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Hi I don't really understand Wikipedia but jsyk Laura recently stated on her IG story that the remix album is no longer called 1000 gecs & the phantom menace. She did not specify a new name. You can find a screenshot of this IG story on the 100 gecs subreddit — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.197.63.234 ( talk) 20:25, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
I am sure this is going to be difficult to come up with but I was wondering if anyone would be in favor of giving more specific infobox genres or leaving them broad and as they are. I propose that if infobox genres are added they should go like this:
Either this or just experimental should be left in the infobox due to the constant genre shifts, even outside genres that can be easily categorized into pop, rock, electronic, and hip hop (for example ska). Dekai Averett ( talk) 18:55, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
Is there any particular reason why the article's name doesn't use the band's official branding ("100 Gecs" vs "100 gecs")? Couldn't the official branding be used as the article title with the {{lowercase title}} template? Casiotone Nation ( talk) 21:48, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
"Celebration Day" is a song by English rock band Led Zeppelin, not
The third track of Led Zeppelin III (stylized "Celebration Day"). I would have to do some more reading to see what the actual coverage for these albums says, but I suspect that if they're titled lowercase then the articles belong there. jp× g 11:31, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
/10{1,2},{0,1}0{0,3} [Gg]ecs/
or something.
jp×
g 12:03, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
Hello, all. I'm relatively new to editing and trying to get the formatting right in my first talk page post, so please forgive me if it looks weird. I will try to fix. We should discuss how to address the origin of the name 100 gecs. There is a problem in that there are conflicting stories about it that come from similar sources. There are a few different ways we can move forward with this. Below is my analysis of the problem and ways it can be addressed. This is important because this article comes up right away when I Google 100 gecs name origin and there are multiple answers that could be better than what is there now. Currently, the article reads with the following.
Les and Brady chose the name "100 gecs" after seeing the words spray-painted on the side of a building in Chicago.
To back this up, the article cites a video of Laura Les telling that name origin story in a Pigeons & Planes interview from June 17, 2020 on Youtube (which is currently reference #14 on the page). [1] That seems pretty straightforward. However, there is a Genius interview on Youtube from June 29, 2020 where Laura tells a name origin story about how she accidentally ordered too many geckos. [2] I have seen fan speculation that the group is changing the story each time they are asked. However, I have not seen the apparent conflict in stories directly addressed in any notable source.
Aside from these videos, published sources that I could find have mainly focused on the gecko name origin story. An article in The Outline retold the gecko story, with some added skepticism regarding its sincerity, in August 2019. [3] Rolling Stone later referenced The Outline's article in their piece published in December 2019. [4] Vanity Fair also mentioned geckos in an article on 100 gecs in November 2019. [5] Los Angeles Times referenced geckos as well in a piece they published in December 2019. [6]
There are a couple ways we can move forward. A) Put one of the stories in the article, geckos or spray paint. B) Put both of the stories in the article and/or note the existence of conflicting stories. C) Put none of the stories in the article and do not mention/explain the origin of the name. The main problem with option A is that these videos of Laura telling stories of the band's origin seem to conflict, so it is unclear which would be the best to use. The geckos story has the more recently published video and is referenced in more notable sources, so I think it's a little better to put that one if only one is chosen. However, I think the fact that Laura has contradicted it in another video suggests it may not be reliable. That leads to considering option B, which would be to note that different origin stories for the name have been given in different interviews. The problem that I see with this is that it borders on primary research. No notable source has said that there is a conflict between these stories. It seems to be mostly people on reddit and in Youtube comments sections who have noticed this so far. The article published in The Outline speculated that Laura's story about geckos may not have been serious, but I have not found a good source citing multiple stories and saying they conflict. As a result, I am concerned that option B would constitute original research and making an original claim, which is not what Wikipedia is about. I also have some concern that it might border on making an accusation of a living person, though the evidence from the videos hardly makes saying that there are conflicting stories a stretch. Option C might be the best because there is not really any source we can reference that addresses the conflict between these stories and there obviously is a good deal of ambiguity at play here. It is tempting to say something about the origin of the band name since the band has provided some information about it, but I do not think we actually have any information that we can say meets Wikipedia's standards to put there right now.
What do other editors think? Has anyone found other sources that could be useful to address this issue? Which option is best to use for the article for now? I personally would lean toward option C given the information I have at present. Logogeo96 ( talk) 05:01, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
Les and Brady chose the name "100 gecs" after Laura accidentally adopted 100 geckos
References
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 17 January 2023 and 9 May 2023. Further details are available
on the course page. Student editor(s):
AceBunnyHop (
article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by AceBunnyHop ( talk) 15:58, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
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![]() | Laura Les was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 7 August 2020 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into 100 gecs. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
Hi I don't really understand Wikipedia but jsyk Laura recently stated on her IG story that the remix album is no longer called 1000 gecs & the phantom menace. She did not specify a new name. You can find a screenshot of this IG story on the 100 gecs subreddit — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.197.63.234 ( talk) 20:25, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
I am sure this is going to be difficult to come up with but I was wondering if anyone would be in favor of giving more specific infobox genres or leaving them broad and as they are. I propose that if infobox genres are added they should go like this:
Either this or just experimental should be left in the infobox due to the constant genre shifts, even outside genres that can be easily categorized into pop, rock, electronic, and hip hop (for example ska). Dekai Averett ( talk) 18:55, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
Is there any particular reason why the article's name doesn't use the band's official branding ("100 Gecs" vs "100 gecs")? Couldn't the official branding be used as the article title with the {{lowercase title}} template? Casiotone Nation ( talk) 21:48, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
"Celebration Day" is a song by English rock band Led Zeppelin, not
The third track of Led Zeppelin III (stylized "Celebration Day"). I would have to do some more reading to see what the actual coverage for these albums says, but I suspect that if they're titled lowercase then the articles belong there. jp× g 11:31, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
/10{1,2},{0,1}0{0,3} [Gg]ecs/
or something.
jp×
g 12:03, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
Hello, all. I'm relatively new to editing and trying to get the formatting right in my first talk page post, so please forgive me if it looks weird. I will try to fix. We should discuss how to address the origin of the name 100 gecs. There is a problem in that there are conflicting stories about it that come from similar sources. There are a few different ways we can move forward with this. Below is my analysis of the problem and ways it can be addressed. This is important because this article comes up right away when I Google 100 gecs name origin and there are multiple answers that could be better than what is there now. Currently, the article reads with the following.
Les and Brady chose the name "100 gecs" after seeing the words spray-painted on the side of a building in Chicago.
To back this up, the article cites a video of Laura Les telling that name origin story in a Pigeons & Planes interview from June 17, 2020 on Youtube (which is currently reference #14 on the page). [1] That seems pretty straightforward. However, there is a Genius interview on Youtube from June 29, 2020 where Laura tells a name origin story about how she accidentally ordered too many geckos. [2] I have seen fan speculation that the group is changing the story each time they are asked. However, I have not seen the apparent conflict in stories directly addressed in any notable source.
Aside from these videos, published sources that I could find have mainly focused on the gecko name origin story. An article in The Outline retold the gecko story, with some added skepticism regarding its sincerity, in August 2019. [3] Rolling Stone later referenced The Outline's article in their piece published in December 2019. [4] Vanity Fair also mentioned geckos in an article on 100 gecs in November 2019. [5] Los Angeles Times referenced geckos as well in a piece they published in December 2019. [6]
There are a couple ways we can move forward. A) Put one of the stories in the article, geckos or spray paint. B) Put both of the stories in the article and/or note the existence of conflicting stories. C) Put none of the stories in the article and do not mention/explain the origin of the name. The main problem with option A is that these videos of Laura telling stories of the band's origin seem to conflict, so it is unclear which would be the best to use. The geckos story has the more recently published video and is referenced in more notable sources, so I think it's a little better to put that one if only one is chosen. However, I think the fact that Laura has contradicted it in another video suggests it may not be reliable. That leads to considering option B, which would be to note that different origin stories for the name have been given in different interviews. The problem that I see with this is that it borders on primary research. No notable source has said that there is a conflict between these stories. It seems to be mostly people on reddit and in Youtube comments sections who have noticed this so far. The article published in The Outline speculated that Laura's story about geckos may not have been serious, but I have not found a good source citing multiple stories and saying they conflict. As a result, I am concerned that option B would constitute original research and making an original claim, which is not what Wikipedia is about. I also have some concern that it might border on making an accusation of a living person, though the evidence from the videos hardly makes saying that there are conflicting stories a stretch. Option C might be the best because there is not really any source we can reference that addresses the conflict between these stories and there obviously is a good deal of ambiguity at play here. It is tempting to say something about the origin of the band name since the band has provided some information about it, but I do not think we actually have any information that we can say meets Wikipedia's standards to put there right now.
What do other editors think? Has anyone found other sources that could be useful to address this issue? Which option is best to use for the article for now? I personally would lean toward option C given the information I have at present. Logogeo96 ( talk) 05:01, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
Les and Brady chose the name "100 gecs" after Laura accidentally adopted 100 geckos
References
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 17 January 2023 and 9 May 2023. Further details are available
on the course page. Student editor(s):
AceBunnyHop (
article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by AceBunnyHop ( talk) 15:58, 20 April 2023 (UTC)