vvarkey ( talk) 18:53, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Kgupta24, please do not put material from blogs. if you can find a good source, your material would be more than welcome. also, please keep the tone of the text neutral. -- vvarkey ( talk) 13:09, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
as noted above, the article was rather poorly written, band-aid upon band-aid of writing. I started by trying to add recent details, but ended up thoroughly overhauling the whole article. In the lead I tried to bring out the political significance of the case. Added references for most of the points that may be controversial. Also, deleted the claim of a huge arms cache being found in SS's well; the only ref to that seemed to have sprouted after the wikipedia article mentioned it. Instead, I found a reference to only two AK-56's being in the well (he was, however, caught transporting a large haul of arms for Latif). I have also deleted a parag abt Modi's speeches being requested by the SIT investigation into the 2002 riots, this clearly doesn't belong here.
Most of the other citations/references I have kept but tried to incoporate a more coherent story and flow. Trust it reads better, but if you feel it can be improved, by all means, edit it further!!
One point I wanted to mention was how the case shows how far Indian police officers are "bend-able" - but ran out of time. mukerjee ( talk) 16:37, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
I am in the process of copy-editing this article for the November 2010 Backlog elimination drive for the Guild of Copy Editors. I expect this process to take a day or two; the work in progress can (currently) be found on my sandbox. Please leave comments under this heading and I will get back to you on it. OldManInACoffeeCan ( talk) 05:03, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: move to Death of Soharbuddin Shiekh Martijn Hoekstra ( talk) 18:10, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
I propose that the title be moved to the neutral "The death of Soharbuddin Shiekh", as is Wikipedia policy and practice. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 04:09, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
![]() | It was proposed in this section that
Death of Sohrabuddin Sheikh be
renamed and moved to
Sohrabuddin Sheikh encounter.
The discussion has been closed, and the result will be found in the closer's comment. Links:
current log •
target log |
Sohrabuddin Sheikh fake encounter → Sohrabuddin Sheikh encounter – the word "fake" is creates a biased statement of the article, as the issue is under legal proceedings and nothing concrete is coming out. its politically coined word does not fit to the WP:NPOV. Unless and until it is proved, no offensive word supposed to be used, which may tile the public opinion. sensitive issues of specific geography supposed to be taken care. --Relisted. -- tariqabjotu 23:06, 28 June 2013 (UTC) Bheemsinh ( talk) 13:05, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
*'''Support'''
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, then sign your comment with ~~~~
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polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account
Wikipedia's policy on article titles.The article as written now favors the police perspective.
Other sources favor the perspective of people killed.
I do not know anything about this case or issue or the people writing about it, but I found this source telling a different story.
Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:32, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
This is a complicated article and I propose to split it for simplification. The split that I want is to separate the biography of Sohrabuddin from the "death of Sohrabuddin". The main article should be the death, and should include the main court case with the 36 accused and brief descriptions of the many side issues.
Currently this article is mostly a biography of Sohrabuddin, which does not match with the available media coverage. The controversy and media coverage is about what happened after Sohrabuddin died or what other people did with him when he was alive, and less about whatever Sohrabuddin ever did. Splitting the biography would simplify a lot. Blue Rasberry (talk) 01:43, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:11, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
This source makes the claim that Amit Shah was unknown before this case. Currently he is one of the most famous people in India, and perhaps many people now know nothing about this case.
I am marking this here because if it is correct, then this could be part of the explanation of why the case and person matter to each other. I have not investigated early sources to see when the news first mentioned Shah, or to what extent Shah was in public attention before this case. Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:31, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
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This page is clearly not balanced or level-headed. Therefore the POV is there. He had a 2 crore supari on his head from the innocent Marble merchants of Rajasthan. Tri400 16:09, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
Actually, Why dont you provide another source that says that the police have admitted killing an innocent man? The only quote on the BBC article is supposedly from the police's lawyer "we are prepared to take immediate action." Furthermore it says "authorities" have admitted that police killed an innocent Muslim without any quote whatsoever. Which "authorities"? Have they only admitted to the un-named BBC journalist in private? That's not an admission. Tri400 20:41, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
not sure why this article has such an unclear title.
it should be Sohrabuddin Sheikh Fake Encounter
Pls discuss.
--
vvarkey (
talk) 18:47, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
-- vvarkey ( talk) 18:53, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Kgupta24, please do not put material from blogs. if you can find a good source, your material would be more than welcome. also, please keep the tone of the text neutral. -- vvarkey ( talk) 13:09, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
as noted above, the article was rather poorly written, band-aid upon band-aid of writing. I started by trying to add recent details, but ended up thoroughly overhauling the whole article. In the lead I tried to bring out the political significance of the case. Added references for most of the points that may be controversial. Also, deleted the claim of a huge arms cache being found in SS's well; the only ref to that seemed to have sprouted after the wikipedia article mentioned it. Instead, I found a reference to only two AK-56's being in the well (he was, however, caught transporting a large haul of arms for Latif). I have also deleted a parag abt Modi's speeches being requested by the SIT investigation into the 2002 riots, this clearly doesn't belong here.
Most of the other citations/references I have kept but tried to incoporate a more coherent story and flow. Trust it reads better, but if you feel it can be improved, by all means, edit it further!!
One point I wanted to mention was how the case shows how far Indian police officers are "bend-able" - but ran out of time. mukerjee ( talk) 16:37, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
I am in the process of copy-editing this article for the November 2010 Backlog elimination drive for the Guild of Copy Editors. I expect this process to take a day or two; the work in progress can (currently) be found on my sandbox. Please leave comments under this heading and I will get back to you on it. OldManInACoffeeCan ( talk) 05:03, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: move to Death of Soharbuddin Shiekh Martijn Hoekstra ( talk) 18:10, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
I propose that the title be moved to the neutral "The death of Soharbuddin Shiekh", as is Wikipedia policy and practice. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 04:09, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
![]() | It was proposed in this section that
Death of Sohrabuddin Sheikh be
renamed and moved to
Sohrabuddin Sheikh encounter.
The discussion has been closed, and the result will be found in the closer's comment. Links:
current log •
target log |
Sohrabuddin Sheikh fake encounter → Sohrabuddin Sheikh encounter – the word "fake" is creates a biased statement of the article, as the issue is under legal proceedings and nothing concrete is coming out. its politically coined word does not fit to the WP:NPOV. Unless and until it is proved, no offensive word supposed to be used, which may tile the public opinion. sensitive issues of specific geography supposed to be taken care. --Relisted. -- tariqabjotu 23:06, 28 June 2013 (UTC) Bheemsinh ( talk) 13:05, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
*'''Support'''
or *'''Oppose'''
, then sign your comment with ~~~~
. Since
polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account
Wikipedia's policy on article titles.The article as written now favors the police perspective.
Other sources favor the perspective of people killed.
I do not know anything about this case or issue or the people writing about it, but I found this source telling a different story.
Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:32, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
This is a complicated article and I propose to split it for simplification. The split that I want is to separate the biography of Sohrabuddin from the "death of Sohrabuddin". The main article should be the death, and should include the main court case with the 36 accused and brief descriptions of the many side issues.
Currently this article is mostly a biography of Sohrabuddin, which does not match with the available media coverage. The controversy and media coverage is about what happened after Sohrabuddin died or what other people did with him when he was alive, and less about whatever Sohrabuddin ever did. Splitting the biography would simplify a lot. Blue Rasberry (talk) 01:43, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:11, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
This source makes the claim that Amit Shah was unknown before this case. Currently he is one of the most famous people in India, and perhaps many people now know nothing about this case.
I am marking this here because if it is correct, then this could be part of the explanation of why the case and person matter to each other. I have not investigated early sources to see when the news first mentioned Shah, or to what extent Shah was in public attention before this case. Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:31, 7 January 2021 (UTC)