This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
portal about
Solar System.
Content dispute discussions should take place on the appropriate article's talk page. For discussions about general portal development, please see the
WikiProject Portals talk page. If you are a regular maintainer of this portal, please add yourself to this list. |
This page was nominated for deletion on 19 August 2019. The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
The Solar System Portal is a featured portal, which means it has been identified as one of the best portals on Wikipedia. If you see a way this portal can be updated or improved without compromising previous work, please feel free to contribute. | ||||||||||||||||
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Current status: Featured portal |
This portal does not require a rating on Wikipedia's
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To-do list for Portal:Solar System:
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Automated portal content suggestions ( ) The following suggestions have been automatically generated as content that might be suitable for the portal, subject to review by a human editor. Please do not mindlessly copy items to the portal page without first checking that the suggestions are appropriate.
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I haven't worked on portals before, but when I saw a great featured article, Solar System, having a poor (under construction) portal, I decided to help give this portal a facelift. Now that it is usable (although there is still work to do), I think that the discussion should change to how this portal can continue to be usable and interesting. Therefore, I have posted my thoughts on how this portal should be maintained.
The selected article should change on the first of each month and go down the list headings in the Topics box (excluding the main Solar System article). This has already been partly done via the switch from
Sun to
Mercury, so I think that the others working on this portal agree with this point. There should be discussion on whether it cycles or new articles are chosen similar to images after the list is done (see next paragraph).
The selected image should similarly switch weekly as there are a lot of images out there. The image should be chosen on this talk page from Wikipedia's featured pictures on objects in the Solar System and there should be a few featured images waiting to be added at the right time so that lack of consensus doesn't ever make the image change late. There should be an archive of the old articles and pictures (I'll get to work on archives immediately after posting this).
People should go through new articles relating to the Solar System and take interesting facts and add them to the Did You Know section. It must be diverse to get people to go to articles of varying content. When it gets too large, someone should create an archive of the oldest facts and remove them. In fact, anything that has regular changing content should have an archive created so that people can look at old things, similarly to how Portal:Astronomy or even the main page has archives (archives would of course be subpages of this portal).
Boxes of primarily link content should go on the right (or the very bottom of the left if there's too many on the right). Meanwhile, boxes of primarily text content should go on the left (one or two could probably be added without compromising design). This kind of organization would make the portal better as even some well-done portals seem quite random in the way they sort their boxes.
We should tell projects where this portal could fit in about this portal and those that agree to help maintain this portal should be added in the "WikiProjects" box. This way, the portal gets added help and is made better while the people viewing this portal see the projects that help with this portal and might decide to join them. Hopefully several projects will help on this portal.
I personally think that this portal has a lot of potential and it would be a good compliment to a good featured topic. I will thus try to help regularly maintain this portal. I hope that everyone interested can agree on how to maintain this portal so it can one day be a featured portal to compliment the many related featured articles. — Pious7 Talk Contribs 19:07, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
All constructive comments are welcome. I have worked on this portal that was previously heavily under construction because it is on a featured topic and a featured topic deserves a featured portal. — Pious7 Talk Contribs 01:17, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Hey, pretty good looking so far, just a few small things:
Joe I 03:42, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
I have finished addressing all of the comments at its peer review. I think Portal:Solar System should be featured because I put hard work in it to ensure that it is well-designed, good-looking, and unique. It meets all of the featured portal critera as I went through the list.
This portal showcases the best articles on the subject. All the planets and dwarf planets combine with the Sun forming a featured topic. This is showcased in the "Article of the Month" section. Once Earth finishes its FAC, the rest of the queue will be complete. Currently it only goes up to Venus because Earth's introduction might be rewritten and there is still plenty of time before the portal page gets to Earth. Most featured pictures on the subject are included in the "Picture of the Week" section. All featured articles on the subject are included in "Major Topics" and bolded to draw attention to them. Contribution is encouraged by an organized box titled "What You Can Do," which (even with the title) encourages participation more than on the average portal.
The Solar System portal is is useful, attractive, ergonomic, and well-maintained. This portal covers a broad topic (the Solar System) and provides many links to enable people to go exactly where they want. It encourages people to participate in the many space-related WikiProjects, not just the Solar System one. A plethora of images are used, especially with links in the right column, to make an ordinarily dull page look more interesting. It is organized layout means that boxes with links are on the right and bottom while the changing content people would read and check regularly is on the left. This logical organizational scheme increases its usability by allowing people to read down only one column if they're looking for something specific.
This portal is well-maintained in that it will not run out of images anytime soon (and when it does, there are more out there and it can cycle back to old images as wel) and "Article of the Month" will never run out because there are so many articles on the topic. It would take over 7 years to just go through those in the "Major Topics" box. I am willing to check up on this portal periodically to ensure that it doesn't run out of content to feature and stays up-to-date.
In addition to all of the above, the Solar System portal's content is designed to point the viewer into other locations. It does this using almost every method available to a portal. In summary, this portal is designed to be a central point for people to go to if they're interested in learning about the Solar System. — Pious7 Talk Contribs 02:06, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
MichaelManaloLazo-Thur Oct 1, 2009 at 14:15 inside Isetann Cinerama Complex Shopping Centre in Quiapo,Manila,Metro Manila,Philippines. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.92.245.5 ( talk) 06:10, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Someone could update this portal? It's so ugly and out of date! The Portuguese model looks much better than this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.83.135.27 ( talk) 00:15, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
WikiProject Portals is back!
The project was rebooted and completely overhauled on April 17th, 2018. Its goals are to revitalize the entire portal system, make building and maintaining portals easier, support the ongoing improvement of portals and the editors dedicated to this, and design the portals of the future.
As of May 2nd, 2018, membership is at 60 editors, and growing. You are welcome to join us.
There are design initiatives for revitalizing the portals system as a whole, and for improving each component of portals. So far, 2 new dynamic components have been developed: Template:Transclude lead excerpt and Template:Transclude random excerpt.
Tools are provided for building and maintaining portals, including automated portals that update themselves in various ways.
And, if you are bored and would like something to occupy your mind, we have a wonderful task list.
From your friendly neighborhood Portals WikiProject. Hope to see you there. Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 07:45, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
This portal was recently nominated for deletion, and the MFD was closed on 28 August 2019 as No Consensus. The following points were noted either by the Keep editors or by the closer:
Addressing those points within the next two months is a minimum for addressing the concerns raised in the MFD. If these points are not addressed in two months, this portal is likely to be nominated for deletion again.
If there is really a desire to demonstrate that portals in general can be improved, here are a few suggestions for design improvement:
Robert McClenon ( talk) 18:55, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
threatof another MFD. Take it as an assessment of probability as near-certainty, rather than threat: multiple maintainers, actively maintaining ... or MFD again. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 00:04, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
Portal:Moon, Portal:Mars, and Portal:Jupiter have all been deleted at MFD.
I have converted all the links to each of them into links to Portal:Solar System. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 02:27, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
Hecato, would you like me to update the "Selected picture" box using new template {{ Portal pictures}}? It allows using POTDs as inputs. Demo with just four pictures, any number of pictures can be used: {{Portal:Solar System/box-header|Selected picture}} {{Portal pictures|function=slideShow|2007-04-28|2019-07-18|2018-07-14|2007-06-11|more=[[Portal:Solar System/Selected picture|More selected pictures]]}} {{Box-footer}} — andrybak ( talk) 23:23, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
portal about
Solar System.
Content dispute discussions should take place on the appropriate article's talk page. For discussions about general portal development, please see the
WikiProject Portals talk page. If you are a regular maintainer of this portal, please add yourself to this list. |
This page was nominated for deletion on 19 August 2019. The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
The Solar System Portal is a featured portal, which means it has been identified as one of the best portals on Wikipedia. If you see a way this portal can be updated or improved without compromising previous work, please feel free to contribute. | ||||||||||||||||
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Current status: Featured portal |
This portal does not require a rating on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
To-do list for Portal:Solar System:
|
Automated portal content suggestions ( ) The following suggestions have been automatically generated as content that might be suitable for the portal, subject to review by a human editor. Please do not mindlessly copy items to the portal page without first checking that the suggestions are appropriate.
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I haven't worked on portals before, but when I saw a great featured article, Solar System, having a poor (under construction) portal, I decided to help give this portal a facelift. Now that it is usable (although there is still work to do), I think that the discussion should change to how this portal can continue to be usable and interesting. Therefore, I have posted my thoughts on how this portal should be maintained.
The selected article should change on the first of each month and go down the list headings in the Topics box (excluding the main Solar System article). This has already been partly done via the switch from
Sun to
Mercury, so I think that the others working on this portal agree with this point. There should be discussion on whether it cycles or new articles are chosen similar to images after the list is done (see next paragraph).
The selected image should similarly switch weekly as there are a lot of images out there. The image should be chosen on this talk page from Wikipedia's featured pictures on objects in the Solar System and there should be a few featured images waiting to be added at the right time so that lack of consensus doesn't ever make the image change late. There should be an archive of the old articles and pictures (I'll get to work on archives immediately after posting this).
People should go through new articles relating to the Solar System and take interesting facts and add them to the Did You Know section. It must be diverse to get people to go to articles of varying content. When it gets too large, someone should create an archive of the oldest facts and remove them. In fact, anything that has regular changing content should have an archive created so that people can look at old things, similarly to how Portal:Astronomy or even the main page has archives (archives would of course be subpages of this portal).
Boxes of primarily link content should go on the right (or the very bottom of the left if there's too many on the right). Meanwhile, boxes of primarily text content should go on the left (one or two could probably be added without compromising design). This kind of organization would make the portal better as even some well-done portals seem quite random in the way they sort their boxes.
We should tell projects where this portal could fit in about this portal and those that agree to help maintain this portal should be added in the "WikiProjects" box. This way, the portal gets added help and is made better while the people viewing this portal see the projects that help with this portal and might decide to join them. Hopefully several projects will help on this portal.
I personally think that this portal has a lot of potential and it would be a good compliment to a good featured topic. I will thus try to help regularly maintain this portal. I hope that everyone interested can agree on how to maintain this portal so it can one day be a featured portal to compliment the many related featured articles. — Pious7 Talk Contribs 19:07, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
All constructive comments are welcome. I have worked on this portal that was previously heavily under construction because it is on a featured topic and a featured topic deserves a featured portal. — Pious7 Talk Contribs 01:17, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Hey, pretty good looking so far, just a few small things:
Joe I 03:42, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
I have finished addressing all of the comments at its peer review. I think Portal:Solar System should be featured because I put hard work in it to ensure that it is well-designed, good-looking, and unique. It meets all of the featured portal critera as I went through the list.
This portal showcases the best articles on the subject. All the planets and dwarf planets combine with the Sun forming a featured topic. This is showcased in the "Article of the Month" section. Once Earth finishes its FAC, the rest of the queue will be complete. Currently it only goes up to Venus because Earth's introduction might be rewritten and there is still plenty of time before the portal page gets to Earth. Most featured pictures on the subject are included in the "Picture of the Week" section. All featured articles on the subject are included in "Major Topics" and bolded to draw attention to them. Contribution is encouraged by an organized box titled "What You Can Do," which (even with the title) encourages participation more than on the average portal.
The Solar System portal is is useful, attractive, ergonomic, and well-maintained. This portal covers a broad topic (the Solar System) and provides many links to enable people to go exactly where they want. It encourages people to participate in the many space-related WikiProjects, not just the Solar System one. A plethora of images are used, especially with links in the right column, to make an ordinarily dull page look more interesting. It is organized layout means that boxes with links are on the right and bottom while the changing content people would read and check regularly is on the left. This logical organizational scheme increases its usability by allowing people to read down only one column if they're looking for something specific.
This portal is well-maintained in that it will not run out of images anytime soon (and when it does, there are more out there and it can cycle back to old images as wel) and "Article of the Month" will never run out because there are so many articles on the topic. It would take over 7 years to just go through those in the "Major Topics" box. I am willing to check up on this portal periodically to ensure that it doesn't run out of content to feature and stays up-to-date.
In addition to all of the above, the Solar System portal's content is designed to point the viewer into other locations. It does this using almost every method available to a portal. In summary, this portal is designed to be a central point for people to go to if they're interested in learning about the Solar System. — Pious7 Talk Contribs 02:06, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
MichaelManaloLazo-Thur Oct 1, 2009 at 14:15 inside Isetann Cinerama Complex Shopping Centre in Quiapo,Manila,Metro Manila,Philippines. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.92.245.5 ( talk) 06:10, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Someone could update this portal? It's so ugly and out of date! The Portuguese model looks much better than this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.83.135.27 ( talk) 00:15, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
WikiProject Portals is back!
The project was rebooted and completely overhauled on April 17th, 2018. Its goals are to revitalize the entire portal system, make building and maintaining portals easier, support the ongoing improvement of portals and the editors dedicated to this, and design the portals of the future.
As of May 2nd, 2018, membership is at 60 editors, and growing. You are welcome to join us.
There are design initiatives for revitalizing the portals system as a whole, and for improving each component of portals. So far, 2 new dynamic components have been developed: Template:Transclude lead excerpt and Template:Transclude random excerpt.
Tools are provided for building and maintaining portals, including automated portals that update themselves in various ways.
And, if you are bored and would like something to occupy your mind, we have a wonderful task list.
From your friendly neighborhood Portals WikiProject. Hope to see you there. Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 07:45, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
This portal was recently nominated for deletion, and the MFD was closed on 28 August 2019 as No Consensus. The following points were noted either by the Keep editors or by the closer:
Addressing those points within the next two months is a minimum for addressing the concerns raised in the MFD. If these points are not addressed in two months, this portal is likely to be nominated for deletion again.
If there is really a desire to demonstrate that portals in general can be improved, here are a few suggestions for design improvement:
Robert McClenon ( talk) 18:55, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
threatof another MFD. Take it as an assessment of probability as near-certainty, rather than threat: multiple maintainers, actively maintaining ... or MFD again. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 00:04, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
Portal:Moon, Portal:Mars, and Portal:Jupiter have all been deleted at MFD.
I have converted all the links to each of them into links to Portal:Solar System. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 02:27, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
Hecato, would you like me to update the "Selected picture" box using new template {{ Portal pictures}}? It allows using POTDs as inputs. Demo with just four pictures, any number of pictures can be used: {{Portal:Solar System/box-header|Selected picture}} {{Portal pictures|function=slideShow|2007-04-28|2019-07-18|2018-07-14|2007-06-11|more=[[Portal:Solar System/Selected picture|More selected pictures]]}} {{Box-footer}} — andrybak ( talk) 23:23, 21 November 2020 (UTC)