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I've decided not to delete this page altogether...it appears to be a potentially useful stub, if someone were to flesh it out. However, the idea of maintaining the timeline here was ill conceived, and thus I moved that material back to the main 2004 election page -- RobLa 06:22, 8 Dec 2003 (UTC)
I've replaced the long and visually horrendous list of primary and caucus results into what I hope is an understandable table format. Obviously, one we get towards Super Tuesday, we'll have to add another table below it... the other alternative would be to turn the table by 90 degrees... - Seth Ilys 01:38, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Why is this article called "primary" and not "primaries?" or "primaries and caucuses"? Adam 01:45, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
U.S. Democratic Party presidential nomination, 2004 will do. -- Jia ng
I attempted to rearrange the table on this page, putting the candidates along the top and the states along the side (the table can't expand enough horizontally to fit in all the states that will eventually come up, and so I was trying to set it up so that it could expand down the page rather than across it). However, something didn't work with the HTML, so I reverted my edit. I haven't been able to find where exactly the problem is, but the table always appears at the very end of the page, not in the proper section (despite appearing in the correct place in the Wiki code). My attempt at a new version of the table is in the Page History - is there someone who can possibly work out exactly what part I messed up? Even if people would rather keep the original table, I'd quite like to know what I did wrong for future reference. Thanks. -- Vardion 12:21, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I have removed Lyndon LaRouche due to the reasons given at Talk:U.S._presidential_election,_2004#LaRouche_deleted. -- iHoshie 04:50, 11 Feb 2004 (UTC)
i love the chart. it is easy to follow. kudos! however, the delegate totals don't seem to add up. Where did Kucinich get his 2? Where did Sharpton get his 12? Kingturtle 06:00, 11 Feb 2004 (UTC)
What's up with Wesley Clark's total number of delegates? When I add up the numbers in his row, I get to 68, but the total is only 57. He cannot have a negative number of superdelegates, can he? Andre Engels 14:11, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I added a superdelegate row, using data from CNN. Jxg 02:28, 25 Feb 2004 (UTC)
it is useful to the reader to see the dates each candidate dropped out. Please put those dates back in. Kingturtle 23:17, 25 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Should we color in Dean's victory and second-place finish(es) after Feb. 18? He didn't formally drop out of the race, after all, but "stopped actively campaigning". Jxg 01:34, 2004 Mar 3 (UTC)
Super Tuesday delegate counts are available at Yahoo. Kingturtle 02:48, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)
It is less than a year till January 20, 2005! By the time John Kerry is inaugurated on that day, I wonder what people will say! Interestingly, this is the first time in 200 years when there was a President elected in a year evenly divisible by 40 who survived his full 4-year term.
Well. We jinxed. JohnKerry2004 20:36, 20 Jan 2024 (UTC)
Much of the current article was pieced together from bits of other articles. Here's the list of articles I copied prose from:
I think that's all of them, but I may have missed one or two. -- RobLa 20:29, July 25, 2005 (UTC)
Does this section really belong in this article? It barely has anything to do with the actual topic, and has more to do with POV statements both for and against certain actions by the President during the war that have nothing to do with the Democratic nomination process. Jfiling 00:07, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
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@ MisterElection2001:, let's discuss on talk page so interested editors can see.
I have no issue with changing the colors for candidates. In fact, I agree that changing colors to things found in official campaign materials is appropriate and meaningful. Thank you for the thought you have put into this! However, we should ensure that we are changing all of the colors on this page at the same time. If, for example, we change Wesley Clark from yellow to green but fail to change the associated map image, it makes the map inaccurate. Instead of showing Clark as winning Oklahoma, it showed him winning Dean's contests instead. Likewise, Dean was changed to yellow and was then shown as winning Oklahoma according to the map. That is why I reverted your first edit. If you would like to change the map and legend simultaneously, I have no objections. I would assist, but I am not a map expert and it is likely to take me quite a while to figure it out. Michelangelo1992 ( talk) 02:33, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
I feel like maybe we should make it like the 2008 article, with like different options for the map to show who won first place for delegate allocation and also for convention roll call, cause like I dont know which map im looking at right now (eye)rizz ( talk) 02:01, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
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I've decided not to delete this page altogether...it appears to be a potentially useful stub, if someone were to flesh it out. However, the idea of maintaining the timeline here was ill conceived, and thus I moved that material back to the main 2004 election page -- RobLa 06:22, 8 Dec 2003 (UTC)
I've replaced the long and visually horrendous list of primary and caucus results into what I hope is an understandable table format. Obviously, one we get towards Super Tuesday, we'll have to add another table below it... the other alternative would be to turn the table by 90 degrees... - Seth Ilys 01:38, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Why is this article called "primary" and not "primaries?" or "primaries and caucuses"? Adam 01:45, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
U.S. Democratic Party presidential nomination, 2004 will do. -- Jia ng
I attempted to rearrange the table on this page, putting the candidates along the top and the states along the side (the table can't expand enough horizontally to fit in all the states that will eventually come up, and so I was trying to set it up so that it could expand down the page rather than across it). However, something didn't work with the HTML, so I reverted my edit. I haven't been able to find where exactly the problem is, but the table always appears at the very end of the page, not in the proper section (despite appearing in the correct place in the Wiki code). My attempt at a new version of the table is in the Page History - is there someone who can possibly work out exactly what part I messed up? Even if people would rather keep the original table, I'd quite like to know what I did wrong for future reference. Thanks. -- Vardion 12:21, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I have removed Lyndon LaRouche due to the reasons given at Talk:U.S._presidential_election,_2004#LaRouche_deleted. -- iHoshie 04:50, 11 Feb 2004 (UTC)
i love the chart. it is easy to follow. kudos! however, the delegate totals don't seem to add up. Where did Kucinich get his 2? Where did Sharpton get his 12? Kingturtle 06:00, 11 Feb 2004 (UTC)
What's up with Wesley Clark's total number of delegates? When I add up the numbers in his row, I get to 68, but the total is only 57. He cannot have a negative number of superdelegates, can he? Andre Engels 14:11, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I added a superdelegate row, using data from CNN. Jxg 02:28, 25 Feb 2004 (UTC)
it is useful to the reader to see the dates each candidate dropped out. Please put those dates back in. Kingturtle 23:17, 25 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Should we color in Dean's victory and second-place finish(es) after Feb. 18? He didn't formally drop out of the race, after all, but "stopped actively campaigning". Jxg 01:34, 2004 Mar 3 (UTC)
Super Tuesday delegate counts are available at Yahoo. Kingturtle 02:48, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)
It is less than a year till January 20, 2005! By the time John Kerry is inaugurated on that day, I wonder what people will say! Interestingly, this is the first time in 200 years when there was a President elected in a year evenly divisible by 40 who survived his full 4-year term.
Well. We jinxed. JohnKerry2004 20:36, 20 Jan 2024 (UTC)
Much of the current article was pieced together from bits of other articles. Here's the list of articles I copied prose from:
I think that's all of them, but I may have missed one or two. -- RobLa 20:29, July 25, 2005 (UTC)
Does this section really belong in this article? It barely has anything to do with the actual topic, and has more to do with POV statements both for and against certain actions by the President during the war that have nothing to do with the Democratic nomination process. Jfiling 00:07, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
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@ MisterElection2001:, let's discuss on talk page so interested editors can see.
I have no issue with changing the colors for candidates. In fact, I agree that changing colors to things found in official campaign materials is appropriate and meaningful. Thank you for the thought you have put into this! However, we should ensure that we are changing all of the colors on this page at the same time. If, for example, we change Wesley Clark from yellow to green but fail to change the associated map image, it makes the map inaccurate. Instead of showing Clark as winning Oklahoma, it showed him winning Dean's contests instead. Likewise, Dean was changed to yellow and was then shown as winning Oklahoma according to the map. That is why I reverted your first edit. If you would like to change the map and legend simultaneously, I have no objections. I would assist, but I am not a map expert and it is likely to take me quite a while to figure it out. Michelangelo1992 ( talk) 02:33, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
I feel like maybe we should make it like the 2008 article, with like different options for the map to show who won first place for delegate allocation and also for convention roll call, cause like I dont know which map im looking at right now (eye)rizz ( talk) 02:01, 2 January 2024 (UTC)