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Remove the hard-coded image sizes.
MOS:IMGSIZE: Except with very good reason, a fixed width in pixels (e.g. 17px) should not be specified.
RESPONSE: w.r.t. image size . . . In each case the image size was either specifically chosen to match the layout of the wording in the image-associated caption, or it was specifically chosen so that the size of the particular image in question matched that of similar image(s) in close proximity; thus, at the moment, and for these reasons, the image sizes remain unchanged.
Lindsay658 (
talk)
18:31, 10 June 2022 (UTC)reply
What you're forgetting is that this will vary considerably depending on the size of the screen and that the reader is using, which could vary from a mobile phone to a massive 36-inch monitor. Fixing the image size overrides the reader's own preferences.
Hawkeye7(discuss)20:32, 10 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Lead
Remove fn 1. The lead is just a summary of the article.
I don't think the second paragraph belongs in the lead, since it is likely a coincidence.
"at Salisbury Plain" Link
Salisbury Plain. And it should be "on the Salisbury Plain", not at. We're talking about the military reservation in The UK that contains the camps (Larkhill , Tidworth, Perham Down) where the 3rd Division was training.
RESPONSE: All done – except in the case of the "link to Commons"; because, if I code the entry as you have suggested, rather than a "link" to the photograph in question appearing in the text, the actual image stored in Commons appears. This was not my intention; and it is not what I want to communicate. Is there a way in which the linkage to the Commons-stored image ONLY can be coded, so that the reader is sent to the Commons page -- rather than, that is, having the image automatically inserting into the text?
Lindsay658 (
talk)
18:31, 10 June 2022 (UTC)reply
"to be responsible for the (still intact) 3rd Division, and Lieutenant H. Bartram of the 2nd Brigade,[14] to be responsible for the (fragmented) 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 5th Divisions." I'm the expert on the First AIF, and I have no idea what you mean by "still intact" and "fragmented". The 1st, 2nd, 4th and 5th Divisions were on the Western Front.
References required for the paragraphs in this section.
"as at June 2022" Use the {{As of}} template here.
Delete the "AASC"
References required for Ruby Lind and Dan Lindsay
RESPONSE: As directed, I have changed "(as at June 2022)" to "(as of June 2022)" in the text. I have not been able to use the template because it does not permit "as of . . . ", but demands "As of . . . ". w.r.t "AASC" . . . If you look at the bottom right-hand corner of the sketch at page 10 of the programme, you will note that Daryl Lindsay’s work is signed "Dan Lindsay A.A.S.C." I believe that the "reference" issue with Ruby Lind and Dan Lindsay (both of which are noms de guerre of the individuals concerned) is now resolved – otherwise, the only way around the issue is to remove the linkages from "Ruby Lind" and "Dan Lindsay A.A.S.C.", respectively, and to insert the linkages to "Ruby Lindsay" and "Daryl Ernest Lindsay", respectively. in the adjacent passages.
Lindsay658 (
talk)
18:31, 10 June 2022 (UTC)reply
The {{As of}} template uses lower case with the {{{lc}}} parameter. ie
Reference required for Frank, Olsen, Robertson, Watt
RESPONSE: w.r.t. "Frank", I assume you mean Frank Beaurepaire: (a) already well referenced, and (b) linked to his Wikipedia article. w.r.t. "Olsson", the reader is clearly directed to look at the preceding section, relating to the goal umpires, where all of the appropriate "Olsson" references are supplied. Robertson and Watt, done.
Lindsay658 (
talk)
18:31, 10 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Player positions: Reference required for the table. (You can put it after the colon)
For future reference, there is a template, {{Aussie rules team}} just for this purpose
RESPONSE: Reference fixed. The reason for not using the template in this particular case is that the template demands a coach, and if, as in this case, there's is no coach, the use of the template generates an ugly extra blank line at the bottom of the team table.
Lindsay658 (
talk)
18:31, 10 June 2022 (UTC)reply
In future, consider using the {{cite}} templates. This will future-proof the article, as a Bot will be able to add archive links when the ones in the article decays
RESPONSE: "passim" inserted for Cheffers & Narleski (2003) because the whole work is relevant. Suggestion on templates noted (BTW all of the TROVE references cited are linked to their permanent URLs).
Lindsay658 (
talk)
18:31, 10 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Note that Trove provides you with a Wikipedia reference! If you click on the details button on the left (The i in a circle), citations will come up, including a Wikipedia citation which will look like this:
{{cite news |url=http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2152117 |title=SOCIAL EVENTS. |newspaper=[[The Argus (Melbourne)]] |issue=24,647 |location=Victoria, Australia |date=6 August 1925 |accessdate=11 June 2022 |page=10 |via=National Library of Australia}}
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Remove the hard-coded image sizes.
MOS:IMGSIZE: Except with very good reason, a fixed width in pixels (e.g. 17px) should not be specified.
RESPONSE: w.r.t. image size . . . In each case the image size was either specifically chosen to match the layout of the wording in the image-associated caption, or it was specifically chosen so that the size of the particular image in question matched that of similar image(s) in close proximity; thus, at the moment, and for these reasons, the image sizes remain unchanged.
Lindsay658 (
talk)
18:31, 10 June 2022 (UTC)reply
What you're forgetting is that this will vary considerably depending on the size of the screen and that the reader is using, which could vary from a mobile phone to a massive 36-inch monitor. Fixing the image size overrides the reader's own preferences.
Hawkeye7(discuss)20:32, 10 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Lead
Remove fn 1. The lead is just a summary of the article.
I don't think the second paragraph belongs in the lead, since it is likely a coincidence.
"at Salisbury Plain" Link
Salisbury Plain. And it should be "on the Salisbury Plain", not at. We're talking about the military reservation in The UK that contains the camps (Larkhill , Tidworth, Perham Down) where the 3rd Division was training.
RESPONSE: All done – except in the case of the "link to Commons"; because, if I code the entry as you have suggested, rather than a "link" to the photograph in question appearing in the text, the actual image stored in Commons appears. This was not my intention; and it is not what I want to communicate. Is there a way in which the linkage to the Commons-stored image ONLY can be coded, so that the reader is sent to the Commons page -- rather than, that is, having the image automatically inserting into the text?
Lindsay658 (
talk)
18:31, 10 June 2022 (UTC)reply
"to be responsible for the (still intact) 3rd Division, and Lieutenant H. Bartram of the 2nd Brigade,[14] to be responsible for the (fragmented) 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 5th Divisions." I'm the expert on the First AIF, and I have no idea what you mean by "still intact" and "fragmented". The 1st, 2nd, 4th and 5th Divisions were on the Western Front.
References required for the paragraphs in this section.
"as at June 2022" Use the {{As of}} template here.
Delete the "AASC"
References required for Ruby Lind and Dan Lindsay
RESPONSE: As directed, I have changed "(as at June 2022)" to "(as of June 2022)" in the text. I have not been able to use the template because it does not permit "as of . . . ", but demands "As of . . . ". w.r.t "AASC" . . . If you look at the bottom right-hand corner of the sketch at page 10 of the programme, you will note that Daryl Lindsay’s work is signed "Dan Lindsay A.A.S.C." I believe that the "reference" issue with Ruby Lind and Dan Lindsay (both of which are noms de guerre of the individuals concerned) is now resolved – otherwise, the only way around the issue is to remove the linkages from "Ruby Lind" and "Dan Lindsay A.A.S.C.", respectively, and to insert the linkages to "Ruby Lindsay" and "Daryl Ernest Lindsay", respectively. in the adjacent passages.
Lindsay658 (
talk)
18:31, 10 June 2022 (UTC)reply
The {{As of}} template uses lower case with the {{{lc}}} parameter. ie
Reference required for Frank, Olsen, Robertson, Watt
RESPONSE: w.r.t. "Frank", I assume you mean Frank Beaurepaire: (a) already well referenced, and (b) linked to his Wikipedia article. w.r.t. "Olsson", the reader is clearly directed to look at the preceding section, relating to the goal umpires, where all of the appropriate "Olsson" references are supplied. Robertson and Watt, done.
Lindsay658 (
talk)
18:31, 10 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Player positions: Reference required for the table. (You can put it after the colon)
For future reference, there is a template, {{Aussie rules team}} just for this purpose
RESPONSE: Reference fixed. The reason for not using the template in this particular case is that the template demands a coach, and if, as in this case, there's is no coach, the use of the template generates an ugly extra blank line at the bottom of the team table.
Lindsay658 (
talk)
18:31, 10 June 2022 (UTC)reply
In future, consider using the {{cite}} templates. This will future-proof the article, as a Bot will be able to add archive links when the ones in the article decays
RESPONSE: "passim" inserted for Cheffers & Narleski (2003) because the whole work is relevant. Suggestion on templates noted (BTW all of the TROVE references cited are linked to their permanent URLs).
Lindsay658 (
talk)
18:31, 10 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Note that Trove provides you with a Wikipedia reference! If you click on the details button on the left (The i in a circle), citations will come up, including a Wikipedia citation which will look like this:
{{cite news |url=http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2152117 |title=SOCIAL EVENTS. |newspaper=[[The Argus (Melbourne)]] |issue=24,647 |location=Victoria, Australia |date=6 August 1925 |accessdate=11 June 2022 |page=10 |via=National Library of Australia}}
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.