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The article says that "23,000 ethnic Georgians fled South Ossetia". This is nonsense. That is about the number of Georgians that lived in South Ossetia before the war. And we know that most stayed.
Also I think it should be mentioned that many Ossetians were driven from Georgia proper during the conflict - despite the fact that there was no fighting where they lived. Roffel ( talk) 13:13, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
This edit lengthened the background out of proportion. Additionally, it introduced several sentences copied word for word from dansk, without proper attribution. Was this copied over from some other article? -- Xeeron ( talk) 19:05, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Looking at the sources, during the conflict, neither side possessed something akin to a modern army. It seems as if the more organised units were akin to militias, while a significant part of actors were even less organised. Quote a lot of the fighting seems to have been done by armed individuals. I suggest not using the word "army" in here, unless refering to the soviet/russian one. -- Xeeron ( talk) 11:42, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
I haven't found any confirmation for the claim that Russian Interior Ministry Troops were dispatched. Is the source [1] really 100% reliable? It's only a dissertation, not really a professor-level academic work published in a respected journal. Also, what does the dispatchment of Russian troops mean? The source doesn't explain this. Offliner ( talk) 20:26, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Since we are at the topic of sources, I don't like this new source. It seems to be written as a compilation of civil wars, with SO only being one chapter. Furthermore, it contradicts other sources, eg. speaking about the demonstrators "After marching about 120km", were other sources state the more likely use of busses and cars. This source also states that there was "no history of conflict between Tblisi and South Ossetia", which is simply wrong. When conflicting with other sources, I will remove this. -- Xeeron ( talk) 22:34, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Can you please explain this a bit more? The book I used is a very reliable source. Exactly which sources contradict this? Offliner ( talk) 22:44, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Why is this version better? My version summarizes more things than this, such as the declaration of South Ossetian independence and events of the war (multiple offensives by Georgia that were repelled). Offliner ( talk) 22:35, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
This argumentation is wrong. My version doesn't say the war started out of nowhere, it says it started as a result of South Ossetia's declaration of indepence and the Georgian attack. Remember, that this article is about the war which started on 5 January, and concentrates on that. Also, the lead is supposed to summarize the article's contents (including the infobox contents), so the start date of war should be mentioned there. Offliner ( talk) 23:00, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure if this removal of a good source is a good idea. If you look carefully, the "crisisgroup" source is not quoting "dansk" for this info. It's quoting Julian Birch instead. Offliner ( talk) 22:47, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Check page 22, where it says: "Others reported that they were not permitted to speak Georgian." -- Xeeron ( talk) 21:05, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
HRW's publications are based on its staffers going to conflict regions, taking a look at physical damage, and conducting interviews with the people there. This is also the approach taken by almost any newspaper or other source of news. It is unfortunate that you feel that is not a reliable way of gathering information, but HRW found it reliable enough to include in their report and according to our policy, that is what counts. -- Xeeron ( talk) 15:00, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Please follow this link for discussion on this image: [3] Iberieli ( talk) 21:13, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
I agree with the second part of edit summary [4]. No, seriously, stuff like that needs an independent source. I suggest asking for 3O on this. radek ( talk) 05:56, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
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The article says that "23,000 ethnic Georgians fled South Ossetia". This is nonsense. That is about the number of Georgians that lived in South Ossetia before the war. And we know that most stayed.
Also I think it should be mentioned that many Ossetians were driven from Georgia proper during the conflict - despite the fact that there was no fighting where they lived. Roffel ( talk) 13:13, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
This edit lengthened the background out of proportion. Additionally, it introduced several sentences copied word for word from dansk, without proper attribution. Was this copied over from some other article? -- Xeeron ( talk) 19:05, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Looking at the sources, during the conflict, neither side possessed something akin to a modern army. It seems as if the more organised units were akin to militias, while a significant part of actors were even less organised. Quote a lot of the fighting seems to have been done by armed individuals. I suggest not using the word "army" in here, unless refering to the soviet/russian one. -- Xeeron ( talk) 11:42, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
I haven't found any confirmation for the claim that Russian Interior Ministry Troops were dispatched. Is the source [1] really 100% reliable? It's only a dissertation, not really a professor-level academic work published in a respected journal. Also, what does the dispatchment of Russian troops mean? The source doesn't explain this. Offliner ( talk) 20:26, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Since we are at the topic of sources, I don't like this new source. It seems to be written as a compilation of civil wars, with SO only being one chapter. Furthermore, it contradicts other sources, eg. speaking about the demonstrators "After marching about 120km", were other sources state the more likely use of busses and cars. This source also states that there was "no history of conflict between Tblisi and South Ossetia", which is simply wrong. When conflicting with other sources, I will remove this. -- Xeeron ( talk) 22:34, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Can you please explain this a bit more? The book I used is a very reliable source. Exactly which sources contradict this? Offliner ( talk) 22:44, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Why is this version better? My version summarizes more things than this, such as the declaration of South Ossetian independence and events of the war (multiple offensives by Georgia that were repelled). Offliner ( talk) 22:35, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
This argumentation is wrong. My version doesn't say the war started out of nowhere, it says it started as a result of South Ossetia's declaration of indepence and the Georgian attack. Remember, that this article is about the war which started on 5 January, and concentrates on that. Also, the lead is supposed to summarize the article's contents (including the infobox contents), so the start date of war should be mentioned there. Offliner ( talk) 23:00, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure if this removal of a good source is a good idea. If you look carefully, the "crisisgroup" source is not quoting "dansk" for this info. It's quoting Julian Birch instead. Offliner ( talk) 22:47, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Check page 22, where it says: "Others reported that they were not permitted to speak Georgian." -- Xeeron ( talk) 21:05, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
HRW's publications are based on its staffers going to conflict regions, taking a look at physical damage, and conducting interviews with the people there. This is also the approach taken by almost any newspaper or other source of news. It is unfortunate that you feel that is not a reliable way of gathering information, but HRW found it reliable enough to include in their report and according to our policy, that is what counts. -- Xeeron ( talk) 15:00, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Please follow this link for discussion on this image: [3] Iberieli ( talk) 21:13, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
I agree with the second part of edit summary [4]. No, seriously, stuff like that needs an independent source. I suggest asking for 3O on this. radek ( talk) 05:56, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Move to South Ossetia war (1991–1992): more consise. Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk 13:39, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
1991–1992 South Ossetia War → War in South Ossetia (1991–1992) – The War in Donbas (2014–2022) and the War in Abkhazia (1992–1993) use this format. WikipedianRevolutionary ( talk) 20:08, 22 July 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Frostly ( talk) 13:04, 3 August 2023 (UTC)