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The Scottish Noblesse is a class of aristocracy in Scotland, including both those with peerage titles as well as those without. The concept of this distinct Scottish noble class was prominently advocated for by Sir Thomas Innes of Learney during his tenure as Carrick Pursuivant of Arms and later Lord Lyon King of Arms.

The concept of noblesse as opposed to "nobility" is old: in 1901 a Canadian heraldist Edward Marion Chadwick discussed the difference between the two in France: " pairie" is similar to English peerage, while noblesse consists of gentlemen commoners. "The King ... was the fountain of hereditary title, but not the fountain of noblesse", and noblesse can be obtained without any royal act. [1]

In 2008, the 'noblesse' clause was discreetly removed from newly issued letters patent. [2] Consequently, the creation of new nobles becomes impossible. Nevertheless, armigers who were already granted coats of arms prior to the deadline may retain the style (the patents used to state that "he and his successors in the same are, amongst all Nobles and in all Places of Honour, to be taken, numbered, accounted and received as Nobles in the Noblesse of Scotland" [3]).

Background

In the early 20th century, Innes of Learney put forth the belief that individuals granted arms by the Court of the Lord Lyon in Scotland effectively become 'Nobles in the Noblesse of Scotland'. [4] This form of hereditary nobility is mostly based on Innes' interpretation of historical precedents and practices:

A patent of arms is − and I say this with full official weight − a Diploma of Nobility

— Thomas Innes of Learney, Scots Heraldry [5]

Innes drew on historical English heraldic traditions, arguing that just as other officers of the Crown had been delegated the power to ennoble individuals in the past, the Lord Lyon should also hold the authority to do so through the granting of coat of arms. [6] [7] [8] However, Innes' position was complicated by the fact that he simultaneously opposed the direct application of English heraldic law and practice to the Scottish context.

The soundness of the basis for Innes' belief that Scottish armigers, by virtue of being granted arms, automatically attain a status of hereditary nobility has been a subject of uncertainty and debate among historians and heraldic scholars. Innes relied heavily on documenting historical English precedents to support his claims despite the fact that he sought to differentiate the Scottish heraldic system from that of England. [9]

See also

References

  1. ^ Chadwick 1901, p. 306, Note 1.
  2. ^ "As he giveth, so shall he take away". The Cheshire Heraldry Web Journal (Blog). 18 July 2008. Archived from the original on 2 April 2019. Retrieved 2 September 2021.
  3. ^ Cox 1998, Note 33.
  4. ^ Edmondson, Complete Body of Heraldry, p. 154
  5. ^ Innes of Learney 1971, p. 20.
  6. ^ Innes of Learney, T. (1940), The Nature of Armorial Bearings, Notes and Queries, 178, 363.
  7. ^ Innes of Learney, T. (1939) The Armorial House or Family and the Theory of Armorial Quartering in England, Notes and Queries, 177, 164.
  8. ^ Innes of Learney, T. (1939) The Armorial House or Family and the Theory of Armorial Quartering in England, Notes and Queries, 177, 186.
  9. ^ e.g. Innes of Learney, T. (1950), Armorial Tailzies in Scotland, Notes and Queries, 178, 256-257.

Sources


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(Redirected from Noblesse)

The Scottish Noblesse is a class of aristocracy in Scotland, including both those with peerage titles as well as those without. The concept of this distinct Scottish noble class was prominently advocated for by Sir Thomas Innes of Learney during his tenure as Carrick Pursuivant of Arms and later Lord Lyon King of Arms.

The concept of noblesse as opposed to "nobility" is old: in 1901 a Canadian heraldist Edward Marion Chadwick discussed the difference between the two in France: " pairie" is similar to English peerage, while noblesse consists of gentlemen commoners. "The King ... was the fountain of hereditary title, but not the fountain of noblesse", and noblesse can be obtained without any royal act. [1]

In 2008, the 'noblesse' clause was discreetly removed from newly issued letters patent. [2] Consequently, the creation of new nobles becomes impossible. Nevertheless, armigers who were already granted coats of arms prior to the deadline may retain the style (the patents used to state that "he and his successors in the same are, amongst all Nobles and in all Places of Honour, to be taken, numbered, accounted and received as Nobles in the Noblesse of Scotland" [3]).

Background

In the early 20th century, Innes of Learney put forth the belief that individuals granted arms by the Court of the Lord Lyon in Scotland effectively become 'Nobles in the Noblesse of Scotland'. [4] This form of hereditary nobility is mostly based on Innes' interpretation of historical precedents and practices:

A patent of arms is − and I say this with full official weight − a Diploma of Nobility

— Thomas Innes of Learney, Scots Heraldry [5]

Innes drew on historical English heraldic traditions, arguing that just as other officers of the Crown had been delegated the power to ennoble individuals in the past, the Lord Lyon should also hold the authority to do so through the granting of coat of arms. [6] [7] [8] However, Innes' position was complicated by the fact that he simultaneously opposed the direct application of English heraldic law and practice to the Scottish context.

The soundness of the basis for Innes' belief that Scottish armigers, by virtue of being granted arms, automatically attain a status of hereditary nobility has been a subject of uncertainty and debate among historians and heraldic scholars. Innes relied heavily on documenting historical English precedents to support his claims despite the fact that he sought to differentiate the Scottish heraldic system from that of England. [9]

See also

References

  1. ^ Chadwick 1901, p. 306, Note 1.
  2. ^ "As he giveth, so shall he take away". The Cheshire Heraldry Web Journal (Blog). 18 July 2008. Archived from the original on 2 April 2019. Retrieved 2 September 2021.
  3. ^ Cox 1998, Note 33.
  4. ^ Edmondson, Complete Body of Heraldry, p. 154
  5. ^ Innes of Learney 1971, p. 20.
  6. ^ Innes of Learney, T. (1940), The Nature of Armorial Bearings, Notes and Queries, 178, 363.
  7. ^ Innes of Learney, T. (1939) The Armorial House or Family and the Theory of Armorial Quartering in England, Notes and Queries, 177, 164.
  8. ^ Innes of Learney, T. (1939) The Armorial House or Family and the Theory of Armorial Quartering in England, Notes and Queries, 177, 186.
  9. ^ e.g. Innes of Learney, T. (1950), Armorial Tailzies in Scotland, Notes and Queries, 178, 256-257.

Sources



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