I would like to put here the map, differentiating the Israeli-controlled vs. Palestinian controlled territories. It is pointless to put blank West Bank and Gaza Strip areas, which are relevant pre-1967 under Egypt and Jordan. Greyshark09 ( talk) 14:37, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
- The map is to show the region of the Palestinian territories, not the Palestinian Authority. so I object to your change. --
Supreme Deliciousness (
talk)
15:12, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
- "Palestinian-controlled territories" is usually identical to "Palestinian territories, Occupied" and is referring to Palestinian Authority per all international organizations. "Palestinian territories" however can refer also to several other areas; and it is not a simplistic "country".
Greyshark09 (
talk)
16:44, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
- Palestinian territories is the Gaza Strip and the entire West Bank. -- Supreme Deliciousness ( talk) 14:24, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
- "Palestinian-controlled territories" is usually identical to "Palestinian territories, Occupied" and is referring to Palestinian Authority per all international organizations. "Palestinian territories" however can refer also to several other areas; and it is not a simplistic "country".
Greyshark09 (
talk)
16:44, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
Palestinian territories fell into disuse through the last year with official rename of the Palestinian Authority (ie. Palestinian Territories, Occupied) to "State of Palestine". We hence need to rename this template accordingly. GreyShark ( dibra) 10:44, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
- I don't think so. The boundaries of the Palestinian territories is still the same. --
Supreme Deliciousness (
talk)
12:23, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
- Maybe, but the international community stopped using the concept "Palestinian territories" (UN, ISO, international conventions etc.).
GreyShark (
dibra)
13:26, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
- No they didn't: UN: http://www.ochaopt.org/documents/ochaopt_cap_2013_full_document_english.pdf , Amnesty: http://www.amnesty.org/en/region/israel-and-occupied-palestinian-territories/report-2013 , The Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/world/palestinian-territories -- Supreme Deliciousness ( talk) 13:35, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
- Maybe, but the international community stopped using the concept "Palestinian territories" (UN, ISO, international conventions etc.).
GreyShark (
dibra)
13:26, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
- The UN and most international bodies have indeed stopped using the term Palestinian territories following their recognition of Palestine as a state at the end of 2012. They do use oPt (or OPT) and Palestine as legitimate alternatives. See State of Palestine article, all explained there. I agree that the module strictly ought to be renamed especially since it anyway returns the SoP map while the Palestine module redirects to this one. I don't really know why it was done this way, some programmatic fudge, I'm guessing. Selfstudier ( talk) 16:45, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
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I would like to put here the map, differentiating the Israeli-controlled vs. Palestinian controlled territories. It is pointless to put blank West Bank and Gaza Strip areas, which are relevant pre-1967 under Egypt and Jordan. Greyshark09 ( talk) 14:37, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
- The map is to show the region of the Palestinian territories, not the Palestinian Authority. so I object to your change. --
Supreme Deliciousness (
talk)
15:12, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
- "Palestinian-controlled territories" is usually identical to "Palestinian territories, Occupied" and is referring to Palestinian Authority per all international organizations. "Palestinian territories" however can refer also to several other areas; and it is not a simplistic "country".
Greyshark09 (
talk)
16:44, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
- Palestinian territories is the Gaza Strip and the entire West Bank. -- Supreme Deliciousness ( talk) 14:24, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
- "Palestinian-controlled territories" is usually identical to "Palestinian territories, Occupied" and is referring to Palestinian Authority per all international organizations. "Palestinian territories" however can refer also to several other areas; and it is not a simplistic "country".
Greyshark09 (
talk)
16:44, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
Palestinian territories fell into disuse through the last year with official rename of the Palestinian Authority (ie. Palestinian Territories, Occupied) to "State of Palestine". We hence need to rename this template accordingly. GreyShark ( dibra) 10:44, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
- I don't think so. The boundaries of the Palestinian territories is still the same. --
Supreme Deliciousness (
talk)
12:23, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
- Maybe, but the international community stopped using the concept "Palestinian territories" (UN, ISO, international conventions etc.).
GreyShark (
dibra)
13:26, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
- No they didn't: UN: http://www.ochaopt.org/documents/ochaopt_cap_2013_full_document_english.pdf , Amnesty: http://www.amnesty.org/en/region/israel-and-occupied-palestinian-territories/report-2013 , The Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/world/palestinian-territories -- Supreme Deliciousness ( talk) 13:35, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
- Maybe, but the international community stopped using the concept "Palestinian territories" (UN, ISO, international conventions etc.).
GreyShark (
dibra)
13:26, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
- The UN and most international bodies have indeed stopped using the term Palestinian territories following their recognition of Palestine as a state at the end of 2012. They do use oPt (or OPT) and Palestine as legitimate alternatives. See State of Palestine article, all explained there. I agree that the module strictly ought to be renamed especially since it anyway returns the SoP map while the Palestine module redirects to this one. I don't really know why it was done this way, some programmatic fudge, I'm guessing. Selfstudier ( talk) 16:45, 3 January 2021 (UTC)