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Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 12:56, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
Thank you to whoever\\ is providing the episode details. The level of clarity and detail is not often seen for episode-based television shows on Wikipedia. 68.2.137.33 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:14, 21 April 2010 (UTC).
It says that her baby's dad was killed in a car accident? Can someone cite this? 69.112.221.166 ( talk) 18:38, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Here is the article....and it's not gossip. It's a real tragedy. http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=20230345&BRD=2703&PAG=461&dept_id=555109&rfi=6 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.103.254.146 ( talk) 17:34, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
If you watch Season 2 of Team Mom Farrah says in a session with a counselor that the dad died. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.174.88.211 ( talk) 00:03, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
I don't see why someone felt the need to change everything over to the subjects' last names. Most reality TV show summaries on Wikipedia use the first names of the cast members throughout - see the Jersey Shore (TV series) article and the Biggest Loser individual season pages for just two of many examples. It is confusing and inaccessible to refer to the subjects by their last names in the summaries. If no one has a severe objection, I will return the article to its original and easier to understand state. 173.166.13.161 ( talk) 20:01, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
I would say we should definitely go with their first names on an article such as this. The general public does not know their last names and it is their first names we see in the show every time they pop up. I would say Active Banana is right about no OR, though, even with the summaries being accurate. We need to source that stuff to the episodes; this does not mean urls need to be provided. The show is the source. Flyer22 ( talk) 21:12, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
This seems like it may be a pretty controversial show dealing with very sensitive topics that raise a number of questions. Is there a consensus on the value of this show? Maybe more importantly, is it regarded as exploitative? Phenylphree ( talk) 17:06, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Further edit: this seems to be a pretty notable show these days. Given the publicity it receives and the fragile subject matter, should we consider making this a higher priority article? I see it is 'low priority' right now. Phenylphree ( talk) 17:09, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
would it be possible to put a graph showing teen birth rates before and after this show premiered? if you look at the difference between the gentle downward slope before 2009 and the steep decline afterwards? the impact seems pretty clear Here and also Here 38.103.136.34 ( talk) 20:50, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
I came to the wiki page to see if there is a reason why nearly every episode (or at least a majority) are filmed in Southern states? Any ideas on this? Just curious. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdrumstik ( talk • contribs) 07:02, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!
-- JeffGBot ( talk) 19:14, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
I just undid a major change by someone who took out ALL the episode detail.
On one hand, I understand the motivation for the major change and the editor is totally correct that "Wikipedia is not a TV guide", but on the other hand, the documentary-style format with each episode having different dramatic turns, lends itself to a description of the episodes. Also, this is a particularly controversial show.
As a reference point, there are lot of TV shows that have episode guides on Wikipedia...sometimes even separate articles for each episode.
So, I lean toward distilling the episode descriptions, but still having them, and they should all be moved to a Episodes page, like most shows with episode descriptions (e.g. Mission: Impossible and Lost In Space) Thoughts? I'll do the work, but I didn't want to bother if that new page, via eventual concensus, is just going to eventually get blown away for the same reason this got massively shortened last night.
-- PoughkeepsieNative ( talk) 09:40, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
I've created an episodes page, moved the episodes to it, and did a major clean up on the episode descriptions. They were shortened to describe the episode rather than give all the plot details. Also, unsourced material about living people was removed. I also removed the WikiWarnings from this page since they no longer apply following the clean up. -- PoughkeepsieNative ( talk) 12:37, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 23 August 2021 and 17 December 2021. Further details are available
on the course page. Student editor(s):
Kimchi Hart. Peer reviewers:
Coca-a-costa,
Doriannv,
Iya5678,
UhannahlundU,
Courtjayy.
Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 12:56, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
Thank you to whoever\\ is providing the episode details. The level of clarity and detail is not often seen for episode-based television shows on Wikipedia. 68.2.137.33 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:14, 21 April 2010 (UTC).
It says that her baby's dad was killed in a car accident? Can someone cite this? 69.112.221.166 ( talk) 18:38, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Here is the article....and it's not gossip. It's a real tragedy. http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=20230345&BRD=2703&PAG=461&dept_id=555109&rfi=6 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.103.254.146 ( talk) 17:34, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
If you watch Season 2 of Team Mom Farrah says in a session with a counselor that the dad died. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.174.88.211 ( talk) 00:03, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
I don't see why someone felt the need to change everything over to the subjects' last names. Most reality TV show summaries on Wikipedia use the first names of the cast members throughout - see the Jersey Shore (TV series) article and the Biggest Loser individual season pages for just two of many examples. It is confusing and inaccessible to refer to the subjects by their last names in the summaries. If no one has a severe objection, I will return the article to its original and easier to understand state. 173.166.13.161 ( talk) 20:01, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
I would say we should definitely go with their first names on an article such as this. The general public does not know their last names and it is their first names we see in the show every time they pop up. I would say Active Banana is right about no OR, though, even with the summaries being accurate. We need to source that stuff to the episodes; this does not mean urls need to be provided. The show is the source. Flyer22 ( talk) 21:12, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
This seems like it may be a pretty controversial show dealing with very sensitive topics that raise a number of questions. Is there a consensus on the value of this show? Maybe more importantly, is it regarded as exploitative? Phenylphree ( talk) 17:06, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Further edit: this seems to be a pretty notable show these days. Given the publicity it receives and the fragile subject matter, should we consider making this a higher priority article? I see it is 'low priority' right now. Phenylphree ( talk) 17:09, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
would it be possible to put a graph showing teen birth rates before and after this show premiered? if you look at the difference between the gentle downward slope before 2009 and the steep decline afterwards? the impact seems pretty clear Here and also Here 38.103.136.34 ( talk) 20:50, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
I came to the wiki page to see if there is a reason why nearly every episode (or at least a majority) are filmed in Southern states? Any ideas on this? Just curious. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdrumstik ( talk • contribs) 07:02, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!
-- JeffGBot ( talk) 19:14, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
I just undid a major change by someone who took out ALL the episode detail.
On one hand, I understand the motivation for the major change and the editor is totally correct that "Wikipedia is not a TV guide", but on the other hand, the documentary-style format with each episode having different dramatic turns, lends itself to a description of the episodes. Also, this is a particularly controversial show.
As a reference point, there are lot of TV shows that have episode guides on Wikipedia...sometimes even separate articles for each episode.
So, I lean toward distilling the episode descriptions, but still having them, and they should all be moved to a Episodes page, like most shows with episode descriptions (e.g. Mission: Impossible and Lost In Space) Thoughts? I'll do the work, but I didn't want to bother if that new page, via eventual concensus, is just going to eventually get blown away for the same reason this got massively shortened last night.
-- PoughkeepsieNative ( talk) 09:40, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
I've created an episodes page, moved the episodes to it, and did a major clean up on the episode descriptions. They were shortened to describe the episode rather than give all the plot details. Also, unsourced material about living people was removed. I also removed the WikiWarnings from this page since they no longer apply following the clean up. -- PoughkeepsieNative ( talk) 12:37, 28 May 2012 (UTC)