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An outlandish claim that "A Jewish community had been established in Safed after the expulsion of the Jews from Spain in 1492." comes from a highly dubious writer Kameel Nasr, whose scholarly credentials are, well, non-existant. Pecher Talk 14:01, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
In the 11th century, "...there was a Jewish community in Safed, but we have no further information on the subject." Gil, M. History of Palestine: 634–1099, p. 214. Ian, may be it's high time you stopped pushing the POV that Jews are new immigrants to Israel? It's possible that the Jewish community in Safed was wiped out at a certain point to be re-established by Sephardi Jews in late 15th century, but citing only the re-establishment of the community without all its prior history is manipulative. Pecher Talk 09:17, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
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Oncenawhile
moved this article to the name "1929 Safed pogrom" today, with an edit summary "Reverted to original as move was without discussion. There are no wp:RS which refer to this as the "safed pogrom". Regarding the first complaint, that the "move was without discussion", there does not need to be discussion about a page move if no-one objects, and this page was moved over a year ago without objection, so purely procedural arguments are no longer valid.
Regarding the argument that reliable sources do not refer to this as a pogrom, many in fact do. For example:
Given that the reasons for the move were not valid, let's discuss if the article should, in fact, be moved. Jayjg (talk) 00:14, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
As we are discovering on talk:pogrom, the use of the word has certain implications. Since the name of this article has not been established as the WP:COMMONNAME, we should not use creating a name with complex connotations unless we are agreed that the majority of scholars agree with that interpretation. In the absence of such agreement, we should use a less "loaded" word in the page title. Oncenawhile ( talk) 09:07, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
An
eyewitness account which I intend on introducing into the article
Best Wishes
Ankh.
Morpork 11:11, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
22 victims are buried in Safed.
The last three were killed in Ein Zeitim. There is one witness account of a baby being among the victims, but, like at least two cases in Hebron, it is not accounted for. As opposed to Hebron, the majority of victims in Safed were Sephardi. -- ארינמל ( talk) 13:26, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
What make this different from the Hebron massacre? Consider most victims were female or elderly... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.156.183.252 ( talk) 11:52, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
Can any one explain when and why an article's title was moved from 'Massacre' to some 'Riots'? I do not see any appropriate discussion, as it was in 2012-2013 one above. -- Igorp_lj ( talk) 14:51, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
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An outlandish claim that "A Jewish community had been established in Safed after the expulsion of the Jews from Spain in 1492." comes from a highly dubious writer Kameel Nasr, whose scholarly credentials are, well, non-existant. Pecher Talk 14:01, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
In the 11th century, "...there was a Jewish community in Safed, but we have no further information on the subject." Gil, M. History of Palestine: 634–1099, p. 214. Ian, may be it's high time you stopped pushing the POV that Jews are new immigrants to Israel? It's possible that the Jewish community in Safed was wiped out at a certain point to be re-established by Sephardi Jews in late 15th century, but citing only the re-establishment of the community without all its prior history is manipulative. Pecher Talk 09:17, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
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Oncenawhile
moved this article to the name "1929 Safed pogrom" today, with an edit summary "Reverted to original as move was without discussion. There are no wp:RS which refer to this as the "safed pogrom". Regarding the first complaint, that the "move was without discussion", there does not need to be discussion about a page move if no-one objects, and this page was moved over a year ago without objection, so purely procedural arguments are no longer valid.
Regarding the argument that reliable sources do not refer to this as a pogrom, many in fact do. For example:
Given that the reasons for the move were not valid, let's discuss if the article should, in fact, be moved. Jayjg (talk) 00:14, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
As we are discovering on talk:pogrom, the use of the word has certain implications. Since the name of this article has not been established as the WP:COMMONNAME, we should not use creating a name with complex connotations unless we are agreed that the majority of scholars agree with that interpretation. In the absence of such agreement, we should use a less "loaded" word in the page title. Oncenawhile ( talk) 09:07, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
An
eyewitness account which I intend on introducing into the article
Best Wishes
Ankh.
Morpork 11:11, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
22 victims are buried in Safed.
The last three were killed in Ein Zeitim. There is one witness account of a baby being among the victims, but, like at least two cases in Hebron, it is not accounted for. As opposed to Hebron, the majority of victims in Safed were Sephardi. -- ארינמל ( talk) 13:26, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
What make this different from the Hebron massacre? Consider most victims were female or elderly... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.156.183.252 ( talk) 11:52, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
Can any one explain when and why an article's title was moved from 'Massacre' to some 'Riots'? I do not see any appropriate discussion, as it was in 2012-2013 one above. -- Igorp_lj ( talk) 14:51, 31 January 2019 (UTC)