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" At around 7:00 P.M., a mobile Doppler radar detected winds of 318 mph inside a tornado that hit Moore, Oklahoma, but speeds up to 450 miles per hour could be spotted deep inside the tornado. "
The winds were actually 301 +/- 17 mph, and this is the first I've heard about any 450 mph wind. I'm going to edit this part of the article.
I agree that the 450 mph wind speed sounds somewhat unsubstantiated and erronious, but most sources have stated that the portable doppler radar detected a windspeed of 318 mph within the tornado. I find it hard to believe these sources would mearly state the upper end of a 34 mph range.
Thanks for the source; i apologize for the innacurate information and will make corrections.
It's important to note that the NCDC log contains tornado segments, with one segment per county for a tornado. Thus, if a tornado goes through 5 counties, NCDC's log will have five entries. As of 15 April 2006, the database from 1950-2004 is available with the Severe Plot software package from the Storm Prediction Center. From 1200 UTC 3 May 1999 to 1200 UTC 4 May 1999, it has 71 tornadoes listed in Texas (1), Oklahoma (58), Kansas (3), Nebraska (7), South Dakota (2). By F-scale, there were 38 F0, 16 F1, 7 F2, 6 F3, 3 F4, 1 F5. Hebrooks87 22:29, 15 April 2006 (UTC)Hebrooks87
I have taken into account the segmented tracks for this outbreak and the Andover Kansas Outbreak. Thanks for the info though. I will collaborate tornado reports for most of the recent outbreaks listed on the outbreak page in the coming weeks.
The tornado that had the wind speeds of 318 MPH is on the very border of an F5's upper limit... does that mean it's an F6? I doubt i'm the only one that considers it as such (an F6). NOAA chart, depicting this tornado as an F6 User:Raccoon Fox - Talk 03:10, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
There is no "Amber County" in Oklahoma. The "Amber" tornado is the same tornado as the Moore/Oklahoma City/Del City tornado, as can be seen in the track map. There was only one F5 tornado in the US that day (in fact, only one that year). Hebrooks87 15:58, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
Trying to get the count by F-scale right:
For those tornadoes warned on by the Norman forecast office, the tornado identifiers are included. See [ track map. Locations are in parentheses.
F5-1 OK-A9 (Amber-OKC-Moore-Del City) F4-3 OK-B20 (1st Mulhall), OK-E6 (Dover), Kansas-(Sedgwick County) F3-6 OK-A3 (Apache), OK-A6 (Laverty), OK-D4 (Stroud), OK-E3 (Kingfisher County), OK-G3 (Canadian-Kingfisher Counties), OK-G5 (Crescent) F2-7 OK-A8 (Chickasha), OK-A12 (Choctaw), OK-B17 (Piedmont), OK-D2 (Shawnee), OK-G6 (2nd Mulhall), OK-H3 (Hennessey), OK-H4 (Marshall) F1-18 2-Nebraska (Ewing and Hartingon), 1-Kansas (Mayfield), 15 in Oklahoma (2nd Sapulpa-Tulsa, and A14, B3, B8, B9, B10, B11, B16, B18, B19, D1, D3, E2, E7, I1) F0-38 2-South Dakota (Springfield and Greenwood), 5-Nebraska (Orchard, Creighton, Verdigre, Belden, and Niobrara), 1-Kansas (Augusta), 1-Texas (Maryneal), 29-OK (1st Sapulpa, A1, A2, A4, A5, A7, A10, A11, A13, B1, B2, B4, B5, B6, B7, B12, B13, B14, B15, C1, C2, E1, E4, E5, G1, G3, G4, H1, and H2)
Total for the day (1200 UTC 3 May 1999-1200 UTC 4 May 1999) = 73. Hebrooks87 17:51, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
The [ SPC top 10 damage table] has some serious problems and shouldn't be used. For starters, it only goes back to the beginning of Storm Data. Second, the use of the central values in the damage category that were used up through 1995 creates some really odd values, given the breadth of the categories (e.g., 50 million-500 million is designated as 250 million.) This is especially troublesome given that some of the cases have actually damage amounts in the text entry in Storm Data (the paper copies, not necessarily the online approximation.) As an example of this problem, combined with another problem, the first entry, with $1,250,000,000 in 1973 dollars is the Conyers, GA tornado. In the paper version of Storm Data, the damage is given as $89M for the tornado. This gets translated using the central value as $250M, nearly tripling the damage from the reported value. In addition, for that case, the tornado hit a total of 5 counties. In the online Storm Data, each county is credited as having $250M in damage (the central value of the class). When it gets taken from the county-based description back to the total track, that results in a total of $1,250M compared to the actual reported damage from the text description of $89M, a factor of 14 overestimate. On the other hand, the Wichita Falls tornado gets underestimated since the reported damage was $400M.
This doesn't even take into account the fact that inflation-adjustment is probably not the correct adjustment to make in any event. Wealth adjustment is probably more representative. A better reference to the history of damage, starting with the historical work on collecting damage estmates done by Tom Grazulis, is [ Brooks and Doswell (2001)], which gives both inflation and wealth adjustment numbers going back to 1890. From that, the Oklahoma City tornado is the most damaging tornado when inflation adjustment is applied, and 11th most damaging when wealth-adjustment is applied. 1896 St. Louis, is the damaging tornado by that metric, in US history. Hebrooks87 20:53, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Just a quick point: I'm concerned about the naming of this article. "Oklahoma Tornado Outbreak" is rather generic, and if 2007 for example brings another outbreak like that of 1999, that would further confuse things. Wouldn't it be better to rename this article "Tornado Outbreak of May 3-6 1999"? This is especially relevant since the event was from May 3-6, and not limited to Oklahoma in scope. I'm not trying to be difficult or anything, it just seems to me that the article name itself doesn't quite match the event. RoboNerd 19:28, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
On April 29, the son of Evil Knievel was scheduled to jump the Grand Canyon when a snow storm deluged the jump site. This was the storm that later hit Oklahoma. ( 205.250.167.76 21:29, 12 May 2007 (UTC))
Considering the numerous number of tornadoes from this outbreak, I've switch the location of the list to List of Oklahoma Tornado Outbreak tornadoes as the full outbreak had 140 confirmed tornadoes from May 3 to May 8
I believe the following should be "millions" not "thousands."
"2. Raw damage totals adjusted for inflation, in thousands of 1997 USD." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.140.196.111 ( talk) 20:13, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
In the main article, it says that wind speeds were clocked at 301 (and "+/- 20") miles per hour. But many television programs that I have seen say that there were actually at least two Doppler radar trucks on the scene and they clocked winds at 318 miles per hour inside the Moore, Ok Tornado. Darthvader1 ( talk) 03:15, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Someone added that the Mulhall tornado had winds capable of causing damage in a diameter of up to 7 km, as determined by mobile radar. I've not seen anything approaching this value in the refereed literature, including the big three papers by Wurman and/or the DOW team. There is a citation of "Wurman, 2007" in the text, but there is no associated reference or footnote at the end of the article. I do not know if this or any other source confirming the ~7 km measurement exists. A section with this information was also added to the Tornado records article and also requires verification.
Additionally, the article as a whole requires more references and some citations should be converted to inline references, so I've slapped a tag on the article which otherwise seems to have some decent information. Evolauxia ( talk) 11:22, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
David Green —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.180.62.106 ( talk) 15:57, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
I don't think over 10000 buildings were destroyed by the Moore tornado alone. I believe this is the total from the whole outbreak. If I am wrong, I would like to see the source that says so. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trilobite12 ( talk • contribs) 04:40, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
I really do not know how to cite on wikipedia, but here are my sources
This article needs expanding there were a lot more tornado's then just the ones listed this article needs to have info on all the tornado's-- Steam Iron 08:33, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
The Norman WFO made changes to their website that broke the URL to their event information page for this and other tornado outbreaks. The links are fixed now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Steppedleader ( talk • contribs) 03:33, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Just in case I feel up for it...
Cyclonebiskit ( talk) 17:40, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
The "Outbreak Death Toll" infobox is improperly categorized, as though somebody tampered with it since its creation. It now appears to be grouped along the lines of State|Fatalities|County|Fatalities in County Is there a chance somebody could resolve this issue? KirkCliff2 ( talk) 12:59, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Fixed-- Dcheagle • talk • contribs 19:22, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
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I removed a heavily outdated maintenance tag from when the article was far, far smaller, but United States Man added it back without explanation. The article looks like it has enough references, and so it appears quite unnecessary. Dustin (talk) 23:56, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
This page has been named "1999 Oklahoma tornado outbreak" for quite a long time now -- since 2004, as a matter of fact. It is hardly an uncommon name, with the outbreak being Oklahoma's most prolific outbreak on record. When it comes to outbreaks named after locations, I tend to be more opposed when said location is a city because the scale is too small. On the scale of a state, though, a better argument can be made. Oklahoma and the Oklahoma area encompass a very broad region where many/most of the most significant tornadoes occurred. I don't know at what point May 4-8 was added (even now, the article almost exclusively focuses on the May 3 outbreak), but those tornadoes affected a more nebulous area than the May 3 outbreak. That said, few of those tornadoes were particularly significant, and most of those that were occurred in states bordering Oklahoma and were not too far out of reach of the currently-existing title. I'm not saying there cannot be an argument made for a name change, but if there is one, it demands more elaboration than the brief edit summaries provided. Master of Time (talk) 05:24, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
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" At around 7:00 P.M., a mobile Doppler radar detected winds of 318 mph inside a tornado that hit Moore, Oklahoma, but speeds up to 450 miles per hour could be spotted deep inside the tornado. "
The winds were actually 301 +/- 17 mph, and this is the first I've heard about any 450 mph wind. I'm going to edit this part of the article.
I agree that the 450 mph wind speed sounds somewhat unsubstantiated and erronious, but most sources have stated that the portable doppler radar detected a windspeed of 318 mph within the tornado. I find it hard to believe these sources would mearly state the upper end of a 34 mph range.
Thanks for the source; i apologize for the innacurate information and will make corrections.
It's important to note that the NCDC log contains tornado segments, with one segment per county for a tornado. Thus, if a tornado goes through 5 counties, NCDC's log will have five entries. As of 15 April 2006, the database from 1950-2004 is available with the Severe Plot software package from the Storm Prediction Center. From 1200 UTC 3 May 1999 to 1200 UTC 4 May 1999, it has 71 tornadoes listed in Texas (1), Oklahoma (58), Kansas (3), Nebraska (7), South Dakota (2). By F-scale, there were 38 F0, 16 F1, 7 F2, 6 F3, 3 F4, 1 F5. Hebrooks87 22:29, 15 April 2006 (UTC)Hebrooks87
I have taken into account the segmented tracks for this outbreak and the Andover Kansas Outbreak. Thanks for the info though. I will collaborate tornado reports for most of the recent outbreaks listed on the outbreak page in the coming weeks.
The tornado that had the wind speeds of 318 MPH is on the very border of an F5's upper limit... does that mean it's an F6? I doubt i'm the only one that considers it as such (an F6). NOAA chart, depicting this tornado as an F6 User:Raccoon Fox - Talk 03:10, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
There is no "Amber County" in Oklahoma. The "Amber" tornado is the same tornado as the Moore/Oklahoma City/Del City tornado, as can be seen in the track map. There was only one F5 tornado in the US that day (in fact, only one that year). Hebrooks87 15:58, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
Trying to get the count by F-scale right:
For those tornadoes warned on by the Norman forecast office, the tornado identifiers are included. See [ track map. Locations are in parentheses.
F5-1 OK-A9 (Amber-OKC-Moore-Del City) F4-3 OK-B20 (1st Mulhall), OK-E6 (Dover), Kansas-(Sedgwick County) F3-6 OK-A3 (Apache), OK-A6 (Laverty), OK-D4 (Stroud), OK-E3 (Kingfisher County), OK-G3 (Canadian-Kingfisher Counties), OK-G5 (Crescent) F2-7 OK-A8 (Chickasha), OK-A12 (Choctaw), OK-B17 (Piedmont), OK-D2 (Shawnee), OK-G6 (2nd Mulhall), OK-H3 (Hennessey), OK-H4 (Marshall) F1-18 2-Nebraska (Ewing and Hartingon), 1-Kansas (Mayfield), 15 in Oklahoma (2nd Sapulpa-Tulsa, and A14, B3, B8, B9, B10, B11, B16, B18, B19, D1, D3, E2, E7, I1) F0-38 2-South Dakota (Springfield and Greenwood), 5-Nebraska (Orchard, Creighton, Verdigre, Belden, and Niobrara), 1-Kansas (Augusta), 1-Texas (Maryneal), 29-OK (1st Sapulpa, A1, A2, A4, A5, A7, A10, A11, A13, B1, B2, B4, B5, B6, B7, B12, B13, B14, B15, C1, C2, E1, E4, E5, G1, G3, G4, H1, and H2)
Total for the day (1200 UTC 3 May 1999-1200 UTC 4 May 1999) = 73. Hebrooks87 17:51, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
The [ SPC top 10 damage table] has some serious problems and shouldn't be used. For starters, it only goes back to the beginning of Storm Data. Second, the use of the central values in the damage category that were used up through 1995 creates some really odd values, given the breadth of the categories (e.g., 50 million-500 million is designated as 250 million.) This is especially troublesome given that some of the cases have actually damage amounts in the text entry in Storm Data (the paper copies, not necessarily the online approximation.) As an example of this problem, combined with another problem, the first entry, with $1,250,000,000 in 1973 dollars is the Conyers, GA tornado. In the paper version of Storm Data, the damage is given as $89M for the tornado. This gets translated using the central value as $250M, nearly tripling the damage from the reported value. In addition, for that case, the tornado hit a total of 5 counties. In the online Storm Data, each county is credited as having $250M in damage (the central value of the class). When it gets taken from the county-based description back to the total track, that results in a total of $1,250M compared to the actual reported damage from the text description of $89M, a factor of 14 overestimate. On the other hand, the Wichita Falls tornado gets underestimated since the reported damage was $400M.
This doesn't even take into account the fact that inflation-adjustment is probably not the correct adjustment to make in any event. Wealth adjustment is probably more representative. A better reference to the history of damage, starting with the historical work on collecting damage estmates done by Tom Grazulis, is [ Brooks and Doswell (2001)], which gives both inflation and wealth adjustment numbers going back to 1890. From that, the Oklahoma City tornado is the most damaging tornado when inflation adjustment is applied, and 11th most damaging when wealth-adjustment is applied. 1896 St. Louis, is the damaging tornado by that metric, in US history. Hebrooks87 20:53, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Just a quick point: I'm concerned about the naming of this article. "Oklahoma Tornado Outbreak" is rather generic, and if 2007 for example brings another outbreak like that of 1999, that would further confuse things. Wouldn't it be better to rename this article "Tornado Outbreak of May 3-6 1999"? This is especially relevant since the event was from May 3-6, and not limited to Oklahoma in scope. I'm not trying to be difficult or anything, it just seems to me that the article name itself doesn't quite match the event. RoboNerd 19:28, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
On April 29, the son of Evil Knievel was scheduled to jump the Grand Canyon when a snow storm deluged the jump site. This was the storm that later hit Oklahoma. ( 205.250.167.76 21:29, 12 May 2007 (UTC))
Considering the numerous number of tornadoes from this outbreak, I've switch the location of the list to List of Oklahoma Tornado Outbreak tornadoes as the full outbreak had 140 confirmed tornadoes from May 3 to May 8
I believe the following should be "millions" not "thousands."
"2. Raw damage totals adjusted for inflation, in thousands of 1997 USD." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.140.196.111 ( talk) 20:13, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
In the main article, it says that wind speeds were clocked at 301 (and "+/- 20") miles per hour. But many television programs that I have seen say that there were actually at least two Doppler radar trucks on the scene and they clocked winds at 318 miles per hour inside the Moore, Ok Tornado. Darthvader1 ( talk) 03:15, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Someone added that the Mulhall tornado had winds capable of causing damage in a diameter of up to 7 km, as determined by mobile radar. I've not seen anything approaching this value in the refereed literature, including the big three papers by Wurman and/or the DOW team. There is a citation of "Wurman, 2007" in the text, but there is no associated reference or footnote at the end of the article. I do not know if this or any other source confirming the ~7 km measurement exists. A section with this information was also added to the Tornado records article and also requires verification.
Additionally, the article as a whole requires more references and some citations should be converted to inline references, so I've slapped a tag on the article which otherwise seems to have some decent information. Evolauxia ( talk) 11:22, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
David Green —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.180.62.106 ( talk) 15:57, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
I don't think over 10000 buildings were destroyed by the Moore tornado alone. I believe this is the total from the whole outbreak. If I am wrong, I would like to see the source that says so. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trilobite12 ( talk • contribs) 04:40, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
I really do not know how to cite on wikipedia, but here are my sources
This article needs expanding there were a lot more tornado's then just the ones listed this article needs to have info on all the tornado's-- Steam Iron 08:33, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
The Norman WFO made changes to their website that broke the URL to their event information page for this and other tornado outbreaks. The links are fixed now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Steppedleader ( talk • contribs) 03:33, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Just in case I feel up for it...
Cyclonebiskit ( talk) 17:40, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
The "Outbreak Death Toll" infobox is improperly categorized, as though somebody tampered with it since its creation. It now appears to be grouped along the lines of State|Fatalities|County|Fatalities in County Is there a chance somebody could resolve this issue? KirkCliff2 ( talk) 12:59, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Fixed-- Dcheagle • talk • contribs 19:22, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
{{
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I removed a heavily outdated maintenance tag from when the article was far, far smaller, but United States Man added it back without explanation. The article looks like it has enough references, and so it appears quite unnecessary. Dustin (talk) 23:56, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
This page has been named "1999 Oklahoma tornado outbreak" for quite a long time now -- since 2004, as a matter of fact. It is hardly an uncommon name, with the outbreak being Oklahoma's most prolific outbreak on record. When it comes to outbreaks named after locations, I tend to be more opposed when said location is a city because the scale is too small. On the scale of a state, though, a better argument can be made. Oklahoma and the Oklahoma area encompass a very broad region where many/most of the most significant tornadoes occurred. I don't know at what point May 4-8 was added (even now, the article almost exclusively focuses on the May 3 outbreak), but those tornadoes affected a more nebulous area than the May 3 outbreak. That said, few of those tornadoes were particularly significant, and most of those that were occurred in states bordering Oklahoma and were not too far out of reach of the currently-existing title. I'm not saying there cannot be an argument made for a name change, but if there is one, it demands more elaboration than the brief edit summaries provided. Master of Time (talk) 05:24, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
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Hi. I saw that, in your article, you mentioned several times the amount of tornadoes that touched down, yet all of them are different, one being significantly different. In your first paragraph, you say that 154 tornadoes touched down, then you say that "a total of 72 tornadoes" touched down. Then, on your Fujita scale chart, you say that there are 152 tornadoes. Please fix this, so that I and everyone else reading your article may know the actual amount of tornadoes that touched down.