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The pronunciation guide for Norwegian and Swedish used to be in a joint table. Since this was getting overly complicated and unworkable in the long run, the two were split by me. Previous discussion can be found at Help talk:IPA for Swedish and Norwegian.

Peter Isotalo 20:39, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Nice work, Peter. — Ƶ§œš¹ [lɛts b̥iː pʰəˈlaɪˀt] 19:12, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Kind, shoes and sheep

I'm a native speaker of Norwegian and I've never encountered the word "kind" before. Aren't there better words to better exemplify this sound, or if there aren't, perhaps another footnote is in order? Also, doesn't it conflict with the other "sh" sound listed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.215.28.37 ( talk) 22:19, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

I suspect that it's just the spelling that is a bit archaic (riksmål perhaps), and that the word is kinn. It's difficult to say, because it's given as an example for voiceless alveolo-palatal sibilant (whatever that means), and the Norwegian example there is sjel. Kinn, or even kind, would not be pronounced anything like sjel. The Swedish example on that page, kjol, does however fit with kinn. Beyond that, I think it's been discussed earlier that English has nothing remotely close to what Norwegians call kj-lyd. Ters ( talk) 07:46, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Lead and lead

The nearest English equivalent for "iː" is given as "lead", but that could be pronounced two very different ways in English! 2602:306:CD0E:D410:A87B:36CD:8863:5F55 ( talk) 16:32, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The pronunciation guide for Norwegian and Swedish used to be in a joint table. Since this was getting overly complicated and unworkable in the long run, the two were split by me. Previous discussion can be found at Help talk:IPA for Swedish and Norwegian.

Peter Isotalo 20:39, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Nice work, Peter. — Ƶ§œš¹ [lɛts b̥iː pʰəˈlaɪˀt] 19:12, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Kind, shoes and sheep

I'm a native speaker of Norwegian and I've never encountered the word "kind" before. Aren't there better words to better exemplify this sound, or if there aren't, perhaps another footnote is in order? Also, doesn't it conflict with the other "sh" sound listed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.215.28.37 ( talk) 22:19, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

I suspect that it's just the spelling that is a bit archaic (riksmål perhaps), and that the word is kinn. It's difficult to say, because it's given as an example for voiceless alveolo-palatal sibilant (whatever that means), and the Norwegian example there is sjel. Kinn, or even kind, would not be pronounced anything like sjel. The Swedish example on that page, kjol, does however fit with kinn. Beyond that, I think it's been discussed earlier that English has nothing remotely close to what Norwegians call kj-lyd. Ters ( talk) 07:46, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Lead and lead

The nearest English equivalent for "iː" is given as "lead", but that could be pronounced two very different ways in English! 2602:306:CD0E:D410:A87B:36CD:8863:5F55 ( talk) 16:32, 7 January 2016 (UTC)


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