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Okay, so this might take awhile. I've been fairly busy in real life for the last several days, so I'll be doing this in chunks. Most of my wiki time lately has been going to cleaning up non-notable geography stubs, but this article is a lot more interesting than
Tan-Tar-A Resort Seaplane Base, so it'll be getting my attention.
Hog FarmBacon19:08, 11 September 2020 (UTC)reply
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List of Pennsylvania Civil War units says "This is because Pennsylvania numbered all regiments, regardless of branch, in sequence depending on when the regiment was raised. For example, the 6th Cavalry was also numbered the 70th Volunteer Regiment since it was raised between the 69th Infantry and the 71st Infantry, thereby there is no 70th Infantry.". If you can source that, it's worth a footnote explaining that, as it's interesting, and explains the number
Just as a clarification for the infobox, the date it first became active is generally considered to be the date it mustered into federal service, so January 1863 probably isn't the best beginning active date.
"Their first scouting task was on January 11, when a portion of the regiment went on a late-night patrol with the 1st Virginia Cavalry Regiment" - Probably best to mention that this was a Union regiment in the main body, not just the footnote
" the regiment became part of Colonel Richard Butler Price's Independent Cavalry Brigade," - Drop the piped link on Price per
MOS:EGG. It looks like you're linking to an article on Price, when you're really just linking the regimental article.
" then a battalion from North Carolina's 2nd Cavalry" - "then a battalion from the
2nd North Carolina Cavalry Regiment". Don't be afraid to redlink the 2nd NC Cav. It passes
WP:MILUNIT, and hopefully someone will write that article sometime. The current construction is fairly awkward.
Rebel generally isn't used for Confederate, as it's a little too informal to be encyclopedic. Yeah, it's a bit repetitive to keep saying Confederate, but it's more encyclopedic tone.
Might be worth mentioning that the great casualty disparity at Cold Harbor was due to futile Union frontal assaults
Added "Much of this difference in casualties was caused by Union infantry assaults on well-entrenched enemy troops, especially on June 3."
TwoScars (
talk)
18:42, 12 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Bristoe and Mine Run campaigns
"and Brigadier General Henry E. Davies, Jr. " - See
MOS:JR; drop the comma
"Casualties for the regiment in this October 11 engagement were one killed - We've already established this was on October 11, so you don't need to repeat that here
"fight Confederate General Jubal Early " - General was actually an official rank in the Confederate States Army, held by Lee and Samuel Cooper and A. S. Johnston and that level of leader. Early was technically only a Lieutenant General, so give the full rank.
" in places such as Charlestown, Bolivar Heights, Boonsboro, Sharpsburg, Shepherdstown, Berryville" - You mention it being on both sides of the river, so state which ones are in WV, and which ones are in MD.
Fixed. (Berryville is in VA).
Third Battle of Winchester
"infantry corps under Wright and Emory (XIX Corps)" - Only mention of Emory in the article, we need full name, rank, and link.
"Colonel (later Brigadier General) Rodenbough was the only Medal of Honor recipient, but his award was for actions while in another regiment" - The fact that he was the only one from the regiment to recieve the MOH is not in the source. Honestly, since they had not MOH recipients, I don't see a strong need to mention it in the article whatsoever, especially since Rodenbough was only briefly associated with the unit
Commented out this sentence. I had a problem that lasted for months with the
1st West Virginia Cavalry Regiment where someone insisted on including a MOH winner who had already moved to another regiment when the action occurred. Someone who was making small edits to a GA that made it wrong. If I have a similar problem, I might need to put the sentence back in.
TwoScars (
talk)
16:43, 14 September 2020 (UTC)reply
When was the muster-out date for the 3rd Provisional Pennsylvania Cavalry Regiment?
Is there a map of the Shenandoah Valley Campaign of 1864 that can be added here? It would add more to the reader's understanding than some of the portrait photographs do.
No OCLC online or in the front of the book. I have added an ISBN that works with Amazon (apparently only Amazon) for a republished version. If that is inappropriate, I'll remove it. I used the 1900 version, and I don't know if the page numbering is the same in this new version.
TwoScars (
talk)
16:43, 14 September 2020 (UTC)reply
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TwoScars: - I think it's good for GA now. There's two things I'd recommend if you're going to take this to
WP:MILHIST/ACR: Try to reduce some of the footnotes a little (they are very dense and numerous) and maybe add a bit of some background/context to the regiment's movements. I had to work on both on some of my more recent efforts. See
Landis' Missouri Battery, which is close to passing FAC, and
Slayback's Missouri Cavalry Regiment, which recently passed A-Class.
Hog FarmBacon14:26, 16 September 2020 (UTC)reply
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Hog Farm: Thank you for all your work. Next year, I may try to work on some of the North Carolina cavalry regiments—I have a few other things to work on first. I will follow your advice and use Slayback's Missouri Cavalry Regiment as a "template" for what should be done.
TwoScars (
talk)
14:53, 16 September 2020 (UTC)reply
18th Pennsylvania Cavalry Regiment received a
peer review by Wikipedia editors, which is now archived. It may contain ideas you can use to improve this article.
This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a
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Okay, so this might take awhile. I've been fairly busy in real life for the last several days, so I'll be doing this in chunks. Most of my wiki time lately has been going to cleaning up non-notable geography stubs, but this article is a lot more interesting than
Tan-Tar-A Resort Seaplane Base, so it'll be getting my attention.
Hog FarmBacon19:08, 11 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Lead
Link colonel, lieutenant colonel, and major in the lead
List of Pennsylvania Civil War units says "This is because Pennsylvania numbered all regiments, regardless of branch, in sequence depending on when the regiment was raised. For example, the 6th Cavalry was also numbered the 70th Volunteer Regiment since it was raised between the 69th Infantry and the 71st Infantry, thereby there is no 70th Infantry.". If you can source that, it's worth a footnote explaining that, as it's interesting, and explains the number
Just as a clarification for the infobox, the date it first became active is generally considered to be the date it mustered into federal service, so January 1863 probably isn't the best beginning active date.
"Their first scouting task was on January 11, when a portion of the regiment went on a late-night patrol with the 1st Virginia Cavalry Regiment" - Probably best to mention that this was a Union regiment in the main body, not just the footnote
" the regiment became part of Colonel Richard Butler Price's Independent Cavalry Brigade," - Drop the piped link on Price per
MOS:EGG. It looks like you're linking to an article on Price, when you're really just linking the regimental article.
" then a battalion from North Carolina's 2nd Cavalry" - "then a battalion from the
2nd North Carolina Cavalry Regiment". Don't be afraid to redlink the 2nd NC Cav. It passes
WP:MILUNIT, and hopefully someone will write that article sometime. The current construction is fairly awkward.
Rebel generally isn't used for Confederate, as it's a little too informal to be encyclopedic. Yeah, it's a bit repetitive to keep saying Confederate, but it's more encyclopedic tone.
Might be worth mentioning that the great casualty disparity at Cold Harbor was due to futile Union frontal assaults
Added "Much of this difference in casualties was caused by Union infantry assaults on well-entrenched enemy troops, especially on June 3."
TwoScars (
talk)
18:42, 12 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Bristoe and Mine Run campaigns
"and Brigadier General Henry E. Davies, Jr. " - See
MOS:JR; drop the comma
"Casualties for the regiment in this October 11 engagement were one killed - We've already established this was on October 11, so you don't need to repeat that here
"fight Confederate General Jubal Early " - General was actually an official rank in the Confederate States Army, held by Lee and Samuel Cooper and A. S. Johnston and that level of leader. Early was technically only a Lieutenant General, so give the full rank.
" in places such as Charlestown, Bolivar Heights, Boonsboro, Sharpsburg, Shepherdstown, Berryville" - You mention it being on both sides of the river, so state which ones are in WV, and which ones are in MD.
Fixed. (Berryville is in VA).
Third Battle of Winchester
"infantry corps under Wright and Emory (XIX Corps)" - Only mention of Emory in the article, we need full name, rank, and link.
"Colonel (later Brigadier General) Rodenbough was the only Medal of Honor recipient, but his award was for actions while in another regiment" - The fact that he was the only one from the regiment to recieve the MOH is not in the source. Honestly, since they had not MOH recipients, I don't see a strong need to mention it in the article whatsoever, especially since Rodenbough was only briefly associated with the unit
Commented out this sentence. I had a problem that lasted for months with the
1st West Virginia Cavalry Regiment where someone insisted on including a MOH winner who had already moved to another regiment when the action occurred. Someone who was making small edits to a GA that made it wrong. If I have a similar problem, I might need to put the sentence back in.
TwoScars (
talk)
16:43, 14 September 2020 (UTC)reply
When was the muster-out date for the 3rd Provisional Pennsylvania Cavalry Regiment?
Is there a map of the Shenandoah Valley Campaign of 1864 that can be added here? It would add more to the reader's understanding than some of the portrait photographs do.
No OCLC online or in the front of the book. I have added an ISBN that works with Amazon (apparently only Amazon) for a republished version. If that is inappropriate, I'll remove it. I used the 1900 version, and I don't know if the page numbering is the same in this new version.
TwoScars (
talk)
16:43, 14 September 2020 (UTC)reply
@
TwoScars: - I think it's good for GA now. There's two things I'd recommend if you're going to take this to
WP:MILHIST/ACR: Try to reduce some of the footnotes a little (they are very dense and numerous) and maybe add a bit of some background/context to the regiment's movements. I had to work on both on some of my more recent efforts. See
Landis' Missouri Battery, which is close to passing FAC, and
Slayback's Missouri Cavalry Regiment, which recently passed A-Class.
Hog FarmBacon14:26, 16 September 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Hog Farm: Thank you for all your work. Next year, I may try to work on some of the North Carolina cavalry regiments—I have a few other things to work on first. I will follow your advice and use Slayback's Missouri Cavalry Regiment as a "template" for what should be done.
TwoScars (
talk)
14:53, 16 September 2020 (UTC)reply