00:4800:48, 11 June 2023diffhist−524
Homosexuality and religion
There's no value in highlighting a single 'Sikh-authority figure' there aren't priests or hierarchies in Sikhi; so in fact, no one figure has the right to decide what is or is not right and wrong. There is a Akal Takht which typically decides on political matters but even it's decisions are not binding without a Sarbat Khalsa - which would require all Sikhs to democratically decide. Moreover, there are several Sikh organizations & figures pro-lgbtq. The main thing is the book doesn't discrim
17:4517:45, 17 July 2022diffhist−61
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Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale
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Srijanx22 (
talk) At the moment, in the opening description we have approximately five sources claiming he didn't support Khalistan but supported a resolution - and one source claiming he was a militant for the Khalistani movement. I suggest we use the talk page to arrive at a solution, rather then having contradictory information within the opening description.Tag: Undo
04:1504:15, 17 July 2022diffhist−61
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Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale
Several of the sources on this page i.e. peer reviewed and scholarly work note Bhindranwale was not advocating for Khalistan; but advocated for the Anadpur Sahib Resolution. Therefore stating him as a "millitant of the Khalistan movement" is rather misleading; also as references note, the Khalistan movement gained support after Bluestar and after he was dead, prior it was nonexistent.Tag: Reverted
18:5618:56, 9 July 2022diffhist+112
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Shiromani Akali Dal (Amritsar)
Article doesn't discuss parties position on Sikhism, but rather Mann is defending a Muslim MLA who refused to say patriotic slogans because they were perceived to have religious connotations. He states that the central government to not impose patriotic slogans such as "Jai Hind", "Bharat Mata ki Jai" (Hail, Mother India), and mandatory reading of the Gita onto Sikhs. Article is more about minority rights; I would prefer a less inflammatory and editorialized source - i.e academic sources.
18:4818:48, 9 July 2022diffhist−254
Shiromani Akali Dal (Amritsar)
The article provided doesn't discuss the parties position on Sikhism; but rather he is defending asks the central government to not impose patriotic slogans such as "Jai Hind", "Bharat Mata ki Jai" (Hail, Mother India),Tag: Reverted
07:4107:41, 9 July 2022diffhist−523
Shiromani Akali Dal (Amritsar)
revision 1097183244 by
Chennai Super Kings Lover (
talk) The religious conservatism and Sikhism are not synonyms; there are both progressive and conservative political movements motivated by religion. For example, Leo Tolstoy was both a Christian and Libertarian Socialist - or Anarchist. Again, can you stop vandalizing the page? If you want to perform an edit please use talk page to discuss as is the normTag: Undo
08:3108:31, 8 July 2022diffhist+501
Shiromani Akali Dal (Amritsar)
Traditionalist values are some of SAD(A) values; however, this is adequately captured by Sikhism in the ideology as the traditionalist values they argue for are largely just the Sikh religious values; Also, the party is supportive of agrarian movements; so this was added in.
08:0108:01, 8 July 2022diffhist−508
Shiromani Akali Dal (Amritsar)
References asks for India not to impose the Gita or the use of mandatory patriotic slogans in Punjab - namely on non-Hindu minorities, as Hindus are presumably reading the Gita. However, the reference does not support traditionalism or traditionalist conservative values; more so it's asking that minority groups do not have Hindu practices forced upon them. It does not provide evidence for the claim.
07:4607:46, 8 July 2022diffhist+126
Shiromani Akali Dal (Amritsar)
The article you've cited doesn't claim the SAD(A) follows "extreme-right politics". The words 'extreme' and 'right-wing' are present in the article although never used together. The term extreme is used to pose the question will "extremist politics return" politics i.e. stated here as calls for succession from India; and right-wing is used to refer to "right-wing panthic leaders" when referring people who disagreed with Bhagwants Manns speech. Again, no policies or references to the SAD(A).
07:4107:41, 8 July 2022diffhist−13
Shiromani Akali Dal (Amritsar)
Undid revision 1097028838 by
Chennai Super Kings Lover (
talk) The article you've provided doesn't state traditional conservatism; It says Sikhs should not say "Hail, Mother India" and that India should not impose the Geeta forcibly onto Sikhs. The argument that the Akali Dal is traditionalist isn't an incorrect one; but the source you've provided doesn't support the claim you are making.Tags: UndoDisambiguation links added
02:0202:02, 8 July 2022diffhist−358
Shiromani Akali Dal (Amritsar)
Provide a source for far-right politics; the article provided is the same one that @chennaisuperkingslover kept providing - and as discussed previously, it is highly inadequate - the article does not have any references to ideology or political policies. Moreover, it's a contradiction to hold the party being pro-minority rights, against economic and social inequality, etc.. and far-right. Those are diametrically opposed ideas.
00:4800:48, 11 June 2023diffhist−524
Homosexuality and religion
There's no value in highlighting a single 'Sikh-authority figure' there aren't priests or hierarchies in Sikhi; so in fact, no one figure has the right to decide what is or is not right and wrong. There is a Akal Takht which typically decides on political matters but even it's decisions are not binding without a Sarbat Khalsa - which would require all Sikhs to democratically decide. Moreover, there are several Sikh organizations & figures pro-lgbtq. The main thing is the book doesn't discrim
17:4517:45, 17 July 2022diffhist−61
m
Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale
Undid revision 1098727411 by
Srijanx22 (
talk) At the moment, in the opening description we have approximately five sources claiming he didn't support Khalistan but supported a resolution - and one source claiming he was a militant for the Khalistani movement. I suggest we use the talk page to arrive at a solution, rather then having contradictory information within the opening description.Tag: Undo
04:1504:15, 17 July 2022diffhist−61
m
Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale
Several of the sources on this page i.e. peer reviewed and scholarly work note Bhindranwale was not advocating for Khalistan; but advocated for the Anadpur Sahib Resolution. Therefore stating him as a "millitant of the Khalistan movement" is rather misleading; also as references note, the Khalistan movement gained support after Bluestar and after he was dead, prior it was nonexistent.Tag: Reverted
18:5618:56, 9 July 2022diffhist+112
m
Shiromani Akali Dal (Amritsar)
Article doesn't discuss parties position on Sikhism, but rather Mann is defending a Muslim MLA who refused to say patriotic slogans because they were perceived to have religious connotations. He states that the central government to not impose patriotic slogans such as "Jai Hind", "Bharat Mata ki Jai" (Hail, Mother India), and mandatory reading of the Gita onto Sikhs. Article is more about minority rights; I would prefer a less inflammatory and editorialized source - i.e academic sources.
18:4818:48, 9 July 2022diffhist−254
Shiromani Akali Dal (Amritsar)
The article provided doesn't discuss the parties position on Sikhism; but rather he is defending asks the central government to not impose patriotic slogans such as "Jai Hind", "Bharat Mata ki Jai" (Hail, Mother India),Tag: Reverted
07:4107:41, 9 July 2022diffhist−523
Shiromani Akali Dal (Amritsar)
revision 1097183244 by
Chennai Super Kings Lover (
talk) The religious conservatism and Sikhism are not synonyms; there are both progressive and conservative political movements motivated by religion. For example, Leo Tolstoy was both a Christian and Libertarian Socialist - or Anarchist. Again, can you stop vandalizing the page? If you want to perform an edit please use talk page to discuss as is the normTag: Undo
08:3108:31, 8 July 2022diffhist+501
Shiromani Akali Dal (Amritsar)
Traditionalist values are some of SAD(A) values; however, this is adequately captured by Sikhism in the ideology as the traditionalist values they argue for are largely just the Sikh religious values; Also, the party is supportive of agrarian movements; so this was added in.
08:0108:01, 8 July 2022diffhist−508
Shiromani Akali Dal (Amritsar)
References asks for India not to impose the Gita or the use of mandatory patriotic slogans in Punjab - namely on non-Hindu minorities, as Hindus are presumably reading the Gita. However, the reference does not support traditionalism or traditionalist conservative values; more so it's asking that minority groups do not have Hindu practices forced upon them. It does not provide evidence for the claim.
07:4607:46, 8 July 2022diffhist+126
Shiromani Akali Dal (Amritsar)
The article you've cited doesn't claim the SAD(A) follows "extreme-right politics". The words 'extreme' and 'right-wing' are present in the article although never used together. The term extreme is used to pose the question will "extremist politics return" politics i.e. stated here as calls for succession from India; and right-wing is used to refer to "right-wing panthic leaders" when referring people who disagreed with Bhagwants Manns speech. Again, no policies or references to the SAD(A).
07:4107:41, 8 July 2022diffhist−13
Shiromani Akali Dal (Amritsar)
Undid revision 1097028838 by
Chennai Super Kings Lover (
talk) The article you've provided doesn't state traditional conservatism; It says Sikhs should not say "Hail, Mother India" and that India should not impose the Geeta forcibly onto Sikhs. The argument that the Akali Dal is traditionalist isn't an incorrect one; but the source you've provided doesn't support the claim you are making.Tags: UndoDisambiguation links added
02:0202:02, 8 July 2022diffhist−358
Shiromani Akali Dal (Amritsar)
Provide a source for far-right politics; the article provided is the same one that @chennaisuperkingslover kept providing - and as discussed previously, it is highly inadequate - the article does not have any references to ideology or political policies. Moreover, it's a contradiction to hold the party being pro-minority rights, against economic and social inequality, etc.. and far-right. Those are diametrically opposed ideas.