16:0416:04, 11 February 2023diffhist−503
Meghan, Duchess of Sussex
Removed reference to YouGov poll because it is much less noteworthy source than those in the remainder of the paragraph. The YouGov poll also does not use probability sampling and so it is unreliable. Any reference to a poll that does not use probability sampling should state that to avoid spreading misinformation (please do so if other editors believe I removed the poll in error).Tag: Reverted
01:5601:56, 17 April 2021diffhist+89
Sound of Metal
Undid revision 1018151312 by
Erik (
talk)
WP:LEAD does not advise giving less credit to filmmakers if stars are more famous (see talk page). Further, multiple editors of this page have explicitly disputed your attempts to less prominently credit the filmmaker and no other editors have tacitly agreed with your attempts by making similar edits (see edit history of this page).Tags: UndoReverted
12:3912:39, 13 April 2021diffhist+68
Sound of Metal
Undid revision 1017552065 by
Erik (
talk) Failure to comprehend my initial point does not make it a violation of
WP:Undue. Since you don't comprehend my point about conventions for artist attribution, I will instead cite Per
WP: Lede: "[Lead] should identify the topic, establish context, explain why the topic is notable, and summarize the most important points.." Topic is film, context is who made the film, topic is notable for actors, etcTag: Undo
11:1711:17, 13 April 2021diffhist+68
Sound of Metal
Undid revision 1017543011 by
Erik (
talk) Your point was not proven. I believe you are erroneously looking at the title of the article and not the article itself. In the first sentence it attributes the film to its filmmaker. The film would not exist without the person who conceived of, wrote, and directed it. Therefore, that person's contribution is the most notable. That is why such immediate attribution persists as it will here.Tags: UndoReverted
10:0310:03, 13 April 2021diffhist+68
Sound of Metal
Undid revision 1017490544 by
Erik (
talk) Your preference is irrelevant. It is not a question of preference but of proper attribution. If you consult any professionally written review or description of the film (see https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/19/movies/sound-of-metal-review.html) it is first referenced as Darius Marder's Sound of Metal for that reason.Tags: UndoReverted
01:1001:10, 1 April 2021diffhist−41
Sound of Metal
Edited lead--moved filmmaker before actors, removed redundant links already provided in subsequent sections, took our heavy before metal because it is redundant and not in any official description of movie
16:0416:04, 11 February 2023diffhist−503
Meghan, Duchess of Sussex
Removed reference to YouGov poll because it is much less noteworthy source than those in the remainder of the paragraph. The YouGov poll also does not use probability sampling and so it is unreliable. Any reference to a poll that does not use probability sampling should state that to avoid spreading misinformation (please do so if other editors believe I removed the poll in error).Tag: Reverted
01:5601:56, 17 April 2021diffhist+89
Sound of Metal
Undid revision 1018151312 by
Erik (
talk)
WP:LEAD does not advise giving less credit to filmmakers if stars are more famous (see talk page). Further, multiple editors of this page have explicitly disputed your attempts to less prominently credit the filmmaker and no other editors have tacitly agreed with your attempts by making similar edits (see edit history of this page).Tags: UndoReverted
12:3912:39, 13 April 2021diffhist+68
Sound of Metal
Undid revision 1017552065 by
Erik (
talk) Failure to comprehend my initial point does not make it a violation of
WP:Undue. Since you don't comprehend my point about conventions for artist attribution, I will instead cite Per
WP: Lede: "[Lead] should identify the topic, establish context, explain why the topic is notable, and summarize the most important points.." Topic is film, context is who made the film, topic is notable for actors, etcTag: Undo
11:1711:17, 13 April 2021diffhist+68
Sound of Metal
Undid revision 1017543011 by
Erik (
talk) Your point was not proven. I believe you are erroneously looking at the title of the article and not the article itself. In the first sentence it attributes the film to its filmmaker. The film would not exist without the person who conceived of, wrote, and directed it. Therefore, that person's contribution is the most notable. That is why such immediate attribution persists as it will here.Tags: UndoReverted
10:0310:03, 13 April 2021diffhist+68
Sound of Metal
Undid revision 1017490544 by
Erik (
talk) Your preference is irrelevant. It is not a question of preference but of proper attribution. If you consult any professionally written review or description of the film (see https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/19/movies/sound-of-metal-review.html) it is first referenced as Darius Marder's Sound of Metal for that reason.Tags: UndoReverted
01:1001:10, 1 April 2021diffhist−41
Sound of Metal
Edited lead--moved filmmaker before actors, removed redundant links already provided in subsequent sections, took our heavy before metal because it is redundant and not in any official description of movie