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Should a chart be made, like the death toll charts for individual storms, containing the cumulative death toll for all 2005 storms, by country, region and political unit? CrazyC83 18:25, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Leave an article with lots of available information alone, and it will do nothing but grow. This one has grown from 44k to 50k in the last couple of weeks, and is bordering on what I would call "too long". — jdorje ( talk) 07:41, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Check out this video. At about 36:55 Max mentions that there may have been another storm to meet the qualifications for a name. -- Ajm 81 21:47, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
Regarding a 28th named storm: at first I thought maybe it was TD22 as well...but it is not. They are looking at a system in early Oct in the eastern ATL that may have had tropical characteristics. 2005...the season that won't quit! Another surprise. Mkieper 14:36, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
I've just found this on the German Wikipedia. It would be great if someone could modify it for English (translate the months and the links and add links for others with English articles). It really demonstrates how continuous and constant the season was. — Cuiviénen ( Cuivië) 18:21, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Here you go (edit to see code):
--
Ajm
81
19:33, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
In addition to downsizing, would it be possible to show category on it? WotGoPlunk 02:06, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
How about compressing the timeline vertically, by putting all the storms onto a small number of rows, maybe 5? Then the concurrent storms will still be obvious and the total space required goes from 30 data rows to a much lower number. -- 86.139.249.40 10:46, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
What do you people think of the table reorganised like this? The 'standard' Category 1 color doesn't work in this form, perhaps changing the background color is the solution, seems preferable to giving ANOTHER palette for hurricane categories. -- 86.142.250.56 12:35, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
I added this here to demonstrate what else could be done with this timeline. The colors on Emily show the maximum intensity on each day using the established colors but while it certainly gives more information I think it looks ugly. The mark on Katrina shows when maximum intensity occured, this might be useful. I got rid of the '2005.41' by using 'ScaleMinor' instead of 'ScaleMajor'. -- 86.142.250.56 20:11, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
I've changed the colour of the background on the timelines to a light grey; seems to make more sense than to have another battle over the category colours when there is a simpler solution. Having said that I think the colours of cats 4 and 5 are too similar. I think it works if the colours are left alone; apart from Cat4 which could be changed to:
#ff8c40 |
-- 86.141.83.56 01:11, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Someone has uploaded the condensed timeline to the timeline article. As the discussion is here this is the logical place to discuss it, though maybe this whole thread should be moved (I'll figure that how to do that when I get a account I guess). There seem to be a few issues with the timeline as it is. While it is obvious what the timeline conveys, theres a few points which seem to be an issue.
Or is it just a waste of time being fussy over a matter of one day? It doesn't really matter to the timelines overall structure after all. -- 86.139.226.87 21:22, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Any idea when NOAA will be publishing the overall track map for 2005? I know that they have been used as part of the recent season pages other than 2005 and expect that it will be added when NOAA publishes them. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Naraht ( talk • contribs) . (sorry for forgetting to sign)
It is finally out; the NHC has decided it was briefly a category 5. TCR
YES!! I don't have to change any of my records!! Except now I have to fix a lot of them on here because people erased many of the Cat. 5 stats..... Here goes Heavy working on the records list again - Cory Pesaturo "The Snowman" FreeSledder 10:57, 13 March 2006 (EST)
HAH! The best one isnt the last. Lets just hope we get more intresting things. What if Beta becomes Cat4-we'll have a new record there. HurricaneCraze32 20:44, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Well look at that! Figured it almost had to be, but I'm surprised the NHC did it. And without lowering the pressure. A bit of a perk on an otherwise depressing weather news day. - PolitiCalypso 21:06, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
What an amazing season this was... — Cuivi é nen, 21:14, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
...I can sleep tonight! Weatherman90 02:52, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
Uh, WTF? What the hell happened to the article? The Wikipedia server is acting like it doesn't exist. -- § Hurricane E RIC § Damages archive 22:55, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that the Cat.5 and Cat. 4 colors look very similar. People that are colorblind might get confused. Maybe someone could change one or both of the colors to differentiate them more. Icelandic Hurricane #12 22:03, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
The reason for the lack of contrast between cat 4 and 5 was that someone had changed cats 3-5 to a darker shade and only cats 3 and 5 were reverted, cat 4 got missed. With the original colours restored this problems gone. -- 86.141.83.56 16:59, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
TD 27 was briefly a TS before dropping back to a TD, then regenerating into TS Gamma.
Now, if it had never become gamma, we would simply designate it TS 27, as would likely the NHC.
However, since it DID become Gamma, shouldn't we note in the timelane that it briefly became TS Gamma, designation retroactive? And then dissipated or dropped to TD, then back up to Gamma? -- Golbez 22:15, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Category 1s are practically the same as the background, and its really hard to see. Maybe the background colour should be changed.
Jamie|
C
19:38, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
My chart is (Ignore the Subtropical Storm)
Extratropical Edit - (779bEE) Edit |
Subtropical depression Edit - (violet) Edit |
Tropical depression Edit - (#E1CCFF) Edit |
Tropical storm Edit - (lightgreen) Edit |
Subtropical Storm Edit - (#ffe775) Edit |
Category 1 hurricane Edit - (#ffdd88) Edit |
Category 2 hurricane Edit - (#ffffaa) Edit |
Category 3 hurricane Edit - (pink) Edit |
Category 4 hurricane Edit - (#ff8f20) Edit |
Category 5 hurricane Edit - (#ff4343) Edit |
HurricaneCraze32 23:06, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
What about this? The link colour may have to be changed for Tropical Storm though.
Extratropical Edit - (cccccc) Edit |
Tropical depression Edit - (5ebaff) Edit |
Tropical storm Edit - (00faf4) Edit |
Category 1 hurricane Edit - (ffffcc) Edit |
Category 2 hurricane Edit - (ffe775) Edit |
Category 3 hurricane Edit - (ffc140) Edit |
Category 4 hurricane Edit - (ff8e0d) Edit |
Category 5 hurricane Edit - (ff6060) Edit |
WotGoPlunk 02:10, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Tropical depression Edit - (#66CCFF) Edit |
Tropical storm Edit - (3399FF) Edit |
Category 1 hurricane Edit - (#FFFF99) Edit |
Category 2 hurricane Edit - (#FFCC00) Edit |
Category 3 hurricane Edit - (ff8e0d) Edit |
Category 4 hurricane Edit - (FF6666) Edit |
Category 5 hurricane Edit - (FF0099) Edit |
How about this. I know Cat 5 is a little bit dark but you can still see the links . Pikachu9000 05:04, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
What colors are used on the French wikipedia? Their infoboxen were more mature than ours for a very long time, and they have colorcoding. Try theirs out. -- Golbez 06:51, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Tropical depression Edit - (5ebaff) Edit |
Tropical storm Edit - (00faf4) Edit |
Category 1 hurricane Edit - (ffffcc) Edit |
Category 2 hurricane Edit - (ffe775) Edit |
Category 3 hurricane Edit - (ffc140) Edit |
Category 4 hurricane Edit - (ff8f20) Edit |
Category 5 hurricane Edit - (ff6060) Edit |
Rita is out. Still cat 3 at landfall, pressure lowered a bit and max winds upped. -- Ajm 81 17:47, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
The others are out as well, just not linked to the page yet: Zeta Harvey Franklin. -- Ajm 81 18:22, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
No changes with Franklin. Notice his peak winds (70 mph) were set with a 1001 mbar pressure - I kinda question the winds there. I think they may have overestimated Franklin. We learn nothing new with Harvey's report. No changes, and no surprises. They did drop Rita's intensity at landfall to 115 mph from 120 and the pressure is a record low for a storm at that intensity. It seems Rita and Katrina were indeed sister hurricanes, it just happened that Rita (fortunately) hit a much less populated area. Emergency organizations should think about redrawing storm surge maps. CrazyC83 19:34, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Alice was NOT broken! Zeta came 6 hours short. She had actually formed late on December 29th as a tropical depression. CrazyC83 19:34, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Whoa steady, four reports at once! I'll need some time to read them through properly... Pobbie Rarr 19:37, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
Beta's info still says that it was the 13th hurricane to form.Shouldnt it be changed to 14th? I know that Cindy was upgraded in her report, but i think it should be renoted. The 13th hurricane thing should be added to Wilma.HurricaneCraze32 14:43, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
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Archive 20 | ← | Archive 22 | Archive 23 | Archive 24 | Archive 25 | Archive 26 | → | Archive 28 |
Should a chart be made, like the death toll charts for individual storms, containing the cumulative death toll for all 2005 storms, by country, region and political unit? CrazyC83 18:25, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Leave an article with lots of available information alone, and it will do nothing but grow. This one has grown from 44k to 50k in the last couple of weeks, and is bordering on what I would call "too long". — jdorje ( talk) 07:41, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Check out this video. At about 36:55 Max mentions that there may have been another storm to meet the qualifications for a name. -- Ajm 81 21:47, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
Regarding a 28th named storm: at first I thought maybe it was TD22 as well...but it is not. They are looking at a system in early Oct in the eastern ATL that may have had tropical characteristics. 2005...the season that won't quit! Another surprise. Mkieper 14:36, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
I've just found this on the German Wikipedia. It would be great if someone could modify it for English (translate the months and the links and add links for others with English articles). It really demonstrates how continuous and constant the season was. — Cuiviénen ( Cuivië) 18:21, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Here you go (edit to see code):
--
Ajm
81
19:33, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
In addition to downsizing, would it be possible to show category on it? WotGoPlunk 02:06, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
How about compressing the timeline vertically, by putting all the storms onto a small number of rows, maybe 5? Then the concurrent storms will still be obvious and the total space required goes from 30 data rows to a much lower number. -- 86.139.249.40 10:46, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
What do you people think of the table reorganised like this? The 'standard' Category 1 color doesn't work in this form, perhaps changing the background color is the solution, seems preferable to giving ANOTHER palette for hurricane categories. -- 86.142.250.56 12:35, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
I added this here to demonstrate what else could be done with this timeline. The colors on Emily show the maximum intensity on each day using the established colors but while it certainly gives more information I think it looks ugly. The mark on Katrina shows when maximum intensity occured, this might be useful. I got rid of the '2005.41' by using 'ScaleMinor' instead of 'ScaleMajor'. -- 86.142.250.56 20:11, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
I've changed the colour of the background on the timelines to a light grey; seems to make more sense than to have another battle over the category colours when there is a simpler solution. Having said that I think the colours of cats 4 and 5 are too similar. I think it works if the colours are left alone; apart from Cat4 which could be changed to:
#ff8c40 |
-- 86.141.83.56 01:11, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Someone has uploaded the condensed timeline to the timeline article. As the discussion is here this is the logical place to discuss it, though maybe this whole thread should be moved (I'll figure that how to do that when I get a account I guess). There seem to be a few issues with the timeline as it is. While it is obvious what the timeline conveys, theres a few points which seem to be an issue.
Or is it just a waste of time being fussy over a matter of one day? It doesn't really matter to the timelines overall structure after all. -- 86.139.226.87 21:22, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Any idea when NOAA will be publishing the overall track map for 2005? I know that they have been used as part of the recent season pages other than 2005 and expect that it will be added when NOAA publishes them. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Naraht ( talk • contribs) . (sorry for forgetting to sign)
It is finally out; the NHC has decided it was briefly a category 5. TCR
YES!! I don't have to change any of my records!! Except now I have to fix a lot of them on here because people erased many of the Cat. 5 stats..... Here goes Heavy working on the records list again - Cory Pesaturo "The Snowman" FreeSledder 10:57, 13 March 2006 (EST)
HAH! The best one isnt the last. Lets just hope we get more intresting things. What if Beta becomes Cat4-we'll have a new record there. HurricaneCraze32 20:44, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Well look at that! Figured it almost had to be, but I'm surprised the NHC did it. And without lowering the pressure. A bit of a perk on an otherwise depressing weather news day. - PolitiCalypso 21:06, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
What an amazing season this was... — Cuivi é nen, 21:14, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
...I can sleep tonight! Weatherman90 02:52, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
Uh, WTF? What the hell happened to the article? The Wikipedia server is acting like it doesn't exist. -- § Hurricane E RIC § Damages archive 22:55, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that the Cat.5 and Cat. 4 colors look very similar. People that are colorblind might get confused. Maybe someone could change one or both of the colors to differentiate them more. Icelandic Hurricane #12 22:03, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
The reason for the lack of contrast between cat 4 and 5 was that someone had changed cats 3-5 to a darker shade and only cats 3 and 5 were reverted, cat 4 got missed. With the original colours restored this problems gone. -- 86.141.83.56 16:59, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
TD 27 was briefly a TS before dropping back to a TD, then regenerating into TS Gamma.
Now, if it had never become gamma, we would simply designate it TS 27, as would likely the NHC.
However, since it DID become Gamma, shouldn't we note in the timelane that it briefly became TS Gamma, designation retroactive? And then dissipated or dropped to TD, then back up to Gamma? -- Golbez 22:15, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Category 1s are practically the same as the background, and its really hard to see. Maybe the background colour should be changed.
Jamie|
C
19:38, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
My chart is (Ignore the Subtropical Storm)
Extratropical Edit - (779bEE) Edit |
Subtropical depression Edit - (violet) Edit |
Tropical depression Edit - (#E1CCFF) Edit |
Tropical storm Edit - (lightgreen) Edit |
Subtropical Storm Edit - (#ffe775) Edit |
Category 1 hurricane Edit - (#ffdd88) Edit |
Category 2 hurricane Edit - (#ffffaa) Edit |
Category 3 hurricane Edit - (pink) Edit |
Category 4 hurricane Edit - (#ff8f20) Edit |
Category 5 hurricane Edit - (#ff4343) Edit |
HurricaneCraze32 23:06, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
What about this? The link colour may have to be changed for Tropical Storm though.
Extratropical Edit - (cccccc) Edit |
Tropical depression Edit - (5ebaff) Edit |
Tropical storm Edit - (00faf4) Edit |
Category 1 hurricane Edit - (ffffcc) Edit |
Category 2 hurricane Edit - (ffe775) Edit |
Category 3 hurricane Edit - (ffc140) Edit |
Category 4 hurricane Edit - (ff8e0d) Edit |
Category 5 hurricane Edit - (ff6060) Edit |
WotGoPlunk 02:10, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Tropical depression Edit - (#66CCFF) Edit |
Tropical storm Edit - (3399FF) Edit |
Category 1 hurricane Edit - (#FFFF99) Edit |
Category 2 hurricane Edit - (#FFCC00) Edit |
Category 3 hurricane Edit - (ff8e0d) Edit |
Category 4 hurricane Edit - (FF6666) Edit |
Category 5 hurricane Edit - (FF0099) Edit |
How about this. I know Cat 5 is a little bit dark but you can still see the links . Pikachu9000 05:04, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
What colors are used on the French wikipedia? Their infoboxen were more mature than ours for a very long time, and they have colorcoding. Try theirs out. -- Golbez 06:51, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Tropical depression Edit - (5ebaff) Edit |
Tropical storm Edit - (00faf4) Edit |
Category 1 hurricane Edit - (ffffcc) Edit |
Category 2 hurricane Edit - (ffe775) Edit |
Category 3 hurricane Edit - (ffc140) Edit |
Category 4 hurricane Edit - (ff8f20) Edit |
Category 5 hurricane Edit - (ff6060) Edit |
Rita is out. Still cat 3 at landfall, pressure lowered a bit and max winds upped. -- Ajm 81 17:47, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
The others are out as well, just not linked to the page yet: Zeta Harvey Franklin. -- Ajm 81 18:22, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
No changes with Franklin. Notice his peak winds (70 mph) were set with a 1001 mbar pressure - I kinda question the winds there. I think they may have overestimated Franklin. We learn nothing new with Harvey's report. No changes, and no surprises. They did drop Rita's intensity at landfall to 115 mph from 120 and the pressure is a record low for a storm at that intensity. It seems Rita and Katrina were indeed sister hurricanes, it just happened that Rita (fortunately) hit a much less populated area. Emergency organizations should think about redrawing storm surge maps. CrazyC83 19:34, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Alice was NOT broken! Zeta came 6 hours short. She had actually formed late on December 29th as a tropical depression. CrazyC83 19:34, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Whoa steady, four reports at once! I'll need some time to read them through properly... Pobbie Rarr 19:37, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
Beta's info still says that it was the 13th hurricane to form.Shouldnt it be changed to 14th? I know that Cindy was upgraded in her report, but i think it should be renoted. The 13th hurricane thing should be added to Wilma.HurricaneCraze32 14:43, 18 March 2006 (UTC)