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What is this page's rating on the quality scale? Tennis 52 00:49, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
The article states that Doug Hansen died of hypothermia; reading the book, it seems clear to me that no one knows what happened to him. I thought that the only theory presented (as conjecture) is that he slipped and fell during an exposed traverse; only his ice axe was later found. Where did the hypothermia bit come from? Summitscribbler ( talk) 10:35, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Although Dougs most probible cause of death is hypothermia it was never proven.
Concerning this:
"In May 2004, Kent Moore, a physicist, and John L. Semple, a surgeon, both researchers from the University of Toronto, told New Scientist magazine that an analysis of weather conditions on May 11 suggested that freak weather caused oxygen levels to plunge by around 14%.[18][19]"
What does the term "freak weather" mean? Weather that is rare for near the summit of Everest? Or weather that is 'freakish' for elsewhere? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.68.236.67 ( talk) 23:09, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
http://www.de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Kangshung-06.PNG shows the southeast ridge from south col to summit, blue line. -- 80.145.212.95 ( talk) 18:52, 14 November 2008 ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_WhelanUTC)
I made the list conform to the style used in the August 2008 K2 climbing accident article list of fatalities by adding flags and by grouping expeditions, locations and causes of death. But note: I did not change the order of the list in any way. I have two questions:
The description of the actions of the Japanese climbers seems rather POV, especially considering the contrasting account given at Green Boots#Possible sightings by Japanese climbers. — × Flare × { Talk) 00:05, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
I appreciate that this is a word and means "to reach the summit", but might it be advisable to avoid it where possible? I've read a number of articles about Everest today, and despite seeing the verb used several times I nevertheless misread a sentence, parsing it as "Martin Adams and Klev Schoening had submitted but Beidleman and the remaining four Mountain Madness clients had not yet arrived." I assumed that a non-native English speaker had written that sentence and meant to convey that Adams and Schoening had "submitted to the effort" and had abandoned their attempt. I think this word has the potential to confuse many readers - for instance non-climbers or those for whom English is not their first language. The sentence fragment could easily be re-written Adams and Schoening had "attained the summit", "reached the summit", "arrived at the peak" &c. -- Stroller ( talk) 21:09, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
Why is this the last safe time and what is the window, the climbers have to reach the top ?
At the moment, it just reads as a fact out of no-where
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Analysis[edit] The disaster was caused by a combination of events including; 1 ,the sudden arrival of a severe storm that caught the mountaineers by surprise. 2, a one and half hour delay in summiting caused by bottlenecks at the Balcony and Hilary Step, these delays were in themselves caused by delays in securing fixed ropes and the sheer numbers of people arriving at the bottlenecks at the same time, (34 climbers on 10th May). 3, the team leaders decisions to exceed the turnaround time of 2pm with many summiting after 2:30pm. 4, the sudden illness of two climbers at or near the summit after 3pm. 5, Several climbers ran out of oxygen with guides having to carry bottles up to stranded climbers as the storm approached. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tommyxx ( talk • contribs) 16:46, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
I tagged the "Progression" section, but there are also stray paragraphs in other parts of the article that could use more citations. Most of this stuff should be easily cited to the Krakauer book (I can give it a whack if I find some time). — howcheng { chat} 23:22, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
The analysis currently cites the following major factor:“1. The sudden arrival of a severe storm that caught the mountaineers by surprise.“ Yet the lead of the article states that the storm was actually forecast and that the climbers launched their attempt to summit during a calm spell in the strorm. I’m pretty certain that they can’t have been surprised by something which was forecast. T v x1 05:04, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
This sentence is in one of th elead paragraphs:
Are South Col and South Face different, so there were events in three different places? or are they the same, so there were events in just two places? Seems ambiguous to me? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz ( talk) 23:42, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
The article states that the IMAX expedition brought back Hall's wedding band and cites this from Krakauer 1997. I just read the 1999 edition and there he clearly states that Viesturs did not bring back the ring, since he couldn't bring himself to dig Hall's body up from the snow. Instead he sat down and talked with him for a bit. 88.67.166.253 ( talk) 19:27, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
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What is this page's rating on the quality scale? Tennis 52 00:49, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
The article states that Doug Hansen died of hypothermia; reading the book, it seems clear to me that no one knows what happened to him. I thought that the only theory presented (as conjecture) is that he slipped and fell during an exposed traverse; only his ice axe was later found. Where did the hypothermia bit come from? Summitscribbler ( talk) 10:35, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Although Dougs most probible cause of death is hypothermia it was never proven.
Concerning this:
"In May 2004, Kent Moore, a physicist, and John L. Semple, a surgeon, both researchers from the University of Toronto, told New Scientist magazine that an analysis of weather conditions on May 11 suggested that freak weather caused oxygen levels to plunge by around 14%.[18][19]"
What does the term "freak weather" mean? Weather that is rare for near the summit of Everest? Or weather that is 'freakish' for elsewhere? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.68.236.67 ( talk) 23:09, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
http://www.de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Kangshung-06.PNG shows the southeast ridge from south col to summit, blue line. -- 80.145.212.95 ( talk) 18:52, 14 November 2008 ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_WhelanUTC)
I made the list conform to the style used in the August 2008 K2 climbing accident article list of fatalities by adding flags and by grouping expeditions, locations and causes of death. But note: I did not change the order of the list in any way. I have two questions:
The description of the actions of the Japanese climbers seems rather POV, especially considering the contrasting account given at Green Boots#Possible sightings by Japanese climbers. — × Flare × { Talk) 00:05, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
I appreciate that this is a word and means "to reach the summit", but might it be advisable to avoid it where possible? I've read a number of articles about Everest today, and despite seeing the verb used several times I nevertheless misread a sentence, parsing it as "Martin Adams and Klev Schoening had submitted but Beidleman and the remaining four Mountain Madness clients had not yet arrived." I assumed that a non-native English speaker had written that sentence and meant to convey that Adams and Schoening had "submitted to the effort" and had abandoned their attempt. I think this word has the potential to confuse many readers - for instance non-climbers or those for whom English is not their first language. The sentence fragment could easily be re-written Adams and Schoening had "attained the summit", "reached the summit", "arrived at the peak" &c. -- Stroller ( talk) 21:09, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
Why is this the last safe time and what is the window, the climbers have to reach the top ?
At the moment, it just reads as a fact out of no-where
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Analysis[edit] The disaster was caused by a combination of events including; 1 ,the sudden arrival of a severe storm that caught the mountaineers by surprise. 2, a one and half hour delay in summiting caused by bottlenecks at the Balcony and Hilary Step, these delays were in themselves caused by delays in securing fixed ropes and the sheer numbers of people arriving at the bottlenecks at the same time, (34 climbers on 10th May). 3, the team leaders decisions to exceed the turnaround time of 2pm with many summiting after 2:30pm. 4, the sudden illness of two climbers at or near the summit after 3pm. 5, Several climbers ran out of oxygen with guides having to carry bottles up to stranded climbers as the storm approached. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tommyxx ( talk • contribs) 16:46, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
I tagged the "Progression" section, but there are also stray paragraphs in other parts of the article that could use more citations. Most of this stuff should be easily cited to the Krakauer book (I can give it a whack if I find some time). — howcheng { chat} 23:22, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
The analysis currently cites the following major factor:“1. The sudden arrival of a severe storm that caught the mountaineers by surprise.“ Yet the lead of the article states that the storm was actually forecast and that the climbers launched their attempt to summit during a calm spell in the strorm. I’m pretty certain that they can’t have been surprised by something which was forecast. T v x1 05:04, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
This sentence is in one of th elead paragraphs:
Are South Col and South Face different, so there were events in three different places? or are they the same, so there were events in just two places? Seems ambiguous to me? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz ( talk) 23:42, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
The article states that the IMAX expedition brought back Hall's wedding band and cites this from Krakauer 1997. I just read the 1999 edition and there he clearly states that Viesturs did not bring back the ring, since he couldn't bring himself to dig Hall's body up from the snow. Instead he sat down and talked with him for a bit. 88.67.166.253 ( talk) 19:27, 16 September 2023 (UTC)