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Should Hurricane Maria really redirect to the article page? There was a Tropical Storm Maria [1] in the 2000 Pacific typhoon season. Perhaps we could rename all of the Hurricane Blank disambiguation pages to Tropical Storm Blank since in the Northern Hemisphere tropical storm is used in all basins. Michelle T 16:16, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
Tropical Storm x should be the global disambiguation page. Hurricane x should be the season redirect, the storm link for a single major storm (i.e. Rita) or the basin disambiguation page (that we have now). Here is an example:
Tropical Storm Noname - global disambiguation (if necessary), linking to the following:
Each of those second-level pages would do one of the following:
CrazyC83 16:21, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
If Greek names are indeed retired if they cause enough damage, besides in future years, what happens to the other basin, considering both the Atlantic and Eastern Pacific basins use Greek names? -- NSLE | Talk 03:38, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
Not to mention that we may be in greek letters in October. -- Holderca1 12:22, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
My thought for the solution in case a Greek letter gets retired: first, use the four obsolete letters. Since this could be a once-in-a-lifetime event (or at least will be difficult to match - only 1887, 1933, 1969 and 1995 came close and except for 1995, they may have had one or more get away from them unnoticed), they should last a long time. CrazyC83 16:07, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
Hurricane Katrina DID NOT destroy $200 billion worth of property. That estimate was of economic impact. I brought it up in the Hurricane Katrina talk page and I'll bring it up here since most of the more rational people seem to hang out here (and I hope to God that they stay). I've lost count of how many times I've reverted that stuff. It's getting just slightly aggrivating. I'm not exactly sure what to do about it.
E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 02:32, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Economic impact isn't counted. Insured property damage is, and that's what we go on, times two. -- Golbez 04:24, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
It seems we're all agreed. I stand firm that the Hurricane Katrina article should be changed and revert anyone who says otherwise without an official source.
E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 00:48, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
The article currently says farthest north and east a tropical cyclone has formed in this basin (per NHC). Should we call it a hurricane or cyclone, given that North Atlantic cyclones are hurricanes, and the NHC is giving advisories on a Hurricane and not a Cyclone? -- NSLE | Talk 07:01, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
"A PRELIMINARY EXAMINATION SUGGESTS THIS IS THE FARTHEST EAST AND NORTH A TROPICAL CYCLONE HAS EVER FORMED IN THE BASIN."
So I call it a tropical cyclone. What you had was a hurricane formed in the basin, which should have been "tropical storm" or something. Just what I think. -- RattleMan 07:14, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
I think we are completely missing the fact that tropical cyclone is the general term used to describe a warm-core cyclone with a closed circulation that has winds of at least 30 mph (25 mph in some people's books, I'm not completely opposed to that opinion). Vince technically qualifies for both records. Hurricane Vince is its official designation based on its estimated intensity.
E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 00:42, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
This is like saying "Ford says this is the best car they've ever made, should we call it a 'Ford car' instead of a 'Ford sedan'???" I'm a little dismayed that so much virtual ink has been spent discussing such a non-issue. -- Golbez 14:28, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
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Should Hurricane Maria really redirect to the article page? There was a Tropical Storm Maria [1] in the 2000 Pacific typhoon season. Perhaps we could rename all of the Hurricane Blank disambiguation pages to Tropical Storm Blank since in the Northern Hemisphere tropical storm is used in all basins. Michelle T 16:16, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
Tropical Storm x should be the global disambiguation page. Hurricane x should be the season redirect, the storm link for a single major storm (i.e. Rita) or the basin disambiguation page (that we have now). Here is an example:
Tropical Storm Noname - global disambiguation (if necessary), linking to the following:
Each of those second-level pages would do one of the following:
CrazyC83 16:21, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
If Greek names are indeed retired if they cause enough damage, besides in future years, what happens to the other basin, considering both the Atlantic and Eastern Pacific basins use Greek names? -- NSLE | Talk 03:38, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
Not to mention that we may be in greek letters in October. -- Holderca1 12:22, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
My thought for the solution in case a Greek letter gets retired: first, use the four obsolete letters. Since this could be a once-in-a-lifetime event (or at least will be difficult to match - only 1887, 1933, 1969 and 1995 came close and except for 1995, they may have had one or more get away from them unnoticed), they should last a long time. CrazyC83 16:07, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
Hurricane Katrina DID NOT destroy $200 billion worth of property. That estimate was of economic impact. I brought it up in the Hurricane Katrina talk page and I'll bring it up here since most of the more rational people seem to hang out here (and I hope to God that they stay). I've lost count of how many times I've reverted that stuff. It's getting just slightly aggrivating. I'm not exactly sure what to do about it.
E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 02:32, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Economic impact isn't counted. Insured property damage is, and that's what we go on, times two. -- Golbez 04:24, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
It seems we're all agreed. I stand firm that the Hurricane Katrina article should be changed and revert anyone who says otherwise without an official source.
E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 00:48, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
The article currently says farthest north and east a tropical cyclone has formed in this basin (per NHC). Should we call it a hurricane or cyclone, given that North Atlantic cyclones are hurricanes, and the NHC is giving advisories on a Hurricane and not a Cyclone? -- NSLE | Talk 07:01, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
"A PRELIMINARY EXAMINATION SUGGESTS THIS IS THE FARTHEST EAST AND NORTH A TROPICAL CYCLONE HAS EVER FORMED IN THE BASIN."
So I call it a tropical cyclone. What you had was a hurricane formed in the basin, which should have been "tropical storm" or something. Just what I think. -- RattleMan 07:14, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
I think we are completely missing the fact that tropical cyclone is the general term used to describe a warm-core cyclone with a closed circulation that has winds of at least 30 mph (25 mph in some people's books, I'm not completely opposed to that opinion). Vince technically qualifies for both records. Hurricane Vince is its official designation based on its estimated intensity.
E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 00:42, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
This is like saying "Ford says this is the best car they've ever made, should we call it a 'Ford car' instead of a 'Ford sedan'???" I'm a little dismayed that so much virtual ink has been spent discussing such a non-issue. -- Golbez 14:28, 11 October 2005 (UTC)