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Hello, wondering if we can update the article for accuracy. Thank you.
Some sources cite the number of strikers at 1400, versus 1500. Suggested new info:
Delete: The 1985â86 Hormel strike was a labor strike that involved approximately 1,500 workers of the Hormel meatpacking plant in Austin, Minnesota in the United States.
Add: The 1985â86 Hormel strike was a labor strike that involved approximately 1,400 workers of the Hormel meatpacking plant in Austin, Minnesota in the United States. [1] [2] [3] [4]
Some sources say the strike ended at 10 months.
Suggested new info:
Delete: August 17, 1985 â September 13, 1986 (1 year, 3 weeks and 6 days)
Add: August 17, 1985 â June 2, 1986 (10 months) [5] [6]
Then regarding the South Africa line, perhaps, more sourcing is needed since there may not be other unbiased sources that confirming 1. That there are ties between Hormel and the apartheid government of South Africa and 2. That the ANC supported Local P-9.
Delete: CCI also discovered ties between Hormel and the apartheid government of South Africa, leading to the African National Congress (ANC) supporting Local P-9 against Hormel.[15]
Add: Different TBD language regarding allegations of ties between Hormel and the apartheid government of South Africa. [7] [8]
Hello-Mary-H ( talk) 22:21, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
References
Some 1,400 Hormel workers went on strike on Aug. 17, 1985.
About 1,400 members of Local P-9 of the United Food and Commercial Workers walked out over wages and working conditions. Hormel, saying it needed to stay competitive, cut the base wage by 23% to $8.25 an hour in October, 1984.
About 1,400 members of Local P-9 of the United Food and Commercial Workers walked out over wages and working conditions. Hormel, saying it needed to stay competitive, cut the base wage by 23% to $8.25 an hour in October, 1984.
The strike of 1,400 workers began in August 1985. In January 1986, the company tried to resume full production at its $120 million plantâŚ.(Subscription required.)
By 1985, Hormel felt pressure to remain competitive. When the company demanded a 23 percent wage cut, about 1,500 workers with the United Food and Commercial Workers Union, Local P-9, in Austin walked off the job in August. The strike made national headlines and became one of the longest in an industry that was rife with them in the 1980s. After 6 months, the local union was ordered to call of the strike by the national leaders of the United Food and Commercial Workers. When the union members in Austin refused, local P-9 was placed in receivership and taken over by the national union. The 10-month strike devastated the city. Families stopped talking. National Guard soldiers patrolled the streets to keep the peace. And in this quiet community, red-faced screaming matches happened almost daily on the picket line.
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On August 17, 1985, about 1,500 Hormel Foods Corporation workers went on strike at the meat-processing plant at the company's headquarters in Austin, Minnesota. The strikers, members of United Food and Commercial Workers' Local P-9, cited a wage freeze, dangerous working conditions, and a wage cut as the reasons for the strike, which continued for ten months.
Jackson and Pierce also met with Nyberg at the corporate headquarters for about an hour. According to Pierce: The company was saying they had an obligation to the scabs. Jackson said, "When you look into the faces of your original workers, I know you can see two or three generations of people who have worked here. I simply ask you to search your soul and determine whether you truly owe the replacements more than you owe second- and third-generation workers who have been instrumental in building this company." I felt that we may have made some progress. . . . I know that Nyberg was genuinely touched. Nyberg denies that the conversation went like that. He says that Jackson asked about a link between Hormel and South Africaâwhich Nyberg said did not existâand "said he was very interested in the jobs of those who were not working." Jackson did not offer to mediate, Nyberg asserted, but said he would do anything he could to help the company and the union. "We said that mediation wouldn't be usefulâwe'd gone through the mediation process and gotten exactly nowhere." And according to Nyberg, that is where things were left, though Jackson telephoned him twice over the next few weeks.
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The three major networks back then â ABC, CBS, and NBC â all put permanent teams on site in Austin. Media coverage made the strike a debated issue. Somehow, Rogers and Guyette were afforded the opportunity to appear on Ted Koppel's Nightline program, and, as I recall, they announced that Hormel was a major food manufacturer in South Africa. In fact, I had refused to approve manufacturing in South Africa until the apartheid issue was resolved. We kept asking the media to verify that Hormel was not manufacturing in South Africa â with no response. Our people countered many of the misleading programs in Denver, Seattle, Atlanta, and elsewhere â everywhere we had the chance!
While Knowltonâs book says, âSomehow, Rogers and Guyette were afforded the opportunity to appear on Ted Koppelâs Nightline program, and, as I recall, they announced that Hormel was a major food manufacturer in South Africa. In fact, I had refused to approve manufacturing in South Africa until the apartheid issue was resolved. We kept asking the media to verify that Hormel was not manufacturing in South Africa â with no response.â
Regarding the striker count, three (not four) sources have differing numbers. There may be a formatting error, since the L.A. Times source shows up twice.
âThe New York Times says: âSome 1,400 Hormel workers went on strike on Aug. 17, 1985.â
âLos Angeles Times says, "About 1,400 members"
âChicago Tribune uses "1,400 workers"
Best regards, Hello-Mary-H ( talk) 22:38, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
Also, the article says that Jackson traveled to Austin to act as mediator yet the Green reference has information about the nature and validity of that wording:
Jackson and Pierce also met with Nyberg at the corporate headquarters for about an hour. According to Pierce: The company was saying they had an obligation to the scabs. Jackson said, âWhen you look into the faces of your original workers, I know you can see two or three generations of people who have worked here. I simply ask you to search your soul and determine whether you truly owe the replacements more than you owe second- and third-generation workers who have been instrumental in building this company.â I felt that we may have made some progress. . . . I know that Nyberg was genuinely touched. Nyberg denies that the conversation went like that. He says that Jackson asked about a link between Hormel and South Africaâwhich Nyberg said did not existâand âsaid he was very interested in the jobs of those who were not working.â Jackson did not offer to mediate, Nyberg asserted, but said he would do anything he could to help the company and the union. âWe said that mediation wouldnât be usefulâweâd gone through the mediation process and gotten exactly nowhere.â And according to Nyberg, that is where things were left, though Jackson telephoned him twice over the next few weeks.15
Thank you.
Hello-Mary-H ( talk) 20:30, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
The result was: promoted by
Yoninah (
talk)Â 23:47, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
* ... that
Jesse Jackson compared the importance of the
1985â86 Hormel strike to
collective bargaining to the importance the
Selma to Montgomery marches had on voting rights?
[1]
Improved to Good Article status by JJonahJackalope ( talk). Self-nominated at 18:24, 4 November 2020 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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QPQ: Done. |
Overall:
âvalereee (
talk) 12:49, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
ALT0a* ... that Jesse Jackson compared the 1985â86 Hormel strike and its importance to collective bargaining to the impact the Selma to Montgomery marches had on voting rights?
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Hello, wondering if we can update the article for accuracy. Thank you.
Some sources cite the number of strikers at 1400, versus 1500. Suggested new info:
Delete: The 1985â86 Hormel strike was a labor strike that involved approximately 1,500 workers of the Hormel meatpacking plant in Austin, Minnesota in the United States.
Add: The 1985â86 Hormel strike was a labor strike that involved approximately 1,400 workers of the Hormel meatpacking plant in Austin, Minnesota in the United States. [1] [2] [3] [4]
Some sources say the strike ended at 10 months.
Suggested new info:
Delete: August 17, 1985 â September 13, 1986 (1 year, 3 weeks and 6 days)
Add: August 17, 1985 â June 2, 1986 (10 months) [5] [6]
Then regarding the South Africa line, perhaps, more sourcing is needed since there may not be other unbiased sources that confirming 1. That there are ties between Hormel and the apartheid government of South Africa and 2. That the ANC supported Local P-9.
Delete: CCI also discovered ties between Hormel and the apartheid government of South Africa, leading to the African National Congress (ANC) supporting Local P-9 against Hormel.[15]
Add: Different TBD language regarding allegations of ties between Hormel and the apartheid government of South Africa. [7] [8]
Hello-Mary-H ( talk) 22:21, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
References
Some 1,400 Hormel workers went on strike on Aug. 17, 1985.
About 1,400 members of Local P-9 of the United Food and Commercial Workers walked out over wages and working conditions. Hormel, saying it needed to stay competitive, cut the base wage by 23% to $8.25 an hour in October, 1984.
About 1,400 members of Local P-9 of the United Food and Commercial Workers walked out over wages and working conditions. Hormel, saying it needed to stay competitive, cut the base wage by 23% to $8.25 an hour in October, 1984.
The strike of 1,400 workers began in August 1985. In January 1986, the company tried to resume full production at its $120 million plantâŚ.(Subscription required.)
By 1985, Hormel felt pressure to remain competitive. When the company demanded a 23 percent wage cut, about 1,500 workers with the United Food and Commercial Workers Union, Local P-9, in Austin walked off the job in August. The strike made national headlines and became one of the longest in an industry that was rife with them in the 1980s. After 6 months, the local union was ordered to call of the strike by the national leaders of the United Food and Commercial Workers. When the union members in Austin refused, local P-9 was placed in receivership and taken over by the national union. The 10-month strike devastated the city. Families stopped talking. National Guard soldiers patrolled the streets to keep the peace. And in this quiet community, red-faced screaming matches happened almost daily on the picket line.
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cite web}}
: CS1 maint: url-status (
link)
On August 17, 1985, about 1,500 Hormel Foods Corporation workers went on strike at the meat-processing plant at the company's headquarters in Austin, Minnesota. The strikers, members of United Food and Commercial Workers' Local P-9, cited a wage freeze, dangerous working conditions, and a wage cut as the reasons for the strike, which continued for ten months.
Jackson and Pierce also met with Nyberg at the corporate headquarters for about an hour. According to Pierce: The company was saying they had an obligation to the scabs. Jackson said, "When you look into the faces of your original workers, I know you can see two or three generations of people who have worked here. I simply ask you to search your soul and determine whether you truly owe the replacements more than you owe second- and third-generation workers who have been instrumental in building this company." I felt that we may have made some progress. . . . I know that Nyberg was genuinely touched. Nyberg denies that the conversation went like that. He says that Jackson asked about a link between Hormel and South Africaâwhich Nyberg said did not existâand "said he was very interested in the jobs of those who were not working." Jackson did not offer to mediate, Nyberg asserted, but said he would do anything he could to help the company and the union. "We said that mediation wouldn't be usefulâwe'd gone through the mediation process and gotten exactly nowhere." And according to Nyberg, that is where things were left, though Jackson telephoned him twice over the next few weeks.
{{
cite web}}
: Invalid |ref=harv
(
help)
The three major networks back then â ABC, CBS, and NBC â all put permanent teams on site in Austin. Media coverage made the strike a debated issue. Somehow, Rogers and Guyette were afforded the opportunity to appear on Ted Koppel's Nightline program, and, as I recall, they announced that Hormel was a major food manufacturer in South Africa. In fact, I had refused to approve manufacturing in South Africa until the apartheid issue was resolved. We kept asking the media to verify that Hormel was not manufacturing in South Africa â with no response. Our people countered many of the misleading programs in Denver, Seattle, Atlanta, and elsewhere â everywhere we had the chance!
While Knowltonâs book says, âSomehow, Rogers and Guyette were afforded the opportunity to appear on Ted Koppelâs Nightline program, and, as I recall, they announced that Hormel was a major food manufacturer in South Africa. In fact, I had refused to approve manufacturing in South Africa until the apartheid issue was resolved. We kept asking the media to verify that Hormel was not manufacturing in South Africa â with no response.â
Regarding the striker count, three (not four) sources have differing numbers. There may be a formatting error, since the L.A. Times source shows up twice.
âThe New York Times says: âSome 1,400 Hormel workers went on strike on Aug. 17, 1985.â
âLos Angeles Times says, "About 1,400 members"
âChicago Tribune uses "1,400 workers"
Best regards, Hello-Mary-H ( talk) 22:38, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
Also, the article says that Jackson traveled to Austin to act as mediator yet the Green reference has information about the nature and validity of that wording:
Jackson and Pierce also met with Nyberg at the corporate headquarters for about an hour. According to Pierce: The company was saying they had an obligation to the scabs. Jackson said, âWhen you look into the faces of your original workers, I know you can see two or three generations of people who have worked here. I simply ask you to search your soul and determine whether you truly owe the replacements more than you owe second- and third-generation workers who have been instrumental in building this company.â I felt that we may have made some progress. . . . I know that Nyberg was genuinely touched. Nyberg denies that the conversation went like that. He says that Jackson asked about a link between Hormel and South Africaâwhich Nyberg said did not existâand âsaid he was very interested in the jobs of those who were not working.â Jackson did not offer to mediate, Nyberg asserted, but said he would do anything he could to help the company and the union. âWe said that mediation wouldnât be usefulâweâd gone through the mediation process and gotten exactly nowhere.â And according to Nyberg, that is where things were left, though Jackson telephoned him twice over the next few weeks.15
Thank you.
Hello-Mary-H ( talk) 20:30, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
The result was: promoted by
Yoninah (
talk)Â 23:47, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
* ... that
Jesse Jackson compared the importance of the
1985â86 Hormel strike to
collective bargaining to the importance the
Selma to Montgomery marches had on voting rights?
[1]
Improved to Good Article status by JJonahJackalope ( talk). Self-nominated at 18:24, 4 November 2020 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems |
---|
|
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation |
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|
QPQ: Done. |
Overall:
âvalereee (
talk) 12:49, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
ALT0a* ... that Jesse Jackson compared the 1985â86 Hormel strike and its importance to collective bargaining to the impact the Selma to Montgomery marches had on voting rights?