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Seriously, Glenn Beck as a source? Ugh how about something *factual* and *reliable*
To be fair, it's Richard P. Wenzel who gave most of the information, and he seems like a reasonably reliable source. That said, most of what the Glenn Beck piece covers is also covered by the Emerging Infectious Diseases articles, so it could probably be swapped out for those if need be. I guess I support replacement since the journal articles aren't "rush transcripts", but are rather well-edited and well-reviewed. -- Underpants 12:22, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
Influenza A (Swine Flu) Propaganda video - 1976 [1] in Youtube. Lightwarrior2 ( talk) 04:35, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
How exactly can you put footnotes next to something that clearly didn't come from the footnote source? It says "hundreds died" from the 1976 yet everything I've read including the two sources cited next to this statement say 25 people died, from a condition THOUGHT to be caused by the vaccine. Someone needs to learn to count. 65.214.103.203 ( talk) 13:32, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
I think this page can fairly be said to be biased, but one glaring error is the issue of squalene in the vaccine - namely, squalene is a precursor in the synthesis of various sterols and some vitamins in the human body. It seems to have been hyped extensively in the spectre of flu vaccination, presumably in the absence of the knowledge on the part of the accusatorial parties that it is a natural entity and derived from shark oils, as well as having an unfamiliar/devious sounding name.
-- Astrocreep96 ( talk) 15:02, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
i do not mean to be unpleasant,but,esp during a swine influenza pandemic,the most pathetic thing you could put on wikipaedia is that vaccines cause gullian barre syndrome.are you encouraging people not to get the h1n1 shot? right now the most important thing people should think is vaccines are safe!do you want a even worse h1n1 pandemic? give me a break. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.244.148.235 ( talk) 19:39, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
I am worried that,as we are currently in the midst of the 2009 flu pandemic,people will come to this page,read that gullian barre syndrome can be caused by an "immunopathological reaction to the vaccine" and skip getting the H1N1 flu shot.I have posted the dubious template up next to this information. Immunize ( talk) 00:07, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
From the article: The vaccination program was plagued by delays and public relations problems, but about 24% of the population had been vaccinated by the time the program was canceled. – – – In total, less than 33 percent of the population had been immunized by the end of 1976. The National Influenza Immunization Program was effectively halted on December 16. I'll happily grant that 24<33, but I think this calls for some clarification: how large a percentage of the population (or I'd prefer to see the absolute numbers) did get vaccinated under the Influenza Immunization Program of 1976 before it was cancelled? — OttoMäkelä ( talk) 02:04, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
I was stationed at Ft Ben Harrison in In. at that time and received the Swine Flu shot in 1976 and got sick as a dog for three days. The next year 1977 was told to get in formation to go receive a second Swine Flu shot and I asked to skip it and I told my 1st Sgt. about getting sick in 76 in not such a polite way he told me too bad and get in line, which made me sick again. I am now disabled with a neurological disorder and no explanation why? I got the vaccine in 1976 & 77 and every since then been having problems with my legs and arms I know this is the long way to tell you that the military at least didn't stop the program until 1977!
Please contact me if you believe you are suffering from long term effects of the swine flu from 1976 or before. I am as well and I have a doctor interested in proving it but needs more case studies. Place Swine Flu in the header. ramup2@gmail.com
Firstly, Vixen 03 (1978) by Clive Cussler makes reference in passing to the 1976 Swine Flu outbreak, saying that the 'truth' is locked away in files with a 100 yr plus release date.
Secondly, Inoculate! (1979) by one Neil Bayne. The novel opens with a lethal flu outbreak at an airforce base in Michigan which rapidly turns into a worldwide epidemic. Investigators then discover that a cabal in the US government created the disease and deliberately spread it in an attempt to create conditions that would allow them to take control of the worlds remaining resource stocks.
Recently I've discovered a further novel, The Nightmare Factor (1978) by Thomas N. Scortia & Frank M. Robinson, this one opens with a Legonella style outbreak, but makes frequent references to the '76 swine flu outbreak.
I'm planning to write these up properly and add an 'in fiction' section to the page. It might be worth looking at novels/films/tv shows dating from 1977 to (say) 1980 to see if there are any other fictional references Graham1973 ( talk) 21:00, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Page seems long on conspiracy theory, short on science. Needs expert rework — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ocdncntx ( talk • contribs) 18:35, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
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The 1976 Legionella Outbreak took place only a few months after the Fort Dix outbreak, it might be worth mentioning this as this probably affected the decision to launch the vaccination program. Graham1973 ( talk) 21:09, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Removal of un-cited content. Check sources & explain findings clearly. Include progress made with flu vaccinations since that time. re-word to improve accuracy.
I'm open to other suggestions anyone else cares to make. Boneso ( talk) 06:30, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
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I'm going to do a rewrite of this page and am culling the dead and questionable links to start. If anyone has suggestions about sources, please let me know. LibraryLady623 ( talk) 17:13, 23 September 2017 (UTC)LibraryLady623
I just made my rewrite of this page live. I have updated citation and made the information more fact based. All suggestions welcome. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LibraryLady623 ( talk • contribs) 18:38, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
Since this event took place in 1976, it might be advisable to use the past tense in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.90.86.223 ( talk) 01:14, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
It states it was found there may have been a link between the vaccines and GBS. Then says the immunization program was ended. This indicates the vaccination program was ended because of the link between the vaccines and GBS, but remains ambiguous. VALENTINE SMITH | TALK 22:22, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
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Seriously, Glenn Beck as a source? Ugh how about something *factual* and *reliable*
To be fair, it's Richard P. Wenzel who gave most of the information, and he seems like a reasonably reliable source. That said, most of what the Glenn Beck piece covers is also covered by the Emerging Infectious Diseases articles, so it could probably be swapped out for those if need be. I guess I support replacement since the journal articles aren't "rush transcripts", but are rather well-edited and well-reviewed. -- Underpants 12:22, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
Influenza A (Swine Flu) Propaganda video - 1976 [1] in Youtube. Lightwarrior2 ( talk) 04:35, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
How exactly can you put footnotes next to something that clearly didn't come from the footnote source? It says "hundreds died" from the 1976 yet everything I've read including the two sources cited next to this statement say 25 people died, from a condition THOUGHT to be caused by the vaccine. Someone needs to learn to count. 65.214.103.203 ( talk) 13:32, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
I think this page can fairly be said to be biased, but one glaring error is the issue of squalene in the vaccine - namely, squalene is a precursor in the synthesis of various sterols and some vitamins in the human body. It seems to have been hyped extensively in the spectre of flu vaccination, presumably in the absence of the knowledge on the part of the accusatorial parties that it is a natural entity and derived from shark oils, as well as having an unfamiliar/devious sounding name.
-- Astrocreep96 ( talk) 15:02, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
i do not mean to be unpleasant,but,esp during a swine influenza pandemic,the most pathetic thing you could put on wikipaedia is that vaccines cause gullian barre syndrome.are you encouraging people not to get the h1n1 shot? right now the most important thing people should think is vaccines are safe!do you want a even worse h1n1 pandemic? give me a break. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.244.148.235 ( talk) 19:39, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
I am worried that,as we are currently in the midst of the 2009 flu pandemic,people will come to this page,read that gullian barre syndrome can be caused by an "immunopathological reaction to the vaccine" and skip getting the H1N1 flu shot.I have posted the dubious template up next to this information. Immunize ( talk) 00:07, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
From the article: The vaccination program was plagued by delays and public relations problems, but about 24% of the population had been vaccinated by the time the program was canceled. – – – In total, less than 33 percent of the population had been immunized by the end of 1976. The National Influenza Immunization Program was effectively halted on December 16. I'll happily grant that 24<33, but I think this calls for some clarification: how large a percentage of the population (or I'd prefer to see the absolute numbers) did get vaccinated under the Influenza Immunization Program of 1976 before it was cancelled? — OttoMäkelä ( talk) 02:04, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
I was stationed at Ft Ben Harrison in In. at that time and received the Swine Flu shot in 1976 and got sick as a dog for three days. The next year 1977 was told to get in formation to go receive a second Swine Flu shot and I asked to skip it and I told my 1st Sgt. about getting sick in 76 in not such a polite way he told me too bad and get in line, which made me sick again. I am now disabled with a neurological disorder and no explanation why? I got the vaccine in 1976 & 77 and every since then been having problems with my legs and arms I know this is the long way to tell you that the military at least didn't stop the program until 1977!
Please contact me if you believe you are suffering from long term effects of the swine flu from 1976 or before. I am as well and I have a doctor interested in proving it but needs more case studies. Place Swine Flu in the header. ramup2@gmail.com
Firstly, Vixen 03 (1978) by Clive Cussler makes reference in passing to the 1976 Swine Flu outbreak, saying that the 'truth' is locked away in files with a 100 yr plus release date.
Secondly, Inoculate! (1979) by one Neil Bayne. The novel opens with a lethal flu outbreak at an airforce base in Michigan which rapidly turns into a worldwide epidemic. Investigators then discover that a cabal in the US government created the disease and deliberately spread it in an attempt to create conditions that would allow them to take control of the worlds remaining resource stocks.
Recently I've discovered a further novel, The Nightmare Factor (1978) by Thomas N. Scortia & Frank M. Robinson, this one opens with a Legonella style outbreak, but makes frequent references to the '76 swine flu outbreak.
I'm planning to write these up properly and add an 'in fiction' section to the page. It might be worth looking at novels/films/tv shows dating from 1977 to (say) 1980 to see if there are any other fictional references Graham1973 ( talk) 21:00, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Page seems long on conspiracy theory, short on science. Needs expert rework — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ocdncntx ( talk • contribs) 18:35, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!
-- JeffGBot ( talk) 21:44, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
The 1976 Legionella Outbreak took place only a few months after the Fort Dix outbreak, it might be worth mentioning this as this probably affected the decision to launch the vaccination program. Graham1973 ( talk) 21:09, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Removal of un-cited content. Check sources & explain findings clearly. Include progress made with flu vaccinations since that time. re-word to improve accuracy.
I'm open to other suggestions anyone else cares to make. Boneso ( talk) 06:30, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
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I'm going to do a rewrite of this page and am culling the dead and questionable links to start. If anyone has suggestions about sources, please let me know. LibraryLady623 ( talk) 17:13, 23 September 2017 (UTC)LibraryLady623
I just made my rewrite of this page live. I have updated citation and made the information more fact based. All suggestions welcome. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LibraryLady623 ( talk • contribs) 18:38, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
Since this event took place in 1976, it might be advisable to use the past tense in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.90.86.223 ( talk) 01:14, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
It states it was found there may have been a link between the vaccines and GBS. Then says the immunization program was ended. This indicates the vaccination program was ended because of the link between the vaccines and GBS, but remains ambiguous. VALENTINE SMITH | TALK 22:22, 24 September 2021 (UTC)