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While the subsections seem to include all candidates, the overview at the beginning only mentions Republicans and Democrats - half of the candidates on the ballot. - Marknoble 13:53, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
I've seen references to this "smear" appear in several articles now ... in a still-very-short article about an election campaign in which not a single issue position of either candidate is mentioned, this sort of ephemera is unencyclopedic unless it becomes the defining issue of the campaign, which I imagine it will not be. Blackwell's quote about how homosexuality is curable is much more notable; at least it came from the candidate. Thus I am removing this reference for now.-- Inonit 17:11, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
In the introduction, it mentions that Ken Blackwell is an "African-American Republican". I think this reference is irrevelant at best, if not somewhat suspect. When we see the picture of him in the article we can determine his ethnicity anyway. Thus I'm removing this language. Bcirker 16:57, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
I notice that when I scroll down, the first thing I see besides the flag of Ohio is Ken Blackwell. To see Ted Strickland, I have to scroll down quite a bit more past Bob Taft. While the effect Taft has on the election is important, shouldn't we at least present the candidates that are actually running first? And also perhaps put the pictures side by side? Or am I just nitpicking here? Bcirker 01:49, 7 October 2006 (UTC) Oh yeah and Tom Noe is there too... Bcirker 01:50, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
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I'm new to this whole Wikipedia thing, but I noticed in this article the following statement under the Historical Background: National Attention page, which I do not think is true:
"Further illustrating the role of Ohio in 2008 is the fact that, throughout the history of the United States, there has never been an elected president who did not first win the electoral votes of Ohio."
I've heard this sort of thing before, but I think the truth is more like, all but two Presidents since World War II have won Ohio's electoral votes. Besides, there were several presidential elections before Ohio became a state in 1803. -- Inexorability 03:27, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
You are correct that this is incorrect -- Kennedy in 1960 did not win Ohio. But it might be true that no Republican has won without winning Ohio (this has the advantage of only taking us back to 1860, for one thing).-- Inonit 12:04, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
I request everyone here date the new polls they add to the survey section by the last day the instruments were administered in the field, not the first date on which the polls made headlines. This gives the consumer of this page a better sense of the chronology of the "public opinion" documented by them. Earthliberator 17:04, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Also, I haven't the time for this, but would someone go back, inspect all of the poll results heretofore obtained, and redate/order them if necessary according to the above criterion--the last date the poll was administered in the field? If we do not do this, we could end up giving an improper and distorted impression of public opinion. Earthliberator 17:10, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm back (for better or worse, depending on your perspective), now that the election is over -- not to settle old scores, but to proceed with encyclopedia-izing this article. I know there was some contentious discussion on this page about whether we were being "fair" to Fitrakis and Peirce during the campaign, etc. I personally think of Wikipedia as an encyclopedia, not a news outlet, and hence I disagreed with the journalism-style arguments, etc. That discussion is over, and I conceded it during the campaign. Now, I've started a good-faith effort to clean up the article to make it more encyclopedic both by de-emphasizing the candidates who turned out not to matter much (not a slap, just an observation of the results) and starting the process of contextualizing what happened. Much more work to do, to which I hope many will contribute. I just wanted to leave some sort of message since I'm making some bold edits already.-- Inonit 14:34, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Made a first attempt at fleshing that out a little bit, while not making it too long (there's another whole article on it). I haven't yet made an effort to harmonize it with the main article, so that's on my to-do list unless someone gets to it first. I think some better scrutiny of exit polls would give us more information about the degree to which it impacted Blackwell on Election Day.-- Inonit 17:40, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
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While the subsections seem to include all candidates, the overview at the beginning only mentions Republicans and Democrats - half of the candidates on the ballot. - Marknoble 13:53, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
I've seen references to this "smear" appear in several articles now ... in a still-very-short article about an election campaign in which not a single issue position of either candidate is mentioned, this sort of ephemera is unencyclopedic unless it becomes the defining issue of the campaign, which I imagine it will not be. Blackwell's quote about how homosexuality is curable is much more notable; at least it came from the candidate. Thus I am removing this reference for now.-- Inonit 17:11, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
In the introduction, it mentions that Ken Blackwell is an "African-American Republican". I think this reference is irrevelant at best, if not somewhat suspect. When we see the picture of him in the article we can determine his ethnicity anyway. Thus I'm removing this language. Bcirker 16:57, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
I notice that when I scroll down, the first thing I see besides the flag of Ohio is Ken Blackwell. To see Ted Strickland, I have to scroll down quite a bit more past Bob Taft. While the effect Taft has on the election is important, shouldn't we at least present the candidates that are actually running first? And also perhaps put the pictures side by side? Or am I just nitpicking here? Bcirker 01:49, 7 October 2006 (UTC) Oh yeah and Tom Noe is there too... Bcirker 01:50, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
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23:33, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm new to this whole Wikipedia thing, but I noticed in this article the following statement under the Historical Background: National Attention page, which I do not think is true:
"Further illustrating the role of Ohio in 2008 is the fact that, throughout the history of the United States, there has never been an elected president who did not first win the electoral votes of Ohio."
I've heard this sort of thing before, but I think the truth is more like, all but two Presidents since World War II have won Ohio's electoral votes. Besides, there were several presidential elections before Ohio became a state in 1803. -- Inexorability 03:27, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
You are correct that this is incorrect -- Kennedy in 1960 did not win Ohio. But it might be true that no Republican has won without winning Ohio (this has the advantage of only taking us back to 1860, for one thing).-- Inonit 12:04, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
I request everyone here date the new polls they add to the survey section by the last day the instruments were administered in the field, not the first date on which the polls made headlines. This gives the consumer of this page a better sense of the chronology of the "public opinion" documented by them. Earthliberator 17:04, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Also, I haven't the time for this, but would someone go back, inspect all of the poll results heretofore obtained, and redate/order them if necessary according to the above criterion--the last date the poll was administered in the field? If we do not do this, we could end up giving an improper and distorted impression of public opinion. Earthliberator 17:10, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm back (for better or worse, depending on your perspective), now that the election is over -- not to settle old scores, but to proceed with encyclopedia-izing this article. I know there was some contentious discussion on this page about whether we were being "fair" to Fitrakis and Peirce during the campaign, etc. I personally think of Wikipedia as an encyclopedia, not a news outlet, and hence I disagreed with the journalism-style arguments, etc. That discussion is over, and I conceded it during the campaign. Now, I've started a good-faith effort to clean up the article to make it more encyclopedic both by de-emphasizing the candidates who turned out not to matter much (not a slap, just an observation of the results) and starting the process of contextualizing what happened. Much more work to do, to which I hope many will contribute. I just wanted to leave some sort of message since I'm making some bold edits already.-- Inonit 14:34, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Made a first attempt at fleshing that out a little bit, while not making it too long (there's another whole article on it). I haven't yet made an effort to harmonize it with the main article, so that's on my to-do list unless someone gets to it first. I think some better scrutiny of exit polls would give us more information about the degree to which it impacted Blackwell on Election Day.-- Inonit 17:40, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
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