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I think this article is in need of some clean-up and reorganization. I'm proposing a new structure, for example clear pros and cons sections with better referencing. There are also some violations of NPOV which should be cleaned up. Any thoughts on how best to accomplish this before I take a stab at it? SlipperyN 15:47, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
I am wondering why the first 3 sections of the legislative text are included. The choice seems arbitrary. There are about 13 sections, the measure is about 2 pages long. Should ANY of it be quoted word for word? If so, how should it be determined how much? - Pete 05:45, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Considering the major impact on Oregon from the measure and its national significance, I upped the importance level. User:calbear22 17:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Before embarking on a project to give this article a makeover, an important question: should Measure 49 (and, possibly, Measure 7 as well) be included in this article, or should we be aiming toward separate articles?
I have edited a lot of Oregon Ballot Measure articles, and in many cases have found that it works best to make a combined article where multiple measures address the same issue. It has generally been easy to establish consensus among other editors that this is the way to go. I think the clearest case is the Oregon Death with Dignity Act, which resulted from a merger of articles on Measure 16 and 51. The resulting article does a better job of capturing the general context of the issue, and saves the reader from having to click around multiple articles.
I would like to see the same thing happen here, though I think it only makes sense if we can come up with an article title that establishes clear boundaries around the issue. Land use regulation in Oregon would make an excellent article, but it would probably cover too much to allow a lot of detail on Measures 37 and 49. Any other thoughts on how to carve this up? Or should we just accept that with such a complex and ongoing issue, an individual article on each piece of legislation is the best way to go? (If so, let's get an article going on Senate Bill 100, too!) - Pete 20:39, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
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help)So, wrapping up…it seems we are all more or less agreed that in the long term, an umbrella article titled Land use planning in Oregon would be a good thing, and that the most comprehensive info should be there. Then, notable pieces of legislation like SB100, M37, and M49 can have their own short articles.
To get there, I think this article is the most comprehensive we've got (though it definitely leaves a lot to be desired.) I think expanding this one, as though it were Land use planning in Oregon, probably makes sense, and once it is a little more comprehensive, we can move it, and create a briefer article for M37. That approach will take the least "management," and it seems we all have other things we're focused on.
Another option might be to copy this into a "draft" page, delete out the non-M37 stuff here, and build it up outside of main space. I don't prefer that, but I'd be OK with it. - Pete ( talk) 00:33, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
This provides a lot of data for the opposing side of view, but hardly any for those who support it (primarily stating who, rather than why, or the main issues argued for) 98.194.237.126 ( talk) 16:59, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
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I think this article is in need of some clean-up and reorganization. I'm proposing a new structure, for example clear pros and cons sections with better referencing. There are also some violations of NPOV which should be cleaned up. Any thoughts on how best to accomplish this before I take a stab at it? SlipperyN 15:47, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
I am wondering why the first 3 sections of the legislative text are included. The choice seems arbitrary. There are about 13 sections, the measure is about 2 pages long. Should ANY of it be quoted word for word? If so, how should it be determined how much? - Pete 05:45, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Considering the major impact on Oregon from the measure and its national significance, I upped the importance level. User:calbear22 17:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Before embarking on a project to give this article a makeover, an important question: should Measure 49 (and, possibly, Measure 7 as well) be included in this article, or should we be aiming toward separate articles?
I have edited a lot of Oregon Ballot Measure articles, and in many cases have found that it works best to make a combined article where multiple measures address the same issue. It has generally been easy to establish consensus among other editors that this is the way to go. I think the clearest case is the Oregon Death with Dignity Act, which resulted from a merger of articles on Measure 16 and 51. The resulting article does a better job of capturing the general context of the issue, and saves the reader from having to click around multiple articles.
I would like to see the same thing happen here, though I think it only makes sense if we can come up with an article title that establishes clear boundaries around the issue. Land use regulation in Oregon would make an excellent article, but it would probably cover too much to allow a lot of detail on Measures 37 and 49. Any other thoughts on how to carve this up? Or should we just accept that with such a complex and ongoing issue, an individual article on each piece of legislation is the best way to go? (If so, let's get an article going on Senate Bill 100, too!) - Pete 20:39, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
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help)So, wrapping up…it seems we are all more or less agreed that in the long term, an umbrella article titled Land use planning in Oregon would be a good thing, and that the most comprehensive info should be there. Then, notable pieces of legislation like SB100, M37, and M49 can have their own short articles.
To get there, I think this article is the most comprehensive we've got (though it definitely leaves a lot to be desired.) I think expanding this one, as though it were Land use planning in Oregon, probably makes sense, and once it is a little more comprehensive, we can move it, and create a briefer article for M37. That approach will take the least "management," and it seems we all have other things we're focused on.
Another option might be to copy this into a "draft" page, delete out the non-M37 stuff here, and build it up outside of main space. I don't prefer that, but I'd be OK with it. - Pete ( talk) 00:33, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
This provides a lot of data for the opposing side of view, but hardly any for those who support it (primarily stating who, rather than why, or the main issues argued for) 98.194.237.126 ( talk) 16:59, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
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