05:2205:22, 2 December 2020diffhist−6
Kiro Stojanov
Per the Prespa Treaty, the nationality is Macedonian whilst the name of the country is North Macedonia. When we say nationality, we supply the demonym not the name of the country.Tag: Visual edit
15:5115:51, 27 November 2020diffhist−51
Konstantinos Bellios
Undid revision 990971451 by
Jingiby (
talk) I added Rossos in support that the Lozari were early adherents of Macedonian nationalism. It is not up to you to determine what is trustworthy, if you don't trust it your opinion. Unless you can provide me with sources as to why Rossos is wrong on this matter, this will stay.Tag: Undo
15:4715:47, 27 November 2020diffhist+67
Konstantinos Bellios
Undid revision 990970940 by
StoyanStoyanov80 (
talk) Can you please stop edit warring and discuss in talk? But no, I never claimed he is Macedonian. He was just considered important for early adherents to Macedonian nationalism, hence why the Macedonian language should stay there. You can add Bulgarian too if it helps you sleep better.Tag: Undo
15:4415:44, 27 November 2020diffhist−51
Konstantinos Bellios
Undid revision 990970213 by
Jingiby (
talk) The source provided to support this is the preamble of the Loza journal, it literally calls Bellios a Macedonian patriot and you can see they are inspired by him. Your tags are influenced by your pro Bulgarian views on the Macedonian Question.Tags: UndoReverted
15:3915:39, 27 November 2020diffhist+67
Konstantinos Bellios
Added Macedonian per my last comment. Stoyan I accidentally removed it while I was trying to retrieve my old edit but then I reverted it back to Jingiby's edit because I had realised I removed his ethnicity. We make mistakes, we are human.Tags: RevertedVisual edit
15:3515:35, 27 November 2020diffhist−421
Konstantinos Bellios
Undid revision 990969179 by
Jingiby (
talk) Added his name in Macedonian because of the impact he had on the Macedonian National Awakening, he was Vlach correct. But the adherents to Macedonian nationalism such as the Lozari, were impacted by him; he was an important figure for them. As such, that is why I added the Macedonian language, because he is a prominent figure for Macedonians.Tags: UndoReverted
15:1615:16, 27 November 2020diffhist+2,251
Konstantinos Bellios
Undid revision 990966375 by
Jingiby (
talk) you can't just remove my edits without any legitimate explanations, that is vandalism. Your edits are motivated by your personal beliefs. I made the original statement, you need to discuss it in talk if you have any objections.Tag: Undo
15:0115:01, 27 November 2020diffhist+72
Young Macedonian Literary Society
→Members: Okay since you want to get wrapped up over technicalities I changed the language. Delchev did not identify as Bulgarian, he clearly express a Macedonian identity. Anyway, what you stated does not prove the Lozari identified their movement as Bulgarian. Please provide sources, and don't engage in forum posting. Please discuss this on talk. Thanks.Tags: RevertedVisual edit
14:4914:49, 27 November 2020diffhist+160
Young Macedonian Literary Society
Undid revision 990963080 by
StoyanStoyanov80 (
talk) You can't just remove what I wrote, that is vandalism. If you have improvements go ahead and improve it. Despite when they were established, the establishment of the Bulgarian state and Church meant bulgarization of Macedonia. Don't make unexplained removals, thanks.Tag: Undo
14:4214:42, 27 November 2020diffhist+82
Young Macedonian Literary Society
Undid revision 990960882 by
StoyanStoyanov80 (
talk) The references used in the books do not explicitly state that the Lozari identified as what the authors state. What the authors state is their own interpretation, which is influenced by the Bulgarian stance on the Macedonian Question. According to Wikipedia standards, that is not neutral and is POV.Tag: Undo
14:2114:21, 27 November 2020diffhist+39
Young Macedonian Literary Society
Undid revision 990959628 by
StoyanStoyanov80 (
talk) MacDermott is not Bulgarian but her work is pro Bulgarian. You need to provide NPOV sources that say the Lozari identified as Macedonian Bulgarians, otherwise, it should be treated as Bulgarian historiography.
13:1013:10, 27 November 2020diffhist+2,251
Konstantinos Bellios
→Life: Added information on his impact on the ethnic Macedonian National Awakening. Removed Greek from the lead as it is unsure whether he was ethnically Greek, therefore it is misleading. Added his name in Macedonian because of the impact he had on the Macedonian National Awakening.Tags: RevertedVisual edit
05:2205:22, 2 December 2020diffhist−6
Kiro Stojanov
Per the Prespa Treaty, the nationality is Macedonian whilst the name of the country is North Macedonia. When we say nationality, we supply the demonym not the name of the country.Tag: Visual edit
15:5115:51, 27 November 2020diffhist−51
Konstantinos Bellios
Undid revision 990971451 by
Jingiby (
talk) I added Rossos in support that the Lozari were early adherents of Macedonian nationalism. It is not up to you to determine what is trustworthy, if you don't trust it your opinion. Unless you can provide me with sources as to why Rossos is wrong on this matter, this will stay.Tag: Undo
15:4715:47, 27 November 2020diffhist+67
Konstantinos Bellios
Undid revision 990970940 by
StoyanStoyanov80 (
talk) Can you please stop edit warring and discuss in talk? But no, I never claimed he is Macedonian. He was just considered important for early adherents to Macedonian nationalism, hence why the Macedonian language should stay there. You can add Bulgarian too if it helps you sleep better.Tag: Undo
15:4415:44, 27 November 2020diffhist−51
Konstantinos Bellios
Undid revision 990970213 by
Jingiby (
talk) The source provided to support this is the preamble of the Loza journal, it literally calls Bellios a Macedonian patriot and you can see they are inspired by him. Your tags are influenced by your pro Bulgarian views on the Macedonian Question.Tags: UndoReverted
15:3915:39, 27 November 2020diffhist+67
Konstantinos Bellios
Added Macedonian per my last comment. Stoyan I accidentally removed it while I was trying to retrieve my old edit but then I reverted it back to Jingiby's edit because I had realised I removed his ethnicity. We make mistakes, we are human.Tags: RevertedVisual edit
15:3515:35, 27 November 2020diffhist−421
Konstantinos Bellios
Undid revision 990969179 by
Jingiby (
talk) Added his name in Macedonian because of the impact he had on the Macedonian National Awakening, he was Vlach correct. But the adherents to Macedonian nationalism such as the Lozari, were impacted by him; he was an important figure for them. As such, that is why I added the Macedonian language, because he is a prominent figure for Macedonians.Tags: UndoReverted
15:1615:16, 27 November 2020diffhist+2,251
Konstantinos Bellios
Undid revision 990966375 by
Jingiby (
talk) you can't just remove my edits without any legitimate explanations, that is vandalism. Your edits are motivated by your personal beliefs. I made the original statement, you need to discuss it in talk if you have any objections.Tag: Undo
15:0115:01, 27 November 2020diffhist+72
Young Macedonian Literary Society
→Members: Okay since you want to get wrapped up over technicalities I changed the language. Delchev did not identify as Bulgarian, he clearly express a Macedonian identity. Anyway, what you stated does not prove the Lozari identified their movement as Bulgarian. Please provide sources, and don't engage in forum posting. Please discuss this on talk. Thanks.Tags: RevertedVisual edit
14:4914:49, 27 November 2020diffhist+160
Young Macedonian Literary Society
Undid revision 990963080 by
StoyanStoyanov80 (
talk) You can't just remove what I wrote, that is vandalism. If you have improvements go ahead and improve it. Despite when they were established, the establishment of the Bulgarian state and Church meant bulgarization of Macedonia. Don't make unexplained removals, thanks.Tag: Undo
14:4214:42, 27 November 2020diffhist+82
Young Macedonian Literary Society
Undid revision 990960882 by
StoyanStoyanov80 (
talk) The references used in the books do not explicitly state that the Lozari identified as what the authors state. What the authors state is their own interpretation, which is influenced by the Bulgarian stance on the Macedonian Question. According to Wikipedia standards, that is not neutral and is POV.Tag: Undo
14:2114:21, 27 November 2020diffhist+39
Young Macedonian Literary Society
Undid revision 990959628 by
StoyanStoyanov80 (
talk) MacDermott is not Bulgarian but her work is pro Bulgarian. You need to provide NPOV sources that say the Lozari identified as Macedonian Bulgarians, otherwise, it should be treated as Bulgarian historiography.
13:1013:10, 27 November 2020diffhist+2,251
Konstantinos Bellios
→Life: Added information on his impact on the ethnic Macedonian National Awakening. Removed Greek from the lead as it is unsure whether he was ethnically Greek, therefore it is misleading. Added his name in Macedonian because of the impact he had on the Macedonian National Awakening.Tags: RevertedVisual edit