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There seems to duplication between the sentences and the bold links below. Since this context is static, I think it makes sense to minimize the area of this section. I'd like to move the bold links into the first sentence, so it'd read: 'including painting, sculpture, photography, conceptual art, drawing, graphic design, printmaking and others' Does anyone see any issues with this? Clubmarx | Talk 18:49, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
I was thinking of updating the featured picture on the Visual arts portal. I see you were the last to update it. Is there a process for nominating pics? I'd like to use the Aalto Vase image. It doesn't look like there's a formal process, just thought I'd check first. Clubmarx 19:44, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Please, do something about this page. The visual is very problematic... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.94.196.185 ( talk) 13:48, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, the blue box was too much. Definitely, not standard and the content is supposed to be the prominent thing on the page, not the template. I tried to like it. Clubmarx 23:42, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Hello. I was wonderining if you could help me by providing me with some more information about uploading pictures of art works onto Wikipedia. Thanks, Dfrg.m s c 1. 2. 3 02:37, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
The red headlines look like links to nonexistent articles. Could benefit from a change. – Zinjixmaggir 00:51, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
I came across the above article since SuggestBot recommended it to me as a stub I might be interested in expanding. It is a bit out of my league, but could be interesting just the same. The information in the article seems to basically be the text at http://royal-miniature-society.org.uk/index.htm . Suggestions? I'm relatively new to WP so I don't know all the appropriate ropes yet ... Thanks! Keesiewonder 00:53, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
In making some content and arrangement changes to this portal, I've decided I'm not enamored of the palette image at the top. Any ideas for a more compelling image?
Also, I don't really care for the current color scheme, but am not sure I have any ideas for improvement. Any one else feel the same way about the color scheme? If you're feeling bold, go to Portal:Visual_arts/box-header and try something different. I'll be playing in my sandbox. Cheers, Planetneutral 03:48, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, it works for me now. I did some digging for a good 'eye' image to use. I put together a few options of what both the template and portal section might look like. Check it out here. I was initially thinking of the third option, but now I'm drawn to the fourth. The whole hand-eye thing really resonates for me, even if it's perhaps not the cleanest image resolution-wise. Anyway, your comments are very much welcome and feel free to use that sandbox page to try out any other images you come across. Planetneutral 04:38, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Do you think we really need this section? It never gets updated and I wouldn't even know where to start. I'd rather incorporate a news section and/or a topics box. Planetneutral 05:50, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Transclusion got unruly, so go see it at Wikipedia:Portal peer review/Visual arts/archive1. Planetneutral 03:27, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
The introduction seems awkward, and the last(I wrote "second" before) two sentences might need attribution/citation due to their POV flavor. So, here's a suggestion. --sparkit TALK 05:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Visual arts are the art forms that focus on the creation of works which are primarily visual in nature, such as painting, sculpture, photography, printmaking, and filmmaking. Those that involve three-dimensional objects, such as sculpture and architecture, are a sub-set called plastic arts. Many artistic disciplines ( performing arts, language arts, and culinary arts) involve aspects of the visual arts as well as other types, so these definitions are not strict.
The current usage of the term "visual arts" includes fine arts as well as crafts, but this was not always the case. Before the Arts and Crafts movement in the Britain and elsewhere at the turn of the 20th century, "visual artist" referred to a person working in the fine arts (such as painting, sculpture, or printmaking) and not the handicraft, craft, or applied art disciplines.
The scope of study and appreciation of visual arts spans the globe, and reaches through time back to people drawing on stone walls. All societies have embellished their tools and toys with at least a bit more visual interest than is functionally necessary.
Aren't these portals also supposed to be anchored in what has been written about the theme before? I see a lot of common sense ideas about art, mixture of Fine Arts with Applied Arts and anything else that has a picture in it... It talks about so much and nothing at the same time. Frustrating. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.94.196.185 ( talk) 13:54, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
A comment in the Portal:Philosophy/Did you know says...
The image in the VA DYK uses the |right wiki markup. I wonder if this might be the source of the IE problem when DYK is in the right column? --sparkit TALK 13:36, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
I started a test of the default values of the Random box-header subpage template here with the optional "watch" parameter included. The default settings use all of the subpages at Portal:Box-header. Right now, that means 42 different color palettes. Some probably look nice here, some not so nice. If desired, it's possible to use just a range of subpages, e.g., 40-42 are shades of gray. It's also possible to place a customized set of subpages under Portal:Visual arts/box-header.
I put the test here because I thought at least some folks interested in the visual arts would be interested in playing with this template's possibilities. If you really can't take it, I'll understand if you revert the test. However, I hope you give it a test drive or two before you get rid of it completely.
Also, I would be interesting in knowing what you think of this color palette randomization approach. Would you change anything about the template? Would you like to see it at any other portals? Thanks for your consideration. RichardF ( talk) 04:02, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi. Could you, please help me with the page Museum of calligraphy? Its neutrality is being doubted and I try to correct it. What do I have to do to make it ok? Or maybe it is ok now? I am an artist and I work in that museum. Maybe the page's language is pure, so I would appreciate it very much if some one help me with this. Olaff-Vik ( talk) 10:50, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
I am not involved in the art-subject-area of Wikipedia nor do I feel I know enough about it to work on it; however, there are some serious issues at The Death of Marat (the great old French piece by Jacques-Louis David). I keep tagging it so someone involved with art-aspects of Wikipedia could take a look at it. There is a large section "Style: An Iconographic Paradox" which is written like an art-interpretation essay, and needs some serious cleanup, referencing, wikification, and "encyclopedification." The tags keep getting removed by IPs without summary... looking into the article's history, I see that the essay was added by an IP way back when; I assume someone just added an essay they wrote and perhaps they don't want anyone else to change it or "wikify" it. Could an editor more involved in this area perhaps take a look at it and see if anything can be done?
I have designed this icon trying to make the
Hamsa hand used for this portal less scary, art is supposed to be fun:) So if anyone wants to use it, youre welcome. -
MichaelPhilip (
talk)
13:03, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Why are the visual arts considered Jewish at all?
73.220.34.167 (
talk)
02:37, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi guys! We just opened the Design portal for business and would appreciate if you could put a link to it in the 'Related portals' section of your portal. Thanks in advance! --
AlainR345
Techno-Wiki-Geek
08:22, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
To get this link right, you can paste something like:
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Design |
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{| cellspacing="0px;" style="width:100%;border:solid 0px #FFFFFF;background-color:transparent;align:center;padding:0px;padding-top:1em;"
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<div align="center">
<imagemap>Image:Design_portal_logo.jpg|35px
default [[Portal:Design|Design]]
desc none</imagemap>
</div>
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! style="text-align:center;width:25%"|'''[[Portal:Design|Design]]'''
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If filmmaking belongs in this portal, what about making television shows? I searched the filmmaking article and this portal for "tv" and then "television" and neither page contained either word.
Thanks for all your hard work and sorry I can only raise the question and not help develop the answer due to bandwidth limits of my own. :) -- Geekdiva ( talk) 07:11, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
Why is Hitler all over this portal? This seems like a huge problem, especially for a featured portal. I'm assuming it's vandalism..? Sindinero ( talk) 16:02, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Hassane Amraoui is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hassane Amraoui until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. EuroCarGT 04:05, 13 August 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Calise ( talk • contribs)
Please help us by reviewing the article! Any advice would be well-received. Origamite ⓣ ⓒ 02:58, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
OK. I posted a question on here as to why the Wikipedia Visual Arts Portal uses a Jewish symbol. I find that very odd. Well, that question was deleted completely shortly after. What is going on? Sounds like racism to me. 73.220.34.167 ( talk) 02:35, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
Hello! Your input is needed on Commons. Can anyone please clarify who the painter of the two paintings was? El Labrador or Miguel de Pret? Thanks in advance!
It seems to me that the Prado originally acquired the second painting as a work by Juan Fernandez Labrador, but now attributes it to Miguel de Pret, based on a comparison with the painting in the collection of the Cerralbo museum. Mduvekot ( talk) 04:08, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi. If I work on an article in the Cleanup listing for WikiProject Visual arts, do I need to notify someone of the completed work? (So it can be reviewed and the cleanup tag possibly removed). For example, I just provided a new introduction for the Alexander Calder page, which was tagged for introduction cleanup. Thanks! Mianvar1 14:11, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
Mduvekot — thanks for the tip. Mianvar1 12:38, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
WikiProject Portals is back!
The project was rebooted and completely overhauled on April 17th, 2018. Its goals are to revitalize the entire portal system, make building and maintaining portals easier, support the ongoing improvement of portals and the editors dedicated to this, and design the portals of the future.
As of May 2nd, 2018, membership is at 60 editors, and growing. You are welcome to join us.
There are design initiatives for revitalizing the portals system as a whole, and for improving each component of portals. So far, 2 new dynamic components have been developed: Template:Transclude lead excerpt and Template:Transclude random excerpt.
Tools are provided for building and maintaining portals, including automated portals that update themselves in various ways.
And, if you are bored and would like something to occupy your mind, we have a wonderful task list.
From your friendly neighborhood Portals WikiProject. Hope to see you there. Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 07:50, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
Portal:Visual arts/Selected quote/8, a relevant to this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion. Opinions on the matter are welcome; interested editors may participate in the discussion by adding comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Visual arts/Selected quote/8 and please be sure to sign comments with four tildes (~~~~). Feel free to edit the content of Portal:Visual arts/Selected quote/8 during the discussion but do not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. — Godsy ( TALK CONT) 05:35, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
To keep this information in a centralized area, the following is content selection criteria from various portal subpages. North America 1000 08:23, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
The following updates have been performed to the portal. North America 1000 07:53, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
I created a new article on the artist and painter, Paul Seckel. Any further research would be appreciated! Right cite ( talk) 14:16, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
Good morning everyone,
I translated the draft: Filippo Biagioli from other Wikipedias. Can anyone help me correct any errors?
Thank you very much Autunno2022 ( talk) 08:14, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
portal about
Visual arts.
Content dispute discussions should take place on the appropriate article's talk page. For discussions about general portal development, please see the
WikiProject Portals talk page. If you are a regular maintainer of this portal, please add yourself to this list. |
The Visual arts Portal is a featured portal, which means it has been identified as one of the best portals on Wikipedia. If you see a way this portal can be updated or improved without compromising previous work, please feel free to contribute. | |||||||||||||
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Current status: Featured portal |
Portals (Rated FPo-class, High-importance) | ||||||||||||||||
|
Visual arts Portal‑class | |||||||
|
Daily pageviews of Portal:Visual arts
A graph should have been displayed here but
graphs are temporarily disabled. Until they are enabled again, visit the interactive graph at
pageviews.wmcloud.org |
To-do list for Portal:Visual arts:
|
Automated portal content suggestions ( ) The following suggestions have been automatically generated as content that might be suitable for the portal, subject to review by a human editor. Please do not mindlessly copy items to the portal page without first checking that the suggestions are appropriate.
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There seems to duplication between the sentences and the bold links below. Since this context is static, I think it makes sense to minimize the area of this section. I'd like to move the bold links into the first sentence, so it'd read: 'including painting, sculpture, photography, conceptual art, drawing, graphic design, printmaking and others' Does anyone see any issues with this? Clubmarx | Talk 18:49, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
I was thinking of updating the featured picture on the Visual arts portal. I see you were the last to update it. Is there a process for nominating pics? I'd like to use the Aalto Vase image. It doesn't look like there's a formal process, just thought I'd check first. Clubmarx 19:44, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Please, do something about this page. The visual is very problematic... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.94.196.185 ( talk) 13:48, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, the blue box was too much. Definitely, not standard and the content is supposed to be the prominent thing on the page, not the template. I tried to like it. Clubmarx 23:42, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Hello. I was wonderining if you could help me by providing me with some more information about uploading pictures of art works onto Wikipedia. Thanks, Dfrg.m s c 1. 2. 3 02:37, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
The red headlines look like links to nonexistent articles. Could benefit from a change. – Zinjixmaggir 00:51, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
I came across the above article since SuggestBot recommended it to me as a stub I might be interested in expanding. It is a bit out of my league, but could be interesting just the same. The information in the article seems to basically be the text at http://royal-miniature-society.org.uk/index.htm . Suggestions? I'm relatively new to WP so I don't know all the appropriate ropes yet ... Thanks! Keesiewonder 00:53, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
In making some content and arrangement changes to this portal, I've decided I'm not enamored of the palette image at the top. Any ideas for a more compelling image?
Also, I don't really care for the current color scheme, but am not sure I have any ideas for improvement. Any one else feel the same way about the color scheme? If you're feeling bold, go to Portal:Visual_arts/box-header and try something different. I'll be playing in my sandbox. Cheers, Planetneutral 03:48, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, it works for me now. I did some digging for a good 'eye' image to use. I put together a few options of what both the template and portal section might look like. Check it out here. I was initially thinking of the third option, but now I'm drawn to the fourth. The whole hand-eye thing really resonates for me, even if it's perhaps not the cleanest image resolution-wise. Anyway, your comments are very much welcome and feel free to use that sandbox page to try out any other images you come across. Planetneutral 04:38, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Do you think we really need this section? It never gets updated and I wouldn't even know where to start. I'd rather incorporate a news section and/or a topics box. Planetneutral 05:50, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Transclusion got unruly, so go see it at Wikipedia:Portal peer review/Visual arts/archive1. Planetneutral 03:27, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
The introduction seems awkward, and the last(I wrote "second" before) two sentences might need attribution/citation due to their POV flavor. So, here's a suggestion. --sparkit TALK 05:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Visual arts are the art forms that focus on the creation of works which are primarily visual in nature, such as painting, sculpture, photography, printmaking, and filmmaking. Those that involve three-dimensional objects, such as sculpture and architecture, are a sub-set called plastic arts. Many artistic disciplines ( performing arts, language arts, and culinary arts) involve aspects of the visual arts as well as other types, so these definitions are not strict.
The current usage of the term "visual arts" includes fine arts as well as crafts, but this was not always the case. Before the Arts and Crafts movement in the Britain and elsewhere at the turn of the 20th century, "visual artist" referred to a person working in the fine arts (such as painting, sculpture, or printmaking) and not the handicraft, craft, or applied art disciplines.
The scope of study and appreciation of visual arts spans the globe, and reaches through time back to people drawing on stone walls. All societies have embellished their tools and toys with at least a bit more visual interest than is functionally necessary.
Aren't these portals also supposed to be anchored in what has been written about the theme before? I see a lot of common sense ideas about art, mixture of Fine Arts with Applied Arts and anything else that has a picture in it... It talks about so much and nothing at the same time. Frustrating. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.94.196.185 ( talk) 13:54, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
A comment in the Portal:Philosophy/Did you know says...
The image in the VA DYK uses the |right wiki markup. I wonder if this might be the source of the IE problem when DYK is in the right column? --sparkit TALK 13:36, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
I started a test of the default values of the Random box-header subpage template here with the optional "watch" parameter included. The default settings use all of the subpages at Portal:Box-header. Right now, that means 42 different color palettes. Some probably look nice here, some not so nice. If desired, it's possible to use just a range of subpages, e.g., 40-42 are shades of gray. It's also possible to place a customized set of subpages under Portal:Visual arts/box-header.
I put the test here because I thought at least some folks interested in the visual arts would be interested in playing with this template's possibilities. If you really can't take it, I'll understand if you revert the test. However, I hope you give it a test drive or two before you get rid of it completely.
Also, I would be interesting in knowing what you think of this color palette randomization approach. Would you change anything about the template? Would you like to see it at any other portals? Thanks for your consideration. RichardF ( talk) 04:02, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi. Could you, please help me with the page Museum of calligraphy? Its neutrality is being doubted and I try to correct it. What do I have to do to make it ok? Or maybe it is ok now? I am an artist and I work in that museum. Maybe the page's language is pure, so I would appreciate it very much if some one help me with this. Olaff-Vik ( talk) 10:50, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
I am not involved in the art-subject-area of Wikipedia nor do I feel I know enough about it to work on it; however, there are some serious issues at The Death of Marat (the great old French piece by Jacques-Louis David). I keep tagging it so someone involved with art-aspects of Wikipedia could take a look at it. There is a large section "Style: An Iconographic Paradox" which is written like an art-interpretation essay, and needs some serious cleanup, referencing, wikification, and "encyclopedification." The tags keep getting removed by IPs without summary... looking into the article's history, I see that the essay was added by an IP way back when; I assume someone just added an essay they wrote and perhaps they don't want anyone else to change it or "wikify" it. Could an editor more involved in this area perhaps take a look at it and see if anything can be done?
I have designed this icon trying to make the
Hamsa hand used for this portal less scary, art is supposed to be fun:) So if anyone wants to use it, youre welcome. -
MichaelPhilip (
talk)
13:03, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Why are the visual arts considered Jewish at all?
73.220.34.167 (
talk)
02:37, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi guys! We just opened the Design portal for business and would appreciate if you could put a link to it in the 'Related portals' section of your portal. Thanks in advance! --
AlainR345
Techno-Wiki-Geek
08:22, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
To get this link right, you can paste something like:
|
Design |
---|
{| cellspacing="0px;" style="width:100%;border:solid 0px #FFFFFF;background-color:transparent;align:center;padding:0px;padding-top:1em;"
| style="width:25%;align:center;" |
<div align="center">
<imagemap>Image:Design_portal_logo.jpg|35px
default [[Portal:Design|Design]]
desc none</imagemap>
</div>
|-
! style="text-align:center;width:25%"|'''[[Portal:Design|Design]]'''
|}
If filmmaking belongs in this portal, what about making television shows? I searched the filmmaking article and this portal for "tv" and then "television" and neither page contained either word.
Thanks for all your hard work and sorry I can only raise the question and not help develop the answer due to bandwidth limits of my own. :) -- Geekdiva ( talk) 07:11, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
Why is Hitler all over this portal? This seems like a huge problem, especially for a featured portal. I'm assuming it's vandalism..? Sindinero ( talk) 16:02, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Hassane Amraoui is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hassane Amraoui until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. EuroCarGT 04:05, 13 August 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Calise ( talk • contribs)
Please help us by reviewing the article! Any advice would be well-received. Origamite ⓣ ⓒ 02:58, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
OK. I posted a question on here as to why the Wikipedia Visual Arts Portal uses a Jewish symbol. I find that very odd. Well, that question was deleted completely shortly after. What is going on? Sounds like racism to me. 73.220.34.167 ( talk) 02:35, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
Hello! Your input is needed on Commons. Can anyone please clarify who the painter of the two paintings was? El Labrador or Miguel de Pret? Thanks in advance!
It seems to me that the Prado originally acquired the second painting as a work by Juan Fernandez Labrador, but now attributes it to Miguel de Pret, based on a comparison with the painting in the collection of the Cerralbo museum. Mduvekot ( talk) 04:08, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi. If I work on an article in the Cleanup listing for WikiProject Visual arts, do I need to notify someone of the completed work? (So it can be reviewed and the cleanup tag possibly removed). For example, I just provided a new introduction for the Alexander Calder page, which was tagged for introduction cleanup. Thanks! Mianvar1 14:11, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
Mduvekot — thanks for the tip. Mianvar1 12:38, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
WikiProject Portals is back!
The project was rebooted and completely overhauled on April 17th, 2018. Its goals are to revitalize the entire portal system, make building and maintaining portals easier, support the ongoing improvement of portals and the editors dedicated to this, and design the portals of the future.
As of May 2nd, 2018, membership is at 60 editors, and growing. You are welcome to join us.
There are design initiatives for revitalizing the portals system as a whole, and for improving each component of portals. So far, 2 new dynamic components have been developed: Template:Transclude lead excerpt and Template:Transclude random excerpt.
Tools are provided for building and maintaining portals, including automated portals that update themselves in various ways.
And, if you are bored and would like something to occupy your mind, we have a wonderful task list.
From your friendly neighborhood Portals WikiProject. Hope to see you there. Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 07:50, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
Portal:Visual arts/Selected quote/8, a relevant to this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion. Opinions on the matter are welcome; interested editors may participate in the discussion by adding comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Visual arts/Selected quote/8 and please be sure to sign comments with four tildes (~~~~). Feel free to edit the content of Portal:Visual arts/Selected quote/8 during the discussion but do not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. — Godsy ( TALK CONT) 05:35, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
To keep this information in a centralized area, the following is content selection criteria from various portal subpages. North America 1000 08:23, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
The following updates have been performed to the portal. North America 1000 07:53, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
I created a new article on the artist and painter, Paul Seckel. Any further research would be appreciated! Right cite ( talk) 14:16, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
Good morning everyone,
I translated the draft: Filippo Biagioli from other Wikipedias. Can anyone help me correct any errors?
Thank you very much Autunno2022 ( talk) 08:14, 27 May 2024 (UTC)