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I've been reading some volcano articles and I ran across Wikipedia:WikiProject_Mountains. These guys seem pretty organized (as I'm sure other wikiprojects are) and I think some of these ideas would be helpful for work on tropical cyclones.
Now I'm not saying a wikiproject should be created immediately. The first step in further organization would be to get some useful templates going (templates for infoboxes for hurricanes and hurricane seasons) and a more centralized place for discussion of these issues. Current discussion (that I have read) seems to center in this talk page and in Talk:List of notable tropical cyclones but is pretty spread out.
Does anyone object to this idea? Is there actually more organization out there that I don't know about? Is there somewhere else I should be suggesting this?
Jdorje 02:50, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
Articles on Typhoons seem to be a bit disorganized, it would be great if a Wikiproject could cover them. I think it would also to help expand articles on past hurricanes, though it may be hard to find more information. -- Revolución ( talk) 00:20, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
I'm just wondering...what happens if we get into the Greek Alphabet, and a Greek-name storm is so bad that the name calls for retirement? Would they just skip over that name in future years and still retire it, or ignore the request? CrazyC83 03:43, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
Speaking of which: there's a few problems with that Hurricane Alice of 1954 article. On the 1954 Atlantic hurricane season page, it cites Alice as the first storm of the season, yet it formed after the other storms that are later on the list. Can someone go clean that information up please or clarify? Thanks. -- tomf688< TALK> 13:57, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
For those who are regularly updating the "current" sections for each tropical system...why is the central pressure never included? This is the most important measurement of strength, and the most reliably reported one. I added it to Ophelia and it was kept updated after that, but I see for Philippe and Rita it is again gone. Can we start including this in all hurricane reports? Jdorje 05:15, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
Do you think it would look better if we put some of the satellite pictures on the left? All the pictures are on the right, and it looks a bit unbalanced. -- Revolución ( talk) 23:46, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
I don't think all of the storms need a picture. The picture for Jose doesn't really give anyone an idea of what exactly the storm is on that picture. The weather looks worse on the Pacific coast of Mexico than it does on the Gulf side. -- Holderca1 00:31, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
For myself I love photos of all Tropical Storms and Hurricanes alike. For one thing they are their own entity and have their own personality like people do. So I think satellite photos show that. Like everything in this world no two things are exactly alike and that goes for Tropical Storms and Hurricanes and I love to associate a Name to a picture.
I think that all the pics are good except for Jose and Bret. (On both of them, the weather actually looks worse on the Pacific.) Phillipe and Rita need pictures that aren't of the forecast track. They need some satellite photos. Fableheroesguild 01:18, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
I've added {{clear}} after each storm section. The images for the storms at the bottom with less information were aliggning so they overlaped sections. The template caues the next section to drop down untill it can clear all the way right. It differentiates the sections in a way I think is nice but I suspect some people may dislike the added whitespace in the articles. I also added the template to the sections that were formatting properly in my browser as screen resolution and font sizes will impact this. You can't really tell they are there except at the bottom. Dalf | Talk 01:29, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
Not mentioning when a storm is downgraded leaves a gap in the timeline. Who cares if it's over land or water? It's legitimate info IMHO. -- tomf688< TALK> 22:32, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
Well that's my argument too. See the page history when I added Philippe being downgraded to a tropical storm. Golbez disagreed with it's significance, so I made a post here on the talk page. -- tomf688{ talk} 12:31, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
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I've been reading some volcano articles and I ran across Wikipedia:WikiProject_Mountains. These guys seem pretty organized (as I'm sure other wikiprojects are) and I think some of these ideas would be helpful for work on tropical cyclones.
Now I'm not saying a wikiproject should be created immediately. The first step in further organization would be to get some useful templates going (templates for infoboxes for hurricanes and hurricane seasons) and a more centralized place for discussion of these issues. Current discussion (that I have read) seems to center in this talk page and in Talk:List of notable tropical cyclones but is pretty spread out.
Does anyone object to this idea? Is there actually more organization out there that I don't know about? Is there somewhere else I should be suggesting this?
Jdorje 02:50, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
Articles on Typhoons seem to be a bit disorganized, it would be great if a Wikiproject could cover them. I think it would also to help expand articles on past hurricanes, though it may be hard to find more information. -- Revolución ( talk) 00:20, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
I'm just wondering...what happens if we get into the Greek Alphabet, and a Greek-name storm is so bad that the name calls for retirement? Would they just skip over that name in future years and still retire it, or ignore the request? CrazyC83 03:43, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
Speaking of which: there's a few problems with that Hurricane Alice of 1954 article. On the 1954 Atlantic hurricane season page, it cites Alice as the first storm of the season, yet it formed after the other storms that are later on the list. Can someone go clean that information up please or clarify? Thanks. -- tomf688< TALK> 13:57, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
For those who are regularly updating the "current" sections for each tropical system...why is the central pressure never included? This is the most important measurement of strength, and the most reliably reported one. I added it to Ophelia and it was kept updated after that, but I see for Philippe and Rita it is again gone. Can we start including this in all hurricane reports? Jdorje 05:15, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
Do you think it would look better if we put some of the satellite pictures on the left? All the pictures are on the right, and it looks a bit unbalanced. -- Revolución ( talk) 23:46, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
I don't think all of the storms need a picture. The picture for Jose doesn't really give anyone an idea of what exactly the storm is on that picture. The weather looks worse on the Pacific coast of Mexico than it does on the Gulf side. -- Holderca1 00:31, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
For myself I love photos of all Tropical Storms and Hurricanes alike. For one thing they are their own entity and have their own personality like people do. So I think satellite photos show that. Like everything in this world no two things are exactly alike and that goes for Tropical Storms and Hurricanes and I love to associate a Name to a picture.
I think that all the pics are good except for Jose and Bret. (On both of them, the weather actually looks worse on the Pacific.) Phillipe and Rita need pictures that aren't of the forecast track. They need some satellite photos. Fableheroesguild 01:18, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
I've added {{clear}} after each storm section. The images for the storms at the bottom with less information were aliggning so they overlaped sections. The template caues the next section to drop down untill it can clear all the way right. It differentiates the sections in a way I think is nice but I suspect some people may dislike the added whitespace in the articles. I also added the template to the sections that were formatting properly in my browser as screen resolution and font sizes will impact this. You can't really tell they are there except at the bottom. Dalf | Talk 01:29, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
Not mentioning when a storm is downgraded leaves a gap in the timeline. Who cares if it's over land or water? It's legitimate info IMHO. -- tomf688< TALK> 22:32, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
Well that's my argument too. See the page history when I added Philippe being downgraded to a tropical storm. Golbez disagreed with it's significance, so I made a post here on the talk page. -- tomf688{ talk} 12:31, 21 September 2005 (UTC)