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Reviewer: Bernstein2291 ( Talk • Contributions • Sign Here) 17:28, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
Should this have the "1940"? It is not necessary for disambiguation.-- Grahame ( talk) 01:10, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
How could the pilot of the upper Anson have controlled the engines of the lower Anson from the upper Anson? Sounds like a hoax to me. -- Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty | Averted crashes 21:43, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
Yes, but once the pair of planes is on the ground, and the engines of the lower plane roaring at cruise speed (or higher, probably), how would they be throttled down or turned off? Also, what's a "tailplane"? Terry Thorgaard ( talk) 16:59, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
Is it because "a historic marker" tends to imply "a marker indicating an historically notable place or event" while "an historic marker" tends to imply "a marker which is, itself, historically notable"? But if it's the latter, doesn't any application of "historic" to a marker, without further elucidation, imply that the maker itself is notable, history-wise? Some other word or phrase might be called for. On the other hand, "historic marker" is idiomatic and most everyone understands what is meant. Herostratus ( talk) 20:48, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
I noticed that the FAC blurb is longer than the article lead itself (181 words versus 120 words). Normally the FAC blurb is shorter than the lead; what do you think about replacing the current introduction with the more descriptive FAC blurb? AmericanLemming ( talk) 00:46, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
On 29 September 1940, a mid-air collision occurred over Brocklesby, New South Wales, Australia. Two Avro Ansons of No. 2 Service Flying Training School RAAF were on a cross-country navigational exercise and made a banking turn at an altitude of 1,000 feet (300 metres). Leading Aircraftman Leonard Fuller lost sight of the aircraft below him, and the pair collided, locking together and knocking out the upper Anson's engines. The lower Anson's turret wedged into the other's port wing root, its fin and rudder balancing the upper aircraft's port tailplane. Both navigators and the pilot of the lower Anson bailed out. Fuller found that he was able to control the interlocked aircraft using his ailerons and flaps, together with the still-functioning engines on the machine underneath. After flying for five miles (eight kilometres), he made an emergency landing in a paddock. All four crewmen survived the incident, and the upper Anson was repaired and returned to flight service. The freak accident garnered news coverage around the world and, according to the Greater Hume Shire Council, it remains Brocklesby's "main claim to fame".
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On 29 September 1940, a mid-air collision occurred over Brocklesby, New South Wales, Australia. The accident was unusual in that the aircraft involved, two Avro Ansons of No. 2 Service Flying Training School RAAF, remained locked together after colliding, and then landed safely. Both navigators and the pilot of the lower Anson bailed out after the collision. The pilot of the upper Anson found that he was able to control the interlocked aircraft with his ailerons and flaps, together with the still-functioning engines on the machine underneath. He elected to stay with the aircraft, and made an emergency landing in a nearby paddock. All four crewmen survived the incident, and the upper Anson was repaired and returned to flight service.
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"The pilot of the upper Anson found that he was able to control the interlocked aircraft with... the still-functioning engines on the machine underneath."
Having been raised on this page in 2011, it's remarkable that this nonsensical claim is on the main page today. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:13, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
Rather brilliant FA, well done involved editors! Best wishes 77.96.249.228 ( talk) 21:25, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
Shouldn't the last sentence of the paragraph, "Well, sir, I did everything we've been told to do in a forced landing—land as close as possible to habitation or a farmhouse and, if possible, land into the wind. I did all that. There's the farmhouse, and I did a couple of circuits and landed into the wind. She was pretty heavy on the controls, though!" be in quotation marks? Ward20 ( talk) 21:57, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Bernstein2291 ( Talk • Contributions • Sign Here) 17:28, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
Should this have the "1940"? It is not necessary for disambiguation.-- Grahame ( talk) 01:10, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
How could the pilot of the upper Anson have controlled the engines of the lower Anson from the upper Anson? Sounds like a hoax to me. -- Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty | Averted crashes 21:43, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
Yes, but once the pair of planes is on the ground, and the engines of the lower plane roaring at cruise speed (or higher, probably), how would they be throttled down or turned off? Also, what's a "tailplane"? Terry Thorgaard ( talk) 16:59, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
Is it because "a historic marker" tends to imply "a marker indicating an historically notable place or event" while "an historic marker" tends to imply "a marker which is, itself, historically notable"? But if it's the latter, doesn't any application of "historic" to a marker, without further elucidation, imply that the maker itself is notable, history-wise? Some other word or phrase might be called for. On the other hand, "historic marker" is idiomatic and most everyone understands what is meant. Herostratus ( talk) 20:48, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
I noticed that the FAC blurb is longer than the article lead itself (181 words versus 120 words). Normally the FAC blurb is shorter than the lead; what do you think about replacing the current introduction with the more descriptive FAC blurb? AmericanLemming ( talk) 00:46, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
On 29 September 1940, a mid-air collision occurred over Brocklesby, New South Wales, Australia. Two Avro Ansons of No. 2 Service Flying Training School RAAF were on a cross-country navigational exercise and made a banking turn at an altitude of 1,000 feet (300 metres). Leading Aircraftman Leonard Fuller lost sight of the aircraft below him, and the pair collided, locking together and knocking out the upper Anson's engines. The lower Anson's turret wedged into the other's port wing root, its fin and rudder balancing the upper aircraft's port tailplane. Both navigators and the pilot of the lower Anson bailed out. Fuller found that he was able to control the interlocked aircraft using his ailerons and flaps, together with the still-functioning engines on the machine underneath. After flying for five miles (eight kilometres), he made an emergency landing in a paddock. All four crewmen survived the incident, and the upper Anson was repaired and returned to flight service. The freak accident garnered news coverage around the world and, according to the Greater Hume Shire Council, it remains Brocklesby's "main claim to fame".
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On 29 September 1940, a mid-air collision occurred over Brocklesby, New South Wales, Australia. The accident was unusual in that the aircraft involved, two Avro Ansons of No. 2 Service Flying Training School RAAF, remained locked together after colliding, and then landed safely. Both navigators and the pilot of the lower Anson bailed out after the collision. The pilot of the upper Anson found that he was able to control the interlocked aircraft with his ailerons and flaps, together with the still-functioning engines on the machine underneath. He elected to stay with the aircraft, and made an emergency landing in a nearby paddock. All four crewmen survived the incident, and the upper Anson was repaired and returned to flight service.
Article introduction
"The pilot of the upper Anson found that he was able to control the interlocked aircraft with... the still-functioning engines on the machine underneath."
Having been raised on this page in 2011, it's remarkable that this nonsensical claim is on the main page today. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:13, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
Rather brilliant FA, well done involved editors! Best wishes 77.96.249.228 ( talk) 21:25, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
Shouldn't the last sentence of the paragraph, "Well, sir, I did everything we've been told to do in a forced landing—land as close as possible to habitation or a farmhouse and, if possible, land into the wind. I did all that. There's the farmhouse, and I did a couple of circuits and landed into the wind. She was pretty heavy on the controls, though!" be in quotation marks? Ward20 ( talk) 21:57, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
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As above. 178.16.15.40 ( talk) 14:10, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
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