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Is there a code where you can merge 2 rows plus the add of "Wing or Terminal" column in the Airport-dest-list template? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryn910 ( talk • contribs) 08:39, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
I've changed the template to allow the use of numbered (unnamed) parameters. With named parameters, adding an airline at a later time might required to change the numbers on all existing parameters. — 3247 ( talk) 21:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
I believe that centering the table would make it look better. pikdig ( talk) 08:22, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello! Anybody can explain me better, how can I create a template for Alicante Airport? I like this format, but I don't understand the steps to create a new template.
My apologyze with my english. Thanks! -- Dr RdL ( talk) 14:50, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
{{airport-dest-list | ACME Air | Ebonia [begins 17 May] | Foofly | Munich }}
Can anyone help with increasing the number of rows? I tried - and made quite the mess! Thanks. Jasepl ( talk) 10:09, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
Just wondering can we make this list collapsible. It looks very huge list in some case like say Mumbai Airport, New York etc. KuwarOnline Talk 14:00, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
...have a layout that causes a minor difficulty in using this template.
Basically the issue is that the terminals are designed such that ticketing, check-in, baggage claim take place in various buildings accessible by roads/ground transportation (called "terminals" at ATL) while the gates for those waiting for flights take place in a distinct group of buildings at which aircraft park (called "concourses" at ATL).
Airlines are assigned gates at one or more "concourses", and are assigned check-in counters and baggage claim facilities at one or more "terminals". However, unlike most airports these assignments are independent in that the concourse an airline is assigned is not necessarily related to the terminal they are assigned.
The template is only designed to have three columns, which works for most airports.
Example - JFK airport
Airline Destinations Terminal American ... 8 British Airways ... 7 Delta ... 2, 3, 4 Korean Air ... 1 United ... 7 etc.
The solution I attempted on the ATL page is to combine both the Terminal assignment and the Concourse assignment into the third column, like this:
Airline Destinations Terminal/Concourse American ... North/T British Airways ... North/E Delta ... South/T, A, B, C, D, E Korean Air ... North/E United ... North/T, D etc.
which was reverted.
Since many airports are designed with either the ATL layout or other layouts that have separate "Terminals" and "Concourses"/"Airsides" (such as TPA/MCO), shouldn't the template or the WikiProject have a way to address this?
My suggestions - If this is a problem for many airports the template should allow a fourth column. If not, then for the airports with separate terminal and concourse assignments, the main table should have only the airlines and destinations, and another table should have the terminals and concourses like this:
Airline Destinations Delta ... United ... etc.
Airline Terminal Concourse Delta South T, A, B, C, D, E United North T, D
-- 96.32.181.73 ( talk) 21:35, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Would it not be more useful to show the airlines for each destination? After all I do not usually want to fly a particular airline and then choose a destination: I usually want to fly somewhere and then I choose the airline. Anyone disagree and if so why? Jzlcdh ( talk) 20:19, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
I had a look at the guideline referred to above and it is a guideline against having too much detail for tourists. However my argument would be that (unless you are in the airport or airline business) where one can fly to direct from a particular airport is a more notable feature of the airport than which airlines fly from it. But maybe there is some way of having the template (or a new template) where the destinations could be sorted as well as the airlines. Thus making the information for large airports more readable both for those interested in airlines and those interested in destinations. Presumably one could then also incorporate the collapsibility suggested in another post above. But I am not enough of a Wikipedia expert to know how to do that. Jzlcdh ( talk) 15:00, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Airline | Destination |
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Island Air | Honolulu |
Island Air | Kahului |
Island Air | Kapalua |
Island Air | Lanai |
Mokulele Airlines | Honolulu |
Mokulele Airlines | Kahului |
Pacific Wings | Honolulu |
Pacific Wings | Kalaupapa |
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Please add the year in the start dates ie, instead of Ebonia [begins 17 May], it should be Ebonia [begins 17 May, 2012]. This in accordance with a consensus at the project's talk page and WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT also says so. Thanks. — Abhishek Talk 13:11, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airports#Inclusion of Template:Airport destination list in articles. --
Trevj (
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15:39, 15 February 2012 (UTC)|Inclusion of {{Airport destination list}} in articles}}
As can be seen at Berlevåg Airport there are instances where having the option to sort the list is clearly redundant. __ meco ( talk) 09:45, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
When I try to add a citation needed tag to the destination table at Logan Airport, I get an expansion depth exceeded error, suggesting that this table is right at the expansion limit. I don't understand the issues involved (and the essay WP:UNNEST suggests that I'm not alone!), but could someone who is involved with this template find a way to reduce the number of levels involved? The inability to add a citation needed tag is undesirable, to say the least. Thanks!
For an example of the problem, see this version of the Logan Airport article under KLM. —Alex ( ASHill | talk | contribs) 23:11, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
I think that an option for a fourth column should be added to the list. This could be useful in articles for airports whose airlines have separate locations for terminals and concourses/gate locations. Many airport articles like this put all the information in one column, which can make readability very confusing. Examples of articles that could benefit from this are McCarran International Airport, Orlando International Airport, O'Hare International Airport. – Dream out loud ( talk) 14:29, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
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Would it be possible to add another (4th) optional column (in addition to 3rdcoltitle) to indicate the Alliance (e.g. Star Alliance, SkyTeam, etc)?
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Is it possible to add an unsortable column to the table? We are having discussions at WT:AIRPORTS about referencing issues, and this would help. Currently it is only possible to add a sortable column, which is not useful for references. Thanks. — Sunnya343✈ ( háblame • my work) 02:30, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
If you wonder about if and how to document this, there is a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airports#COVID-19-related Schedule Suspensions/Changes. It seems to say that such suspensions should not be mentioned. If an airline reports they cancel a route more permanently, then the destination should be removed.-- BIL ( talk) 08:28, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
Unless I'm using it wrong, this template appears to makes it much harder (impossible unless you know the cite code off by heart) to add references to destinations in the visual editor. What advantages does this template have over just using a normal table? I think it's important that pages work with the visual editor where possible, especially as people are frequently reverted for not properly sourcing additions to airport pages. Thanks NemesisAT ( talk) 15:04, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Airport destination list has been listed at Templates for discussion ( nomination), but was protected so could not be tagged. Please add:
{{subst:template for discussion|help=off|type=inline}}
to the top of the page to complete the nomination. Thank you. NemesisAT ( talk) 19:26, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
Per WP:ACCESSIBILITY, the smaller font size used in this serves no good purpose and may hinder readability by those with visual impairment. Thanks in advance. 10mmsocket ( talk) 23:17, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
We need to address some common errors in airport destination lists.
First, please spell resumes correctly.
Second, please stop putting resumes inserted of begins when the reference article says “new route beginning.” For example in “ Denver International Airport” Wikipedia article says in the Fronter section (shown below) that Harrisburg International Airport is resuming but, in the article “Frontier Airlines Announces 27 Nonstop Routes, 2 New International Destinations” by Frontier it says “Ultra-low fare carrier Frontier Airlines (NASDAQ: ULCC) today announced a major expansion of service, adding 27 nonstop routes, including new destinations Guadalajara and Monterrey, Mexico. The airline is also significantly growing its service from Philadelphia and Raleigh-Durham. To celebrate, Frontier is offering fares as low as $29.*”
The third and final thing is that some flights that are seasonal are shown as a daily flight. For example In “ Oakland International Airport” Wikipedia article says that in the Hawaiian Airlines section (shown below) that Kona International Airport is a daily flight but, in the article “Hawaiian Airlines To Add Kona-Oakland Route In June” By Aaron Karp it says “The carrier will launch daily flights between Kona (KOA) and Oakland (OAK) from June 15. The service will be seasonal, operating through Sept. 6.”
Airlines | Destinations | Refs |
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Hawaiian Airlines | Honolulu, Kahului, Kailua–Kona (begins June 15, 2022), [5] Lihue | [6] |
Harrisyt12 ( talk) 23:39, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
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Is there a code where you can merge 2 rows plus the add of "Wing or Terminal" column in the Airport-dest-list template? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryn910 ( talk • contribs) 08:39, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
I've changed the template to allow the use of numbered (unnamed) parameters. With named parameters, adding an airline at a later time might required to change the numbers on all existing parameters. — 3247 ( talk) 21:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
I believe that centering the table would make it look better. pikdig ( talk) 08:22, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello! Anybody can explain me better, how can I create a template for Alicante Airport? I like this format, but I don't understand the steps to create a new template.
My apologyze with my english. Thanks! -- Dr RdL ( talk) 14:50, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
{{airport-dest-list | ACME Air | Ebonia [begins 17 May] | Foofly | Munich }}
Can anyone help with increasing the number of rows? I tried - and made quite the mess! Thanks. Jasepl ( talk) 10:09, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
Just wondering can we make this list collapsible. It looks very huge list in some case like say Mumbai Airport, New York etc. KuwarOnline Talk 14:00, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
...have a layout that causes a minor difficulty in using this template.
Basically the issue is that the terminals are designed such that ticketing, check-in, baggage claim take place in various buildings accessible by roads/ground transportation (called "terminals" at ATL) while the gates for those waiting for flights take place in a distinct group of buildings at which aircraft park (called "concourses" at ATL).
Airlines are assigned gates at one or more "concourses", and are assigned check-in counters and baggage claim facilities at one or more "terminals". However, unlike most airports these assignments are independent in that the concourse an airline is assigned is not necessarily related to the terminal they are assigned.
The template is only designed to have three columns, which works for most airports.
Example - JFK airport
Airline Destinations Terminal American ... 8 British Airways ... 7 Delta ... 2, 3, 4 Korean Air ... 1 United ... 7 etc.
The solution I attempted on the ATL page is to combine both the Terminal assignment and the Concourse assignment into the third column, like this:
Airline Destinations Terminal/Concourse American ... North/T British Airways ... North/E Delta ... South/T, A, B, C, D, E Korean Air ... North/E United ... North/T, D etc.
which was reverted.
Since many airports are designed with either the ATL layout or other layouts that have separate "Terminals" and "Concourses"/"Airsides" (such as TPA/MCO), shouldn't the template or the WikiProject have a way to address this?
My suggestions - If this is a problem for many airports the template should allow a fourth column. If not, then for the airports with separate terminal and concourse assignments, the main table should have only the airlines and destinations, and another table should have the terminals and concourses like this:
Airline Destinations Delta ... United ... etc.
Airline Terminal Concourse Delta South T, A, B, C, D, E United North T, D
-- 96.32.181.73 ( talk) 21:35, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Would it not be more useful to show the airlines for each destination? After all I do not usually want to fly a particular airline and then choose a destination: I usually want to fly somewhere and then I choose the airline. Anyone disagree and if so why? Jzlcdh ( talk) 20:19, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
I had a look at the guideline referred to above and it is a guideline against having too much detail for tourists. However my argument would be that (unless you are in the airport or airline business) where one can fly to direct from a particular airport is a more notable feature of the airport than which airlines fly from it. But maybe there is some way of having the template (or a new template) where the destinations could be sorted as well as the airlines. Thus making the information for large airports more readable both for those interested in airlines and those interested in destinations. Presumably one could then also incorporate the collapsibility suggested in another post above. But I am not enough of a Wikipedia expert to know how to do that. Jzlcdh ( talk) 15:00, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Airline | Destination |
---|---|
Island Air | Honolulu |
Island Air | Kahului |
Island Air | Kapalua |
Island Air | Lanai |
Mokulele Airlines | Honolulu |
Mokulele Airlines | Kahului |
Pacific Wings | Honolulu |
Pacific Wings | Kalaupapa |
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edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Please add the year in the start dates ie, instead of Ebonia [begins 17 May], it should be Ebonia [begins 17 May, 2012]. This in accordance with a consensus at the project's talk page and WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT also says so. Thanks. — Abhishek Talk 13:11, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airports#Inclusion of Template:Airport destination list in articles. --
Trevj (
talk)
15:39, 15 February 2012 (UTC)|Inclusion of {{Airport destination list}} in articles}}
As can be seen at Berlevåg Airport there are instances where having the option to sort the list is clearly redundant. __ meco ( talk) 09:45, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
When I try to add a citation needed tag to the destination table at Logan Airport, I get an expansion depth exceeded error, suggesting that this table is right at the expansion limit. I don't understand the issues involved (and the essay WP:UNNEST suggests that I'm not alone!), but could someone who is involved with this template find a way to reduce the number of levels involved? The inability to add a citation needed tag is undesirable, to say the least. Thanks!
For an example of the problem, see this version of the Logan Airport article under KLM. —Alex ( ASHill | talk | contribs) 23:11, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
I think that an option for a fourth column should be added to the list. This could be useful in articles for airports whose airlines have separate locations for terminals and concourses/gate locations. Many airport articles like this put all the information in one column, which can make readability very confusing. Examples of articles that could benefit from this are McCarran International Airport, Orlando International Airport, O'Hare International Airport. – Dream out loud ( talk) 14:29, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
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Would it be possible to add another (4th) optional column (in addition to 3rdcoltitle) to indicate the Alliance (e.g. Star Alliance, SkyTeam, etc)?
MoshePupkin (
talk)
11:55, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
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edit request to
Module:Airport destination list has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Is it possible to add an unsortable column to the table? We are having discussions at WT:AIRPORTS about referencing issues, and this would help. Currently it is only possible to add a sortable column, which is not useful for references. Thanks. — Sunnya343✈ ( háblame • my work) 02:30, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
If you wonder about if and how to document this, there is a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airports#COVID-19-related Schedule Suspensions/Changes. It seems to say that such suspensions should not be mentioned. If an airline reports they cancel a route more permanently, then the destination should be removed.-- BIL ( talk) 08:28, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
Unless I'm using it wrong, this template appears to makes it much harder (impossible unless you know the cite code off by heart) to add references to destinations in the visual editor. What advantages does this template have over just using a normal table? I think it's important that pages work with the visual editor where possible, especially as people are frequently reverted for not properly sourcing additions to airport pages. Thanks NemesisAT ( talk) 15:04, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
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edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Template:Airport destination list has been listed at Templates for discussion ( nomination), but was protected so could not be tagged. Please add:
{{subst:template for discussion|help=off|type=inline}}
to the top of the page to complete the nomination. Thank you. NemesisAT ( talk) 19:26, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
Per WP:ACCESSIBILITY, the smaller font size used in this serves no good purpose and may hinder readability by those with visual impairment. Thanks in advance. 10mmsocket ( talk) 23:17, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
We need to address some common errors in airport destination lists.
First, please spell resumes correctly.
Second, please stop putting resumes inserted of begins when the reference article says “new route beginning.” For example in “ Denver International Airport” Wikipedia article says in the Fronter section (shown below) that Harrisburg International Airport is resuming but, in the article “Frontier Airlines Announces 27 Nonstop Routes, 2 New International Destinations” by Frontier it says “Ultra-low fare carrier Frontier Airlines (NASDAQ: ULCC) today announced a major expansion of service, adding 27 nonstop routes, including new destinations Guadalajara and Monterrey, Mexico. The airline is also significantly growing its service from Philadelphia and Raleigh-Durham. To celebrate, Frontier is offering fares as low as $29.*”
The third and final thing is that some flights that are seasonal are shown as a daily flight. For example In “ Oakland International Airport” Wikipedia article says that in the Hawaiian Airlines section (shown below) that Kona International Airport is a daily flight but, in the article “Hawaiian Airlines To Add Kona-Oakland Route In June” By Aaron Karp it says “The carrier will launch daily flights between Kona (KOA) and Oakland (OAK) from June 15. The service will be seasonal, operating through Sept. 6.”
Airlines | Destinations | Refs |
---|---|---|
Hawaiian Airlines | Honolulu, Kahului, Kailua–Kona (begins June 15, 2022), [5] Lihue | [6] |
Harrisyt12 ( talk) 23:39, 24 March 2022 (UTC)