16:4816:48, 24 July 2022diffhist+453
Li Xian (Northern Zhou general)
we discussed this a month ago; the problem isn't the source but its usage to support a point that it never made; in the spirit of being constructive, I will rephrase it instead of removing it
05:0705:07, 24 July 2022diffhist−956
Li Xian (Northern Zhou general)
didn't we agree not to include Weschler without rephrasing? this topic cannot be cherry picked like this; there's dozens if not hundreds of sources about the topic, including Weschler without the others is POVTag: Reverted
21:2521:25, 5 June 2022diffhist−1,488
Li Xian (Northern Zhou general)
it is very relevant, because of the word "therefore"; Weschler's source is from *1979*, before Li Xian's tomb was discovered; he could not have made this argument
20:3220:32, 5 June 2022diffhist−1,548
Li Jingxun
can you explain why Chen's argument is relevant to Li Jingxun? (the name never appears in the sources) see WP:REL and WP:VNOT
20:1920:19, 5 June 2022diffhist−1,607
Li Xian (Northern Zhou general)
see comments; Weschler never made a connection to Li Xian (topic of this article); the others can be combined because they are identical (2012 book is longer version of 1996 article)Tag: Reverted
05:2505:25, 4 June 2022diffhist−1,487
Tang dynasty
excessive emphasis on the works of 1-2 scholars, esp. Chen who is quoted three(!) times; it is sufficient to use his latest book (which covers all earlier material)
05:0005:00, 4 June 2022diffhist−1,195
Li Xian (Northern Zhou general)
Chen Sanping is the only cited scholar who suggests connection between Li Xian and the royal Li; Wechsler (who is quoting Chen Yinke) is not making the same argument
06:3806:38, 18 May 2022diffhist−528
Sui dynasty
removed the ethnic emphasis; Sui Wendi's Han ethnic descent in the official records are already sourced later in the article, but these lines feel like soap boxing
01:4001:40, 10 May 2022diffhist−656
Hanpu
→Hanpu's ethnicity: removed unsourced; removed odd citation of Zhao (his full view is already cited in Chinese section, yet here it's made to look he thinks Hanpu is ethnic Silan); removed over-interpretation of primary source
00:4200:42, 9 April 2022diffhist−108
Siberia
there is only one, "maximum" definition under which Balhae fits Siberia and by that definition, many other states would have to be includedTag: Reverted
19:0919:09, 22 April 2019diffhist−31
Dongyi
a more accurate description based on the sources; the emphasis, following the rest of the article, should be on the term's shifting semantics
16:4816:48, 24 July 2022diffhist+453
Li Xian (Northern Zhou general)
we discussed this a month ago; the problem isn't the source but its usage to support a point that it never made; in the spirit of being constructive, I will rephrase it instead of removing it
05:0705:07, 24 July 2022diffhist−956
Li Xian (Northern Zhou general)
didn't we agree not to include Weschler without rephrasing? this topic cannot be cherry picked like this; there's dozens if not hundreds of sources about the topic, including Weschler without the others is POVTag: Reverted
21:2521:25, 5 June 2022diffhist−1,488
Li Xian (Northern Zhou general)
it is very relevant, because of the word "therefore"; Weschler's source is from *1979*, before Li Xian's tomb was discovered; he could not have made this argument
20:3220:32, 5 June 2022diffhist−1,548
Li Jingxun
can you explain why Chen's argument is relevant to Li Jingxun? (the name never appears in the sources) see WP:REL and WP:VNOT
20:1920:19, 5 June 2022diffhist−1,607
Li Xian (Northern Zhou general)
see comments; Weschler never made a connection to Li Xian (topic of this article); the others can be combined because they are identical (2012 book is longer version of 1996 article)Tag: Reverted
05:2505:25, 4 June 2022diffhist−1,487
Tang dynasty
excessive emphasis on the works of 1-2 scholars, esp. Chen who is quoted three(!) times; it is sufficient to use his latest book (which covers all earlier material)
05:0005:00, 4 June 2022diffhist−1,195
Li Xian (Northern Zhou general)
Chen Sanping is the only cited scholar who suggests connection between Li Xian and the royal Li; Wechsler (who is quoting Chen Yinke) is not making the same argument
06:3806:38, 18 May 2022diffhist−528
Sui dynasty
removed the ethnic emphasis; Sui Wendi's Han ethnic descent in the official records are already sourced later in the article, but these lines feel like soap boxing
01:4001:40, 10 May 2022diffhist−656
Hanpu
→Hanpu's ethnicity: removed unsourced; removed odd citation of Zhao (his full view is already cited in Chinese section, yet here it's made to look he thinks Hanpu is ethnic Silan); removed over-interpretation of primary source
00:4200:42, 9 April 2022diffhist−108
Siberia
there is only one, "maximum" definition under which Balhae fits Siberia and by that definition, many other states would have to be includedTag: Reverted
19:0919:09, 22 April 2019diffhist−31
Dongyi
a more accurate description based on the sources; the emphasis, following the rest of the article, should be on the term's shifting semantics