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The
David Moyes article indicates he played for ÍBV in 1978 (when he would have been 15). Is this correct? There is
an associated reference but it seems to indicate he played for a different Icelandic club so I don't quite understand. Can anyone clarify this?--
A bit iffy (
talk)
11:09, 15 May 2013 (UTC)reply
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For clarity, this would be a reversal of the move
from January by
Alvaldi, the edit summary for the move was: Íþróttabandalag Vestmannaeyja and ÍBV-íþróttafélag are two different entities. ÍBV-íþróttafélag is the official name of the sports club the article is about. Íþróttabandalag Vestmannaeyja is the Sports District Association of Vestmannaeyjar. – Thjarkur(talk)08:16, 9 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Relsting comment: The rationale for the previous bold move was Íþróttabandalag Vestmannaeyja and ÍBV-íþróttafélag are two different entities. ÍBV-íþróttafélag is the official name of the sports club the article is about. Íþróttabandalag Vestmannaeyja is the Sports District Association of Vestmannaeyjar. The diff is given above, as is a link to an official club document. But nowhere do I see any reference at all to reliable secondary sources in English. Were I to close the discussion at this point, I would be tempted to
discard everything! So can we have some discussion in terms of
wp:AT please?
Andrewa (
talk)
23:42, 15 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Neither do I. All the current references in the article are in Icelandic so are no help. The only document in English on the website is a pdf (referred to above) which refers to the overall organisation as ÍBV Sports Club, and although that is a primary source, in the absence of secondary English sources it's good enough IMO.
Andrewa (
talk)
12:31, 18 March 2021 (UTC)reply
ÍBV-Íþróttafélag is just one of many ÍBV association, that only concludes Handball and Football and is never referred as ÍBV-Íþróttafélag only for the "tax agency". Just like Knattspyrnufélag Í.A.
Refrence, is one of Íþróttabandalag Akranes, and is just known as ÍA, has its own association for governmental purposes. Not all clubs in Iceland have the same Kennitala (ID) for different sports, there for they have to have different names, like ÍBV-Íþróttafélag or Knattspyrnufélag Í.A. for example. But noone referees to the clubs with these names.
Halli (
talk) 18:00, 23 March 2021 (UTC) — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Halli (
talk •
contribs)
17:58, 23 March 2021 (UTC)reply
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Requested move 6 April 2021
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The result of the move request was: No consensus after more than a month. However, there is a consensus that the current title is inappropriate on several counts, so it should be moved somewhere. Per
WP:NOGOODOPTIONS I'm picking
Íþróttabandalag Vestmannaeyja as the previous title and the one reluctantly agreed by several posters.
No such user (
talk)
09:12, 14 May 2021 (UTC)reply
I made the
WP:BOLD move of moving the article to
ÍBV-íþróttafélag after going through the laws of both entities (see
here and
here). I am having second thoughts after going through the rationales made by
Halli. I now support to move the article back to Íþróttabandalag Vestmannaeyja (similar to
Íþróttabandalag Akraness) or ÍBV and have one article about the ÍBV brand name. I am against using
ÍBV Sports Club as that only alludes to the entitie that runs the football and handball teams. -
Alvaldi (
talk)
16:08, 6 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Can we please use English? Per
WP:UE: If there is no established English-language treatment for a name, translate it if this can be done without loss of accuracy and with greater understanding for the English-speaking reader. I take it you speak Icelandic, so if IBV Sports Club isn't an accurate translation, please suggest one that is.
162.208.168.92 (
talk)
16:20, 6 April 2021 (UTC)reply
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The
David Moyes article indicates he played for ÍBV in 1978 (when he would have been 15). Is this correct? There is
an associated reference but it seems to indicate he played for a different Icelandic club so I don't quite understand. Can anyone clarify this?--
A bit iffy (
talk)
11:09, 15 May 2013 (UTC)reply
The following is a closed discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
For clarity, this would be a reversal of the move
from January by
Alvaldi, the edit summary for the move was: Íþróttabandalag Vestmannaeyja and ÍBV-íþróttafélag are two different entities. ÍBV-íþróttafélag is the official name of the sports club the article is about. Íþróttabandalag Vestmannaeyja is the Sports District Association of Vestmannaeyjar. – Thjarkur(talk)08:16, 9 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Relsting comment: The rationale for the previous bold move was Íþróttabandalag Vestmannaeyja and ÍBV-íþróttafélag are two different entities. ÍBV-íþróttafélag is the official name of the sports club the article is about. Íþróttabandalag Vestmannaeyja is the Sports District Association of Vestmannaeyjar. The diff is given above, as is a link to an official club document. But nowhere do I see any reference at all to reliable secondary sources in English. Were I to close the discussion at this point, I would be tempted to
discard everything! So can we have some discussion in terms of
wp:AT please?
Andrewa (
talk)
23:42, 15 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Neither do I. All the current references in the article are in Icelandic so are no help. The only document in English on the website is a pdf (referred to above) which refers to the overall organisation as ÍBV Sports Club, and although that is a primary source, in the absence of secondary English sources it's good enough IMO.
Andrewa (
talk)
12:31, 18 March 2021 (UTC)reply
ÍBV-Íþróttafélag is just one of many ÍBV association, that only concludes Handball and Football and is never referred as ÍBV-Íþróttafélag only for the "tax agency". Just like Knattspyrnufélag Í.A.
Refrence, is one of Íþróttabandalag Akranes, and is just known as ÍA, has its own association for governmental purposes. Not all clubs in Iceland have the same Kennitala (ID) for different sports, there for they have to have different names, like ÍBV-Íþróttafélag or Knattspyrnufélag Í.A. for example. But noone referees to the clubs with these names.
Halli (
talk) 18:00, 23 March 2021 (UTC) — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Halli (
talk •
contribs)
17:58, 23 March 2021 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Requested move 6 April 2021
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requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: No consensus after more than a month. However, there is a consensus that the current title is inappropriate on several counts, so it should be moved somewhere. Per
WP:NOGOODOPTIONS I'm picking
Íþróttabandalag Vestmannaeyja as the previous title and the one reluctantly agreed by several posters.
No such user (
talk)
09:12, 14 May 2021 (UTC)reply
I made the
WP:BOLD move of moving the article to
ÍBV-íþróttafélag after going through the laws of both entities (see
here and
here). I am having second thoughts after going through the rationales made by
Halli. I now support to move the article back to Íþróttabandalag Vestmannaeyja (similar to
Íþróttabandalag Akraness) or ÍBV and have one article about the ÍBV brand name. I am against using
ÍBV Sports Club as that only alludes to the entitie that runs the football and handball teams. -
Alvaldi (
talk)
16:08, 6 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Can we please use English? Per
WP:UE: If there is no established English-language treatment for a name, translate it if this can be done without loss of accuracy and with greater understanding for the English-speaking reader. I take it you speak Icelandic, so if IBV Sports Club isn't an accurate translation, please suggest one that is.
162.208.168.92 (
talk)
16:20, 6 April 2021 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.